Canceled Casablanca set mint 400chips - SCAM - DO NOT BUY (1 Viewer)

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Hi all I sell a beautiful set of casblanca paulson in mint confition

100x5$
100x25$
100x100$
50x 500$
50x 1000$ oversized
1x dealer button

Not interested to split, or if all left, sending in one usa adress who dispatch in conus

Asking 1100$ includ basic shipping with tracking number
 

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You both have valid points, but I am afraid the 'solution' would not be enforceable. Similar to posted rules for Auctions, and before that for Raffles, the admins can enforce certain rules for Classifieds, one of which could be that ALL dibs have to be first posted in the ad, then followed by a PM. This way there is never a dispute about the hierarchy of dibs and who should get the chips. But who should get the chips and who will end up with them are very different, even if you have the first dib.

The reality is that several prolific buyers of higher-end chips don't like to express their interest and eventual acquisition of certain chips via posting in the Classifieds. And some offer a higher price via PM, and the sellers decide to sell at the higher price. Lastly, just because someone thinks they have dibs on chips, doesn't mean they will get them, or are entitled to get them. There are several members that I will never sell any chips to, regardless of how many 'dibs' they post in my ads. :eek:

Lastly, I hardly ever see members posting negative reviews, despite the fact that some truly deserve it. Maybe there is a better mechanism to alert members of less than honorable dealings, rather than staying silent and leaving others to experience it for themselves.

This is how I feel. At first, I had a hard time understanding why people wouldn’t buy/sell to certain members, but it did not take long for me to figure out. There are a couple I would never do business with no matter how bad I would want the chips, or how bad I would want to sell them.
 
My payment on another set got reversed. I let them know there were other fraudulent transactions in the last 48 hours they needed to consider.
 
If payment is accepted it’s a done deal no matter what and the seller needs to send chips or at minimum make the buyer whole.
If no payment was sent then it is dishonorable to back out of a deal but I’m the end there’s no financial impact.
Being a jerk and being a thief are two very different things.....
And while not always stated many sellers post sales on multiple sites. If the sale happens on another site first / before the ad here can be updated well that’s life.
I don’t hold it against the seller, we all have lives and can’t keep everything updated in real time.
 
If payment is accepted it’s a done deal no matter what and the seller needs to send chips or at minimum make the buyer whole.
If no payment was sent then it is dishonorable to back out of a deal but I’m the end there’s no financial impact.
Being a jerk and being a thief are two very different things.....
And while not always stated many sellers post sales on multiple sites. If the sale happens on another site first / before the ad here can be updated well that’s life.
I don’t hold it against the seller, we all have lives and can’t keep everything updated in real time.
He has been on MULTIPLE times today and wont answer any messages.
 
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He has been on MULTIPLE times today and wont answer any messages. He was answering g messages this morning within 5 minutes. I have been monitoring his account. ZERO responses and he logs kn a monitors about once an hour. Call me
dishonorable jerk if you wish. When he reposts, someone more honorable can buy them.
I was not saying you or any buyer in this scenario is a jerk at all.
The seller who doesn’t honor a deal but hasn’t accepted payment would be the dishonorable jerk depending on how much they spoke to the buyer and led them along.
it only becomes worthy of thievery when they take money
 
Ah
I was not saying you or any buyer in this scenario is a jerk at all.
The seller who doesn’t honor a deal but hasn’t accepted payment would be the dishonorable jerk depending on how much they spoke to the buyer and led them along.
it only becomes worthy of thievery when they take money
Ah!
 
There have been some suggestions for rule changes, admin enforcement, etc. to combat these scammers. I do appreciate the community input on the matter, but I think the only feasible and universal solution is to use Goods and Services payments to get PayPal's Buyer Protection. This scammer BS has been happening all to often. Times have definitely changed. Ads that say payment by PayPal Goods and Services only might start to be the norm.
 
There have been some suggestions for rule changes, admin enforcement, etc. to combat these scammers. I do appreciate the community input on the matter, but I think the only feasible and universal solution is to use Goods and Services payments to get PayPal's Buyer Protection. This scammer BS has been happening all to often. Times have definitely changed. Ads that say payment by PayPal Goods and Services only might start to be the norm.
This is a very valid point. Personally, I have my debit card hooked up to my PayPal (wife has our bank account hooked up to hers) and end up paying ~3%for F&F anyway. Paying the seller's ~3% fee for G&S is essentially a wash, and I get buyer protection.

Granted, for very large transactions with TRUSTED sellers, we use her PayPal for F&F with no fees, but this is becoming an increasingly risky option to apply broadly.
 
The seller has responded to me via PM. I have encourage him to respond more broadly in the thread to explain what is going on.
 
As soon as I blocked payment, he magically responded.
 

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The other sale thread posted (clubpoker.net) looks like it has Sha's profile (another user profile here).
I recently did a Casino Cancun purchase with Sha and his email address is sha187@..., too close to be a coincidence.
That sale went fine.

Does he have multiple accounts or may have been hacked....??
 
The other sale thread posted (clubpoker.net) looks like it has Sha's profile (another user profile here).
I recently did a Casino Cancun purchase with Sha and his email address is sha187@..., too close to be a coincidence.
That sale went fine.

Does he have multiple accounts or may have been hacked....??
I could be wrong but I thought that profile (Sha) was just mentioned as one of the sets photos here were grabbed from a sale Sha did on club poker from 2014 or something, the WHTC I believe.
 
Yeah I responded a d told him to respond to the threads. I told him we would all appreciate new photos of the chips.
 
He responded that he wont be able to see the chips again until Friday lolololol.
 

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Granted, for very large transactions with TRUSTED sellers, we use her PayPal for F&F with no fees, but this is becoming an increasingly risky option to apply broadly.

It is a sad day. As a new person I marveled that strangers sent each other money via PP just trusting them to deal fairly.
 
I could be wrong but I thought that profile (Sha) was just mentioned as one of the sets photos here were grabbed from a sale Sha did on club poker from 2014 or something, the WHTC I believe.


Ah... I was reading too fast.
Looks like the Club Poker post from 2014 was our member, Sha. I repeat - my dealings with Sha were fine.

On the other hand, the person selling the chips in OP looks to be somewhat of a dirtbag - unless he bought them from Sha.
 
sha187 is Guillaume not Julien and he come yesterday.
Already talk with him but never traded (I think).

The scammer used the images of others so be careful anyway.
 
I am so pissed off!!! More and more members refuse to ship to Europe and this d**** makes it even harder! I have purchased and sold about 6000 chips - all on here and I have never had a single parcel go missing, be damaged or any other problems. I hope you guys do not loose trust in European Chippers!! Hope everyone got their funds back.
 
FYI, in June 2018 I exchanged mails with him about the 240 Pink Buyin chips he sells in the Horseshoe sale.
Hopefully he stops talking with me at some point and the sale never concluded.
Hopefully... because I noticed yesterday that those chips were marked as sold (by him) in French poker forum ClubPoker.
So already in June he might have in mind to sell chips he does not have (anymore).

For me this reduces the hacking theory to its strict minimum. Or then the hacker already hacked him in June but just waked up now.

And also, if I’m the hacker, I’ll provide a PayPal address not related to the one of the hacked person... My assumption is that the guy created a new PayPal account and PayPal - after ID check - discovered it’s related to its main one and this is why the real address appears on the statements of the guys who sent him funds to his new PayPal address...

But again it’s just my personal view / interpretation on those facts.
 
Since he is communicating to members and does not set the record straight - this is no hack job - straight up dishonest and should be banned from the forum!
Yeah he was signed in just a couple hours ago again...
 
It is obligatorily a hack job or a computer steal otherwise the guy would have used recent images and normal prices.
He proposed the prices bought by the real Julien 2/3 years ago and the old picture and has never posted ads in France because we would have spotted the guy very quickly, he was certainly afraid that we would know the real Julien (or he dont have the PW for the CP forum).

Empty the " cache " of your computers every day, & ban cookie (it will still be archived on the hard drive but it is more difficult to recover).
 
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