Cash Game Breakdown for 1/3 and plaques?

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I'm looking to try hosting a game soon between me and my buddies... Stakes just 1/3.

Can see the game being 6-7 players max, I'd want to keep it small to start.

I've always loved the idea of plaques but find it would be a little awkward to get into a game.

I recently came across some real cool looking ones in my country's currency (Canada) in 20-50-100.

What do you think would be ideal way to set it up? What's the common thought on $20 vs $25 chips?

Having a $20 plaque might be too much?
 

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A 1/3 game will easily be buying in at $100 increments. A $20 plaque will mean having TONS of plaques and really not be feasible. With a game this big I also think a $25 chip would be better than a $20 chip. Whatever you choose for a breakdown, get a metric ton of $5 chips since they will be the workhorse, and if you like plaques get the $100 plaques.
 

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I definitely wouldn't use $20 plaques if it were my game. Every pot would involve plaques. Personally, I don't like playing with them much at all, but I definitely wouldn't even consider it for anything below $100 denoms in a $1/3 game, and preferably not at all.
 

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I definitely wouldn't use $20 plaques if it were my game. Every pot would involve plaques. Personally, I don't like playing with them much at all, but I definitely wouldn't even consider it for anything below $100 denoms in a $1/3 game, and preferably not at all.
Agreed, plaques are cool, but best along the rail holding value and looking cool, if they are in every pot they'll just be a pain in the butt.
 

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It really depends on player buy in tendencies, but in a 1/3 game the vast majority of chips in play will be $5 with 2nd most used chip being the $20/$25. Si of prior are buying in for 300-500, then you will need a decent amount of $20/$25s.
 

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$100 plaques for rebuys is really the only practical way to go. Maybe a handful of $50's if you want to go nuts (but def not needed) and decide on $20 chips over the $25 (cool $150 rebuy to get one of each 50 and 100 plaques).

Real answer --> $100 plaques for rebuys, $25 chips
PCF crazy answer --> $100 and $50 plaques, $20 chips
 

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i remember asking PCF why someone would use $20 vs $25 chips. and it has to do with buyin/re-buy/top-off amounts.

in a .25/.50 game, its very common for guys to say "gimmie another 20" (or another 40). guys will be showing up to the game with a lot of 20's. So its going to make life easier to use 20's in this case.

the 1/3 game example, people will be rebuying in $100 increments. for this reason, use 25 and 100 chips.
 

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As much as everyone loves plaques, let's look at what plaques are supposed to be in a cash game.

In a cash game, it is normal for players to need to buy more chips and 'reload' in the course of a normal game. The "chip bank" sells people chips to put in play. The only problem is that the chip bank only has so many chips. The purpose of the plaque is to give the chip bank something to buy chips back from well off players without removing the value of those chips from the game, which then allows the chip bank to sell more chips to allow players to reload more. Plaques are not supposed to be a part of normal play, chips are. Keep that in mind when determining what values are good for plaques.
 

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Yeah, just the idea of plaques seems neat... Like adding a little bit of class to my current 1 bedroom apartment lol.

$100s definitely seem way to go... probably wouldn't be getting too many in play... 50s are interesting but when do you ever see those?
 

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Yeah, just the idea of plaques seems neat... Like adding a little bit of class to my current 1 bedroom apartment lol.

$100s definitely seem way to go... probably wouldn't be getting too many in play... 50s are interesting but when do you ever see those?
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Those are cool looking plaques @Rhodeman77 , but fifties are bad luck to gamblers.


What do you think would be ideal way to set it up? What's the common thought on $20 vs $25 chips?

Having a $20 plaque might be too much?

I'm looking to try hosting a game soon between me and my buddies... Stakes just 1/3.

I recently came across some real cool looking ones in my country's currency (Canada) in 20-50-100.

On 20 vs 25, I think if the big blind is a whole dollar or more (games where the five is the "workhorse"), twenty-fives are better. If the big blind is less than a dollar (games where the single is the "workhorse", or limit games in singles) I think the twenty is better. (I have both in my custom set)

I would only do one denom of plaque so I wouldn't use the twenty, do one-hundreds only, more below.

1-3 is actually a pretty high stake outside of a casino. Though I guess today 3 CAD is about 2.40 USD. Still it's a high enough stake where you credibly should get a decent number of hundreds in play if you want to use plaques.

If you were to do plaques for these stakes, I think it really should only be hundreds. I think plaques work best if it's one simple denomination that is the highest in play.

Can see the game being 6-7 players max, I'd want to keep it small to start.

So I would target a bank of around 7-8K to make sure you have 300BB per player. (# buy ins of 100BB) If you play deeper, go for more obviously.

I would build something of at least 100/300/100 of 1/5/25 chips for a bank of 4100 in chips and then add 40 plaques of 100 to cap the set and bring it to 8100.

So you would theoretically exhaust the chips after 14 buy ins of 300. You would exhaust the ones and fives after just 6 buy ins and then could introduce a mix of twenty-five denom chips and one-hundred denom plaques for buy-ins after that.

Using 1/5/25
6 Buy ins of 15/47/0
1 Buy in of 10/18/8
Start issuing plaques and twenty-fives with the 8th buy-in.

That's the least I would do, I think there would be something to be said for adding 100 of each denom to the breakdown I suggested making it 200/400/200 for 800 chips plus 40 plaques. Total bank 11,200 (7200 before plaques, 2200 in just singles and fives). This might be useful if you go for bigger than 100BB buy ins or if your game grows to 9-10 handed instead of 6-7, or if you just embrace MOAR FIVES as the answer to all questions at these stakes.

Hope this helps,
 
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Those are cool looking plaques @Rhodeman77 , but fifties are bad luck to gamblers.

On 20 vs 25, I think if the big blind is a whole dollar or more (games where the five is the "workhorse"), twenty-fives are better. If the big blind is less than a dollar (games where the single is the "workhorse", or limit games in singles) I think the twenty is better.


1-3 is actually a pretty high stake outside of a casino. Though I guess today 3 CAD is about 2.40 USD.




If you were to do plaques for these stakes, I think it really should only be hundreds. I think plaques work best if it's one simple denomination that is the highest in play.



So I would target a bank of around 7-8K to make sure you have 300BB per player. If you play deeper, go for more obviously.

I would build something of at least 100/300/100 of 1/5/25 chips for a bank of 4100 in chips and then add 40 plaques of 100 to cap the set and bring it to 8100.

So you would theorhetically exhaust the chips after 14 buy ins of 300. You would exhaust the ones and fives after just 6 buy ins and then introduce a mix of twenty-five denom chips and one-hundred denom plaques.

Using 1/5/25
6 Buy ins of 15/47/0
1 Buy in of 10/18/8
Start issuing plaques and twenty-fives with the 8th buy-in.

That's the least I would do, I think there would be something to be said for adding 100 of each denom to the breakdown I suggested as well going for 200/400/200 for 800 chips plus 40 plaques. Total bank 11,200 (7200 before plaques, 2200 in just singles and fives). This might be useful if you go for bigger than 100BB buy ins or if your game grows to 9-10 handed instead of 6-7, or if you just embrace MOAR FIVES as the answer to all questions at these stakes.

Hope this helps,

to be honest I don’t consider myself a gambler, only a poker player.

The plaques aren’t to be used in big bet game, but in a limit game with $2.50 chip as the value storage. 20 x $2.50 equals 1 plaque.
 
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That's the least I would do, I think there would be something to be said for adding 100 of each denom to the breakdown I suggested making it 200/400/200 for 800 chips plus 40 plaques.

I'm kinda now thinking 200/500/100 for 800 chips and a bank of 5200 in chips (2700 in singles and fives).

1) Initial Buy ins of just singles and fives,
(8 of 20/56, 76 chip starting stack!)

2) Introduce a few twenty-fives for the 9th and 10th buy in
(2 stacks of 20/26/6)

3) Introduce hundred plaques on the 11th buy in.
(11 stacks of 8*25/1 plaque, and then 9 more buy ins using 3 plaques)

Or even 150/550/100 for a bank of 5400 in chips.

(7 initial stacks of 20/56, one stack of 10/58, one stack of 0/50/2, introduce plaques on the 10th buy in.)

I'm having fun with this because I don't think I would host a game this guy. The highest game I have hosted to date is 0.50-1 150max. So forgive me for going on overload here. Just illustrating, many ways to design this bank. But I think the main idea is that you want a breakdown where the plaques could get introduced, but you still have plenty of lower chips to support it.

I think what I am learning myself is that in a 300 buy-in a plaque represents 1/3 of that. Maybe that's the reasonable starting point for when plaques or cap chips should come in play?
 

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I definitely wouldn't use $20 plaques if it were my game. Every pot would involve plaques. Personally, I don't like playing with them much at all, but I definitely wouldn't even consider it for anything below $100 denoms in a $1/3 game, and preferably not at all.
This is deffinately good advice
 

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I like plaques but also think they should be special.... I only have them for a horse shoe set currently in 1000 and 5000 denom's partly due to cost and then each player can be issued with 1 or a small # of $1000 plaques to play. With the 5k being used when chipping up.
 
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