CatPants' 2025 WSOP PAHWM - Event 28: $600 Mixed No-Limit Hold'em / Pot-Limit Omaha Deepstack (22 Viewers)

[MrCatPants]

Making it a fourth year in a row (dare I say, a PCF tradition?), I am posting unfortunately only one PAHWM thread this year. Played two tournaments this trip, and my very, very deep run as you may have seen in another thread was in a Big O event as a part of MGMs tournament series. And I challenge any of you to remember the details of a Big O hand from even ten minutes ago (and also, that wasn't a WSOP event.)

Playing in a thousands of people deep MTT is a much different experience for sure. This year, I played in one WSOP event - a $600 round of each deep stack. Was mostly card dead and battled for like five hours, but ultimately was busted on an omaha hand where a guy called an all in with middle pair and a gutshot, and hit his gutshot to beat my set (WTF?). One particularly interesting hand from an early hold'em hand that I thought would drive good discussion.

Context:
Level 2, no significant movement yet. Haven't established any sort of table image, nor do I have a good read on anyone.

Blinds 100/200 with a 200 BB ante
Starting stacks of 30k.

SB: irrelevant
BB (Hero): 26k
UTG : 34k
UTG +1 : irrelevant
MP: irrelevant
HJ: irrelevant
CU: irrelevant
BTN: 36k

UTG flat CALLS 200
folds to BTN, who CALLS 200
SB folds
BB (Hero) looks down at

I would say "action on hero", but hero flats. Let's move to the flop.

Pot is 800

Flop comes .

Action on hero.

 

[Jonesey07]

lead out for half pot.

 

[JMC9389]

Pot it. This smacks your range.

 

[MrCatPants]

Pot it. Don't let the sets and other two pairs catch up.

I think you need to read it again - just a gutter, no pairs.

 

[BKisback]

Lead. You can fold out big card hands and it's easy to get rid of if you are raised. This is a nice board for a BB calling range, and UTG limps with such big stacks show low skill or mediocre holdings (or both).

 

[JMC9389]

I think you need to read it again - just a gutter, no pairs.

I edited. Sorry, no coffee today

 

[shorticus]

I like a check here. The hand that you will profit off of the most here is A3 (unsuited)if a 5 hits the turn (A3 suited should be a PFR) and 33 who may likely limp. Being too bluffy here puts you in an awkward spot.

 

[MrCatPants]

Continuing. Hero agrees in the moment with the range lead. But gets two callers.

Context:
Level 2, no significant movement yet. Haven't established any sort of table image, nor do I have a good read on anyone.

Blinds 100/200 with a 200 BB ante
Starting stacks of 30k.

SB: irrelevant
BB (Hero): 26k
UTG : 34k
UTG +1 : irrelevant
MP: irrelevant
HJ: irrelevant
CU: irrelevant
BTN: 36k

UTG flat CALLS 200
folds to BTN, who CALLS 200
SB folds
BB (Hero) looks down at

I would say "action on hero", but hero flats. Let's move to the flop.

Pot is 800

Flop comes .

HERO bets 600.
UTG calls 600.
BTN calls 600.

Pot is 2600

Turn comes BINK .

Action on hero.

 

[BKisback]

Bet substantial. Something like 2k or more. Charge any heart draws, sets, and two pair hands like 6-5 or 5-4. You're calling shoves. Flats from one or both villains can lead to a decision on the river.

 

[JMC9389]

Yahtzee. Lead out 3/4 pot.

 

[shorticus]

Jackpot!!!

 

[Frogzilla]

In my experience the cheap flop limpers don’t float their air. There’s not very many draws on that flop…78 pretty easy for either to have, UTG having a low flop continue % might mean has 78 a lot

still bet bc they also have lots of 2pair and a3, but keep it reasonable. 1800

 

[MrCatPants]

Hero bets small, seeking value against overcards that might peel, and induce a raise from a3. And if it's 87? That's poker. Gets two callers.

Context:
Level 2, no significant movement yet. Haven't established any sort of table image, nor do I have a good read on anyone.

Blinds 100/200 with a 200 BB ante
Starting stacks of 30k.

SB: irrelevant
BB (Hero): 26k
UTG : 34k
UTG +1 : irrelevant
MP: irrelevant
HJ: irrelevant
CU: irrelevant
BTN: 36k

UTG flat CALLS 200
folds to BTN, who CALLS 200
SB folds
BB (Hero) looks down at

Pot is 800

Flop comes .

HERO bets 600.
UTG calls 600.
BTN calls 600.

Pot is 2600

Turn comes BINK

HERO bets 1100
UTG calls 1100
BTN calls 1100

Pot is 5900.

River is interesting.

Action on hero.

 

[chippitydoodah]

 

[Frogzilla]

Hero bets small, seeking value against overcards that might peel, and induce a raise from a3. And if it's 87? That's poker. Gets two callers.

Context:
Level 2, no significant movement yet. Haven't established any sort of table image, nor do I have a good read on anyone.

Blinds 100/200 with a 200 BB ante
Starting stacks of 30k.

SB: irrelevant
BB (Hero): 26k
UTG : 34k
UTG +1 : irrelevant
MP: irrelevant
HJ: irrelevant
CU: irrelevant
BTN: 36k

UTG flat CALLS 200
folds to BTN, who CALLS 200
SB folds
BB (Hero) looks down at

Pot is 800

Flop comes .

HERO bets 600.
UTG calls 600.
BTN calls 600.

Pot is 2600

Turn comes BINK

HERO bets 1100
UTG calls 1100
BTN calls 1100

Pot is 5900.

River is interesting.

Action on hero.

Now I think you can treat your hand as the nuts & stack off.

My guess you’re probably supposed to go smaller, 1/2 pot because you have a 3 in your hand, but the overbet is more fun. I probably go 8k.

 

[tabletalker7]

If there was only one other person in this, I would over bet - make it look like I am trying to buy it.

With 2 others in this, I want to underbet this. Set the bear trap. Lead out with something like 1900, and let's hope one of the other 2 tries to buy it.

 

[BKisback]

Overbet. I'd go 8-10k. It polarizes your range and gets crying calls from pair+draw hands and two pair/sets. Hands that would call 3k will also call 10k, even your shoves a lot of the time, so max out the value here.

 

[MrCatPants]

Here is where it gets fuckity after betting smallish.

Context:
Level 2, no significant movement yet. Haven't established any sort of table image, nor do I have a good read on anyone.

Blinds 100/200 with a 200 BB ante
Starting stacks of 30k.

SB: irrelevant
BB (Hero): 26k
UTG : 34k
UTG +1 : irrelevant
MP: irrelevant
HJ: irrelevant
CU: irrelevant
BTN: 36k

UTG flat CALLS 200
folds to BTN, who CALLS 200
SB folds
BB (Hero) looks down at

Pot is 800

Flop comes .

HERO bets 600.
UTG calls 600.
BTN calls 600.

Pot is 2600

Turn comes BINK

HERO bets 1100
UTG calls 1100
BTN calls 1100

Pot is 5900.

River is interesting.

HERO bets 2200.
UTG raises to 6000.
BTN raises to 16000.

Action on hero.

 

[JMC9389]

Needed to go bigger on the turn and river.

Cry fold. You're no good here multiways betting and getting raised twice. They both limped into the hand initially. Someone has 7/9.

 

[RagingAZN]

Gross spot but is UTG really limping 79o and calling a flop/turn bet? Perhaps he made a set of 8s?

BTN however probably has it. Although you have a bit of blocking going on here holding a 7 yourself. With that being said, I think I also puke fold here. You still have a lot of chips if you fold here to win this thing!

 

[BKisback]

Call. You're winning or chopping too often to lay this down.

 

[buzzmonkey]

Call an rebuy.

 

[Frogzilla]

that’s insane river action. 100% of the time at least one of them has a 7, right? So we’re calling to at best chop 1/2 and sometimes chop 1/3?

You have to call hopefully only 14k to win either 8k (1/2) or 4k (1/3), call it 6k, you need to be right about nobody has 79 a whopping 70% of the time. Chop pot odds suck.

It’s probably close, overplayed 7x vs 79s with a backdoor floating flop, make me pick one I think overplayed just because most 7s don’t have the 9 with them (78,77,75,74) but pot odds are so bad here.

You can go off the suit of your 7 if you want and you don’t feel like you got absolutely steamrolled - 79s w/backdoor then 75s then 76s then 78s are the most relevant, so best (call) to worst (fold) suit is heart > diamond > spade > club. Your probably should fold.

 

[MrCatPants]

that’s insane river action. 100% of the time at least one of them has a 7, right? So we’re calling to at best chop 1/2 and sometimes chop 1/3?

You have to call hopefully only 14k to win either 8k (1/2) or 4k (1/3), call it 6k, you need to be right about nobody has 79 a whopping 70% of the time. Chop pot odds suck.

It’s probably close, overplayed 7x vs 79s with a backdoor floating flop, make me pick one I think overplayed just because most 7s don’t have the 9 with them (78,77,75,74) but pot odds are so bad here.

You can go off the suit of your 7 if you want and you don’t feel like you got absolutely steamrolled - 79s w/backdoor then 75s then 76s then 78s are the most relevant, so best (call) to worst (fold) suit is heart > diamond > spade > club. Your probably should fold.

And i still have action behind. Not sure how that factors in as well as a call could potentially (shouldnt but could) face a jam.

 

[JMC9389]

And i still have action behind. Not sure how that factors in as well as a call could potentially (shouldnt but could) face a jam.

Right. My approach changes if I'm in position here. I'd have no interest in putting in a single chip more into the pot facing a raise and then a reraise. You're chopping in the absolutely best case scenario.

 

[Frogzilla]

And i still have action behind. Not sure how that factors in as well as a call could potentially (shouldnt but could) face a jam.

Ah yea your 8k behind is committed if you call. I think just assume it’s more like calling 16k-17k (usually 14k but sometimes 22k) which means need to be right closer to 75% of the time. Weird hand. You fold?

 

[doughboy63]

Is 79 ever calling the flop? Even suited needs runner, runner to get anywhere. Maybe pot odds drove the call? I’m calling expecting a chop, but I’m bad at cards and am probably going bust.

 

[shorticus]

Is 79 ever calling the flop? Even suited needs runner, runner to get anywhere. Maybe pot odds drove the call? I’m calling expecting a chop, but I’m bad at cards and am probably going bust.

This was my question. How does 79 make it past the flop.

 

[Highli99]

They always have it.

 

[MrCatPants]

This was my question. How does 79 make it past the flop.

"how does UTG flat?"
"how does button flat"
"how do two players call BB's range bet on flop?"

If you are expecting rational answers, you won't get them. This is early stage, relatively inexpensive, WSOP poker.