Does anyone else hate dealing? (2 Viewers)

[stratus51]

I despise it so much so that i'd rather go to a casino with house dealers and pay a fair bit to play with strangers than join a pub league where you take it in turns to deal. However playing with friends is a closer call. I think it's something to do with breaking my concentration.

 

[Mental Nomad]

I'm fine dealing, but hate dealing half the hands I play. I also do a lot of our shuffling. But it's fairly easy for me, being a former professional dealer.

In my game, we let anyone skip who isn't comfortable dealing. A few people never deal when sitting on an end. Just about everyone deals, even if they didn't, initially.

 

[derekdd23]

When I play with friends and we are drinking the only way the game actually moves is if I am dealing. I dont love it, but dont hate it either. I feel like its a necessary evil sometimes.

 

[slisk250]

I'll deal if I have to but I'm not fast. After 6 whiskeys forget about it. We have three guys that like to deal including a pro that went to school at UNLV. We use a dedicated dealer. Two of them sit across from each other in the normal dealer position and take turns. The four guys on either side are the shufflers. I'm fine with shuffling. This makes our games fast with many hands per hour. I'll hire dealers in Denver for the meet up.

 

[sleepypiggly]

Shuffletech? I've considered it as a poor man's Shufflemaster, but reviews are only so-so.

http://shuffletech.com/allproducts.aspx

 

[stratus51]

I'll deal if I have to but I'm not fast. After 6 whiskeys forget about it. We have three guys that like to deal including a pro that went to school at UNLV. We use a dedicated dealer. Two of them sit across from each other in the normal dealer position and take turns. The four guys on either side are the shufflers. I'm fine with shuffling. This makes our games fast with many hands per hour. I'll hire dealers in Denver for the meet up.

I could still deal easily after half a bottle of whisky. I should be embarrassed by that fact! :

 

[slisk250]

You Brits have it in your blood. Half a bottle and I'm on my way to nighty night.

 

[stratus51]

You Brits have it in your blood. Half a bottle and I'm on my way to nighty night.

Yea and the worst are our soldiers.... don't mess with a drunk British soldier... I can put away 3/4 of a bottle of spirits but i rarely do that.... always reminded of my talented uncle dying an alcoholic alone on the sofa of his apartment after splitting from his long time partner. He was 46 and drinking 2+ bottles a day.

 

[Mental Nomad]

Shuffletech? I've considered it as a poor man's Shufflemaster, but reviews are only so-so.

Everyone I know of who has tried a cheap one (under $250) has been unhappy. Seem to spend more time unjamming than dealing, take space from the table, and make noise.

Have used Shufflemasters in the casinos, whole different story.

For all I know, the people complaining about home Shuffletechs are using the wrong cards or not changing them out often enough. Nasty old cards are harder to handle, good machine or bad.

 

[stratus51]

45-90 seconds per shuffle! that's too long surely.

 

[MikesDad]

No problem shuffling/dealing. Only one occasional player doesn't like to deal from the end of the table, so he sits in the middle
Custom cloths from T Chan make sliding the cards from one end to the other pretty easy

 

[Forest@Farmington]

No problem shuffling or dealing. Good cards good cloth make the dealing experience better also.

 

[manamongkids]

my friend hates shuffling/dealing when playing in home games so much that he offers me .25c for each deal I do for him. I think hes embarassed cuz he stinks at it, I told him I would teach him and he refuses to let me help him

 

[stratus51]

my friend hates shuffling/dealing when playing in home games so much that he offers me .25c for each deal I do for him. I think hes embarassed cuz he stinks at it, I told him I would teach him and he refuses to let me help him

That's not a bad idea... i can do it no problem and I shuffle well. Struggle sometimes when it's split pots but that's just my slow dyscalculic brain.

 

[stocky]

my friend hates shuffling/dealing when playing in home games so much that he offers me .25c for each deal I do for him. I think hes embarassed cuz he stinks at it, I told him I would teach him and he refuses to let me help him

During cash games we charge a $1 to deal.

Tournaments we have a dedicated dealer. I'll usually put my hand up to do it. It can get annoying sometimes but I'd rather deal and make sure the game is moving, than have one of the others deal and need to constantly remind them to burn and turn etc. because they're busy watching TV or talking.

 

[stratus51]

During cash games we charge a $1 to deal.

Are you talking home games? When i was in the Conrad Jupiter in the Gold Coast they did this. The chips were shitty apart from the white clay $1 chips that everyone used to pay the dealer for each hand... I'd never played in a casino that did this and haven't since. It was a separate payment system, you give them the $1 to play the hand and they were collected separately pre flop.

I bought 10 back to the UK with me....





Does anyone else love the smell of Clay chips?

 

[12thMan]

Does anyone else love the smell of Clay chips?

Derail from the thread, but yes, yes I love the smell. lol

 

[pltrgyst]

At my home games, we pass the shuffle with the button, but I do all the dealing. It keeps me from getting bored, and I'm sure it will be done right.

Plus I get to play mind games by telling the guys I'm spotting them an advantage... :

 

[guinness]

Hate dealing. Hate it!!

 

[stocky]

Are you talking home games? When i was in the Conrad Jupiter in the Gold Coast they did this. The chips were shitty apart from the white clay $1 chips that everyone used to pay the dealer for each hand... I'd never played in a casino that did this and haven't since. It was a separate payment system, you give them the $1 to play the hand and they were collected separately pre flop.

I bought 10 back to the UK with me....





Does anyone else love the smell of Clay chips?

Yes home game. Cash games are self dealt. If you don't want to deal your turn you can pay someone $1 to deal for you.

 

[slisk250]

We are lucky to have three great dealers, fast, efficient, few mistakes. Too bad they aren't a couple of hot ladies!!! hahaha

 

[MeridianFC]

I actually enjoy dealing. All of the tactile elements of the game are enjoyable to me.

Re: clay chip smell, if we're talking about Paulsons, then that's a big yes. I posted about this a few years ago on CT. I asked bill Endy what it was that gave Paulsons the particular aroma. "An ingredient in the chips" was his direct quote.

 

[Chicken Rob]

Hate dealing. Hate it!!

I think guinness was my ally in getting us to use pro dealers for our home game. They cost money, but we are playing rake free, and the cost is so worth it.

Like guinness, I hate dealing. Hate it!!

 

[krafticus]

I love shuffling and dealing. Wish I could do it full time for my current salary. Sometimes I go into my basement and shuffle and deal for 30-45 minutes with nobody there but myself. I find it "theraputic". I can shuffle faster than most professional dealers.

 

[rowlin]

It's not so much that I mind dealing but that I am terriawfulbad at tossing cards to people. Especially when sitting in a corner or at the head/foot of the table.

My efficacy is also a decreasing function of bourbon consumed.

 

[slisk250]

I love shuffling and dealing. Wish I could do it full time for my current salary. Sometimes I go into my basement and shuffle and deal for 30-45 minutes with nobody there but myself. I find it "theraputic". I can shuffle faster than most professional dealers.

You can deal all day long in the cool pines of Aspen Park next summer, minimum wage plus tips!!! kidding!!!

 

[stocky]

You can deal all day long in the cool pines of Aspen Park next summer, minimum wage plus tips!!! kidding!!!

He's kidding about the tips

 

[stratus51]

He's kidding about the tips

Talking about tips. I got one from a lonely roulette croupier once: RUN he whispered. He was right! Nothing good ever came of my time at the wheel!

 

[Chicken Rob]

I'm told a great dealer can make upwards of $80k. I know you're in a highly skilled position Krafty, and I would guess you make more than this, but when it comes time for a semi-retirement, this must look attractive.

 

[Poker Zombie]

Put me in the "Love to Deal" category. But there are things that increase or decrease the fun value...

Decrease the love:

• Dealing from an end, for obvious reasons
• Cards that aren't "slick" - my pinkies get sore sliding the deck halves together when a deck is dirty, which is one reason why I wash my decks after each poker event.
• Shuffling ahead or behind. I get it, more hands = more fun, but I can focus with one deck on the table, because I'm controlling the game. As soon as a 2nd deck hits the tables, I'm not in control anymore and my love for dealing is completely tossed out the door.
• If there is an obviously better dealer available. Good dealers are just amazing to watch and learn from. I'm not too proud to admit I'm just a fair dealer.

Increasing the love:

• Following TDA rules. I know them quite well, and if I'm dealing I'm controlling the game. If a game doesn't follow the rules I know, it's much harder to feel like you are doing the right thing.
• Bridge sized cards. It's what I practice with. Mrs Zombie and I have been known to sit across the table from one another just dealing the length of the table. Like @krafticus, I find it relaxing, and practice helps. Since I practice with bridge sized cards, my fingers always know right where to grab.
• Dealing at @Ben's games. His players tip. It's my only hope to break even. (although, his cards could use a good wash...)

My plans for retirement involve never working again, but I could easily find myself supplementing my income as a dealer in a smoke-free card room - which would involve moving out of Tennessee or a serious re-writing of some laws...