China Clay Poker Chip Cash Set Comparison Picture (9 Viewers)

[allforcharity]

There are other clay chips besides Paulsons. Some cost the same, others can be markedly more or less expensive.

There are other casino grade chips besides clay. Some cost the same, others can be more (rarely) or less expensive.

I agree with @BGinGA , though. If, in the medium- to long-term, if you FULLY EXPECT to upgrade, then starting with new China Clays is just a loss waiting to be realized. Better to use the cheapest chips you can (yes, even official casino weight sluggers or the least expensive Super Diamonds) for now (at the minimum quantities you'll need), save some more money, and buy something later that you'll keep forever (or likely keep it's value if you decide to sell/trade).

Nobody is trying (nor should they be trying) to shame anybody. But there are some truths about relative resale value of certain kinds of chips, backed up by evidence from multiple transactions on this very forum. And yes, I too have lost money by buying China Clays and then selling them fairly quickly after figuring they weren't what I really wanted.

 

[allforcharity]

My personal exposure to chip market dynamics extends to all historical posts on this forum and beyond. And I can confidently report that Paulsons do not, as a rule, hold their value. Like most commodities, they fluctuate, sometimes wildly.

Also, not sure if you're saying the forum member overpaid for his chips initially (which of course would cause the seller of said chips to inherit "bad karma" -> https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/flipping-for-noobs.52212/ ) or that this is just a brief price depression, but if you read the forum threads, you will see that these chips have been selling $1 below what he paid for the past several months. If the buyer did overpay, how is this to be avoided? Is there a PCF sage available to price-guide people toward a Paulson purchase? Is their work guaranteed?

Just imagine if Paulson starts offering brand new chips to the public again for $1 per chip (or if another hoard or secret buy is released to the public).

Financial pretzel logic isn't a good reason to buy Paulsons. The fact that your heart tugs as you to do so or that you desire the pinnacle of chip manufacture artistry are good reasons. Buy them for the right reason, if you buy them at all.

GPI/Paulson is NOT coming back to the home market at $1 a chip or at any other price. Why? Because their main customers (casinos) would pull away their business if they did so.

If another hoard or secret buy is released to the public, it will also not be at $1 a chip (my hoard is an exception, and is still priced way less). I never knew an initial price for a NAGB Paulson chip come in under $4/chip, to start (and plenty came in at $8). I haven't seen a substantial drop yet, except for perhaps the less common cash denoms like $2 and $2.50. They have not affected the market for the $1-3/chip sets.

Every Paulson fantasy series chip over the past 2 years has either kept their value or actually increased. And I'm going by actual sales, not dream prices invented by clueless eBay sellers.

Jack Detroit chips, in just about every case, have been sold and resold in the range of 90%-200% of their initial ChipRoom pricing. The vast majority of denoms (not necessarily total # of chips) are still selling at 150% or more of their initial price.

I have much less confidence than you in stating that Paulson chips generally do not hold their value. Of course, I would never recommend them as an investment vehicle, either.

 

[Coyote]

Nice thread.
Needless to say that all resale value theories go out of the window if you 're not at least North-America based (if not US-based, that is).
Also do NOT ever post a "wanted" ad if you 're fairly new to the forum. Go talk to your nearest PCF member(s) instead.