Faded Spade 2.0 (1 Viewer)

Old State said:
Interesting observations but I doubt price has anything to do with the stiffness or flatness. Kem and Copags are probably the 1st and 2nd most flexible cards made. If you try several other manufacturers offering you may have a better perspective on just how stiff these cards are. They are in a league of their own.

If Kems and Copags were poblano and Anaheim peppers, FS’s would be a Carolina reaper
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I think you've misread my intent. I was saying that one sacrafices the feel of Kems in a trade off for the durability and stability of the the FS2.0.
 
Carlavatky said:
I think you've misread my intent. I was saying that one sacrafices the feel of Kems in a trade off for the durability and stability of the the FS2.0.
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I gotcha. I’m just not sure a stiff card equates to durability. Actually I don’t think one has anything to do with the other. Remember, Kems are a proven commodity in the casino industry and have been used for decades.

We have no idea how they will hold up to fading, chipping, or warping over time. I have had many setups that are very flexible and have held up to hundreds of hours of play. Now I have so many setups that none of them will probably ever get that kind of playtime.
 
I just ordered three set-ups of the Faded Spade four-color decks, to use in my home game. I think this should be the industry standard—makes so much sense from a usability standpoint. As far as I can tell, the red/black convention is strictly a relic of the days when each color had to be printed separately.
 
Put them in play at my usual game this evening. They were not very well recieved. Other than the graphics I think the highest compliment was a referance being "slicker than holding a fish". I thought they were also difficult to restack from the muck.
 
Carlavatky said:
Put them in play at my usual game this evening. They were not very well recieved. Other than the graphics I think the highest compliment was a referance being "slicker than holding a fish". I thought they were also difficult to restack from the muck.
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Re-stacking issues are due to the thickness of the cards, I also found that difficult. They are so thick that they do not easily slide above/below each other when you try to mash them together.
 
I think thier best feature, being extremely flat, is also something that contributed to them being difficult to gather. There are no gaps to allow them to get under and over each other.
 
A guy brought some v2 to a friend’s game last week. The difficulty in quickly gathering the muck (i.e., due to the card thickness causing card edges to collide and not slide smoothly into a stack) resulted in them being thrown away at the end of the night. Tossing them was definitely the right decision, and I would recommend against buying them due to this issue. I agree they are a large improvement over the v1, but they are still significantly inferior to many other readily available card options.
 
I found them GREATLY improved from the initial version. I actually enjoy the thickness. Here's the thing: Something in the way I shuffle causes little half moons to form on all my decks. I use mostly Copags and Da Vincis, and after 3-4 uses, I toss them. The FS cards, after three games, have almost NONE of these indentations. For that reason alone, I'm in.

My players actually complimented them. But this isn't a self-dealt game. I'm the dealer. I can see how that might be noticeable for pass-the-deal games, but it's a non-issue for mine.
 
so i ended up buying both 1,0 and 2.0 Poker becasue i liked the look
1st impressions 1.0 thin more paper feel colors are not bright but cool to see different style
dealing with the 1.0 is easy feel is like i said thin
2.0 feels thicker has little texture on the cards shuffle easy and are kind of slippery colors are brighter overall 2.0 are major upgrade in terms of feel thickness and color i used promo code so got 4 decks for around $40
im big fan of kem and copag and for price copag are better imo
i would like to try other brands just not sure
 
JB315 said:
for price copag are better imo
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This is what I’ve been wondering. I’ve been on the fence about getting Faded Spade. I’ve only used Copag at my game, I like them and have been using 2 setups forever but the ink has been wearing off now. Just got a setup of Desjgns to try out now though.
 
honkydevil said:
This is what I’ve been wondering. I’ve been on the fence about getting Faded Spade. I’ve only used Copag at my game, I like them and have been using 2 setups forever but the ink has been wearing off now. Just got a setup of Desjgns to try out now though.
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as i said i love the fresh look as im so used to seeing same style ill trade ya a new deck of the 1.0 for new deck of the desjgns ive wanted to try out other brands
 
I am still steamed about the three set-ups of Faded Spade four-color decks I ordered. I should have started with just one.

The ugly surprise was that in anything but bright, cold, neon light, the blue and green backs are very difficult to tell apart. FS’s response was “we’ll keep that in mind for the next version”—no offer of a refund. Their site did not show the backs of the cards, unlike other set-ups, so I wonder if they knew about the issue and are just trying to unload their existing stock before making a correction.

It’s a really stupid and easily avoidable design mistake on their part.

And it’s a shame, because the faces and overall quality I think are actually quite good. (They are stiffer than Copags, but then what isn’t?)

The only way I’d use these would be with the second deck at the same table being of another brand, or in a game which only uses one deck (bleh).

If anybody wants these at 40% of list price plus shipping, send me a message.
 
Taghkanic said:
I am still steamed about the three set-ups of Faded Spade four-color decks I ordered. I should have started with just one.

The ugly surprise was that in anything but bright, cold, neon light, the blue and green backs are very difficult to tell apart. FS’s response was “we’ll keep her in mind for the next version—no offer of a refund.

It’s a shame, because the faces and overall quality I think are actually quite good. (They are stiffer than Copags, but then what isn’t?)

The only way I’d use these would be with the second deck at the same table being of another brand, or in a game which only uses one deck (bleh).

If anybody wants these at 40% of list price plus shipping, send me a message.
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I’ll try them.
 
Taghkanic said:
I am still steamed about the three set-ups of Faded Spade four-color decks I ordered. I should have started with just one.

The ugly surprise was that in anything but bright, cold, neon light, the blue and green backs are very difficult to tell apart. FS’s response was “we’ll keep that in mind for the next version”—no offer of a refund. Their site did not show the backs of the cards, unlike other set-ups, so I wonder if they knew about the issue and are just trying to unload their existing stock before making a correction.

It’s a really stupid and easily avoidable design mistake on their part.

And it’s a shame, because the faces and overall quality I think are actually quite good. (They are stiffer than Copags, but then what isn’t?)

The only way I’d use these would be with the second deck at the same table being of another brand, or in a game which only uses one deck (bleh).

If anybody wants these at 40% of list price plus shipping, send me a message.
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i messaged FS about the quailty of 1.0 thinking they would of said sorry try our 2.0 on us but nope got the same thing from them
 
Taghkanic said:
I am still steamed about the three set-ups of Faded Spade four-color decks I ordered. I should have started with just one.

The ugly surprise was that in anything but bright, cold, neon light, the blue and green backs are very difficult to tell apart. FS’s response was “we’ll keep that in mind for the next version”—no offer of a refund. Their site did not show the backs of the cards, unlike other set-ups, so I wonder if they knew about the issue and are just trying to unload their existing stock before making a correction.

It’s a really stupid and easily avoidable design mistake on their part.

And it’s a shame, because the faces and overall quality I think are actually quite good. (They are stiffer than Copags, but then what isn’t?)

The only way I’d use these would be with the second deck at the same table being of another brand, or in a game which only uses one deck (bleh).

If anybody wants these at 40% of list price plus shipping, send me a message.
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You should voice your concern on their social media pages as well.
 
Taghkanic said:
It’s a really stupid and easily avoidable design mistake on their part.
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I just get the vibe that this company doesn’t pay much attention to detail. They seem to be more focused or creating a brand name than a good deck of cards.

honkydevil said:
This is what I’ve been wondering. I’ve been on the fence about getting Faded Spade. I’ve only used Copag at my game, I like them and have been using 2 setups forever but the ink has been wearing off now. Just got a setup of Desjgns to try out now though.
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I rarely play with Copags anymore because I feel there are slightly better cards on the market. Faded Spades are not one of them. That said, Copags are more than serviceable and absolutely do not suck.
 
dmalhi1 said:
i recently acquired some da vinci decks and am absolutely in love with them.

https://www.amazon.com/Vinci-Italia...564450&sr=8-3&keywords=da+vinci+playing+cards
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ranger764 said:
Yeah, I ordered 2 setups of these not too long ago and the guys really liked them. A really good value at the price IMO
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Just be aware that Da Vinci cards are made by Modiano. If you haven't heard, Modiano screwed over Desjgn pretty good and therefore have been boycotted by most PCFers.
 
Watching a Super High Roller cash game using Faded Spades.

Lyle Berman: "These are hard, I don't like these cards."

Doyle: "Nobody does."

Ali: "Berman taking issue with the rigidity of the plastic, but in order to make it through a day's worth of Shufflemaster …."
 
Watching Live at the Bike on Friday night I noticed they had gone to the Faded Spade deck. The players commented that they were different but I don't recall complaining.

I have the 2.0 and put them into play and got mostly the same comments you guys are getting. Too hard to handle, slippery, difficult to shuffle. Back to the Kems for my last game over the weekend and nobody said a word about the cards, zero complaints. The cards in poker are like the referees in a sport - if they're not interfering with the game no one comments, which is a good thing. XD
 
I agree with the difficulty of gathering the cards quickly from a pile due to the thickness of the cards, but overall I enjoyed dealing and playing with them. Adding texture to the cards feels nice to the touch imo but initially made me double check what resolution the face cards were printed in due to the texture. I prefer the thick and stiffness of these over Kems, but i think that's a personal preference.

I have also used DaVincis and i have to say they were the biggest disappointment for me. the corners weren't cut the same so after a few shuffles the corners don't line up anymore causing the deck to "poke" at my hands when holding it.

Recently ordered some Desjgn cards and excited to see what they can bring to the table.
 
JRReynolds6181 said:
Watching Live at the Bike on Friday night I noticed they had gone to the Faded Spade deck. The players commented that they were different but I don't recall complaining.
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The LATB Twitch feed, last time I watched it, included a Faded Spade ad every couple minutes or so. Annoying.
 
I brought them out to mixed reviews last weekend.

Some players commented when dealing it felt like they were dealing two cards out. Some commented on the texture and feel of the cards stating they were easy and nice to hold. One player hated the face designs of the cards.
 

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