Tourney Can’t check nuts IP (1 Viewer)

[Frogzilla]

Was involved in a disagreement about the technicalities of the rule; and couldn’t find the rule. is this actually a rule? If you check back nuts IP is it a penalty instead of just missed value?

 

[ImCrossland]

It’s a penalty where I play but I’ve never seen anything actually come from it other than a warning. Do it twice and you’re gone, from what I’ve heard.

 

[Frogzilla]

Do you have a link to the rule itself?

 

[ArielVer18]

This falls under collusion, more specifically soft play.

 

[warma]

Why? Why couldn’t you check the nuts back if you feel they would fold then but might be tempted to bet later?

What am I missing?

 

[ArielVer18]

Oh. I assumed @Frogzilla was talking about checking back on the river to go straight to showdown. Obviously there's no rule against checking back on earlier streets

 

[Frogzilla]

Yes checking back on river. I disagreed with this guy, to be blunt he’s an asshole, but I can’t find any text rule to back up my claim

Is this an actual rule

 

[Irish]

Not a rule in rrop, possibly in TD. Tourney only, its something they starting calling at WSOP. IIRC it resulted in a time penalty.

 

[Zmasterben]

Yes checking back on river. I disagreed with this guy, to be blunt he’s an asshole, but I can’t find any text rule to back up my claim

Is this an actual rule

It was enforced at least once on camera at the WSOP in the past but I am blanking on the situation. The idea is to prevent collusion in major tournaments.

 

[ArielVer18]

Rule 40 of WSOP rule. This is considered soft play. Other players may be expecting the player with the nuts to have more chips by the end of the hand. Penalty is based on the judgment of the tournament director ranging from disqualification to 1-hand penalty.

No one cares if you check back the nuts in a cash game, so this is a tournament only rule.

 

[DoubleEagle]

This falls under collusion, more specifically soft play.

There is no rule in the TDA for not betting the nuts. Any penalty given would be for possible collusion.

https://www.pokertda.com/forum/index.php?topic=1085.0

 

[ImCrossland]

Yeah and if you’ve unknowingly staked another player, or any kind of collusion where you wouldn’t want to damage their stack, this could be a sign that you have