BEGONE RACETRACK! First Re-felt was a success! (2 Viewers)

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Bought a table on Facebook Marketplace two years ago for a good deal. Unfortunately, the more I played on it, the more I hated the racetrack.

Cards got stuck between the felt/rail, cupholders took up too much real estate on the table, and I cannot stand shuffling chips on wood or reaching over to shuffle on the betting line.

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(Forgot to take a proper "before" picture, this is a screenshot from a video with the table for reference)

When I bought the table, the legs were wobbly so I replaced them with the BBO Strong as Hell Legs for like $150. Honestly, great purchase and amazing value compared to the Gorilla Gaming legs or others that cost 2-3x as much.

I also bought new foam and felt to eventually attempt to refelt the table. They sat in my garage for over a year.

For some reason, a wave of motivation came over me last weekend to take a crack at it.

I have been reading racetack conversion posts on PCF and watching videos since I bought the table so I figured I had enough knowledge to give it a try.

We started by disassembling the table starting with the rail, the racetrack, and the middle felt piece. We got extremely lucky because after removing the foam and felt, the table sat pretty flush and even so no further sanding or manipulation had to occur. Although we probably could have sanded the middle piece further but the difference is negligible with the new foam in place.

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After the final removal of the old foam, we cut out the new table foam ( casino supply) flush to the edges of the table and used 3M 77 adhesive spray to lock it into place. After drying, we prepped the felt.

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With the felt prepped, we sprayed adhesive between the felt and foam and waited for it to dry.

After drying, we used a borrowed pneumatic staple gun to staple the felt into the side of the table and a few staples into the felt/foam for good measure.

The final piece was attaching the rail back on the table. This proved to be a little difficult because the foam added some space between the wood so we had to pull the width of the rail apart to bend the wood ever so slightly so that it would fit back on.

Longer wood screws were needed (see spacing issue due to foam above) and it buttoned up like a charm.

Trimmed the excess felt off the table and... DONE!

Feels like a real casino in this MF.

Thank you guys for the support as usual and everyone before me who posted their racetrack project on PCF. This was my sole resource for inspiration and guidance to take this project over the finish line.

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This gives me hope for all the kinda crappy tables I see on marketplace all the time. Id like to have the chance to someday replicate. Also poker in a lanai just seems like the nuts.
Dude it is. Next project is adding outdoor curtains then we're money
 
I'm lucky if I'm handy enough to change a windshield wiper lol. I wish I had the handyman skills some of you have, the money you all save!!!!
 
Nice work!!!

Just out of curiosity, how did you fill in the cupholder holes?
I was hoping you wouldn't ask! I rushed through and did not fill the cupholders. you can barely tell that they are there unless you know what you're looking for. When it starts to bother me, I'll circular cut into (2) pieces of plywood, and put a long screw in the side of the table through the wood to fill the cupholders
 
Great job.

So much dragging on the racetracks. I prefer them (mine is presently not a racetrack). Automatic betting line (my current table has a betting line) and just a nice cozy place to stack the mountain of chips.

You’ll find though that around here it’s like 90% against the racetrack.

Great job.
 
Great job.

So much dragging on the racetracks. I prefer them (mine is presently not a racetrack). Automatic betting line (my current table has a betting line) and just a nice cozy place to stack the mountain of chips.

You’ll find though that around here it’s like 90% against the racetrack.

Great job.
I have one and, like the OP, have grown to dislike it. It's loud when chips are riffled on it, it traps cards, and crumbs from chips/snacks always seem to accumulate there. Glad to see there's some hope for mine should I get the time to change it. Not looking forward to removing a bazillions staples though.
 
I have one because my Grandfather made it for me 22 years ago and that was style very popular. I’m back and forth. I do feel the racetrack looks nice and is a stable platform for chips. Also, although I hate food at the table and ask people don’t, people tend to put a pretzel or something on the race track and that’s better than the felt.

That said the occasional bad deal throws the cards on to it which makes them hard to pick up.

I have a shuffler in the way and I’m wondering how it will work table mounted. If anyone has a pic of a table mounted shuffler on a race track I’d love to see it
 
Race tracks have no real functional purpose that I can think of outside of the WPT Final Table with the LED light box for production.
Change my mind! :)
 
Race tracks have no real functional purpose that I can think of outside of the WPT Final Table with the LED light box for production.
Change my mind! :)
Off topic but I notice a picture of one of your tables with a chip drawer on Facebook. This was a feature (though done with simple drawer tracks from Home Depot) my Grandfather added to my table when he built it 2 decades ago ago.

I don’t see it on your website as an option. Can you order this?
 
Off topic but I notice a picture of one of your tables with a chip drawer on Facebook. This was a feature (though done with simple drawer tracks from Home Depot) my Grandfather added to my table when he built it 2 decades ago ago.

I don’t see it on your website as an option. Can you order this?
We do have the ability to do it on the Alpha Table and the Illuminati. We minimize the impact it has on leg space on these table, but it still does create less leg room for the dealer. For that reason we like to warn customers about it before we add it. It's also enough lower where I'd rather not do it on a table without a dealer area. It is a bit involved as we carve out the chip tray with CNC for the chip cradle, assemble the drawer, and then lacquer it 4-5x to make sure it's durable. Chips hold 1,000 chips with heavy duty drawers. shoot me an email we can quote it with your table.
 
We do have the ability to do it on the Alpha Table and the Illuminati. We minimize the impact it has on leg space on these table, but it still does create less leg room for the dealer. For that reason we like to warn customers about it before we add it. It's also enough lower where I'd rather not do it on a table without a dealer area. It is a bit involved as we carve out the chip tray with CNC for the chip cradle, assemble the drawer, and then lacquer it 4-5x to make sure it's durable. Chips hold 1,000 chips with heavy duty drawers. shoot me an email we can quote it with your table.
Maybe just allowing for something like this or even more low profile to be attached would be easier.
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“them with the BBO Strong as Hell Legs for like $150. Honestly, great purchase and amazing value compared to the Gorilla Gaming legs or others that cost 2-3x as much.”

By the way, have you seen or compare Gorilla legs vs BBO? I have both, BBO folding legs cost $150 vs gorilla $250 but beside the cost; there is no comparison. If you are on a budget totally understandable. Once you use gorilla folding legs there is no going back. It is like night and day. I am talking about 5 times better. That’s my humble opinion.

To be fair I went ahead and purchased BBO kidney Bean Poker table because Gorilla customer service was bad. They didn’t provide me a quote for their similar kidney bean shape table. I throw out BBO folding leg and replace them with Gorilla folding leg instead .

Congrats on your new table. I am glad you took the leaping fate and redone the table. I am very much dislike the race track. A few food cart will be a finishing touch!

Enjoy

V
 
Spoken like a true 4 Loco drinker...which goes on side carts. :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

Elijah Craig smoked old fashions are art to be admired. (:
And just trying to roll a spliff on the rail with that fckn drink cup in the way.
When rolling on a race track....I'll bet you the dealer over pitches and there goes my master piece in the making.

SIDE CARTS all the way...keeps the tables clean(er) and easier to dispose empties without disturbing the game/table/chip stacks (my PHL lesson).
 
Not to mention that race tracks kill, people....they kill great card decks.
 
And just trying to roll a spliff on the rail with that fckn drink cup in the way.
When rolling on a race track....I'll bet you the dealer over pitches and there goes my master piece in the making.

SIDE CARTS all the way...keeps the tables clean(er) and easier to dispose empties without disturbing the game/table/chip stacks (my PHL lesson).
You are correct sir...amateurs should not use drink rails.

I actually redid one of my tables. It had a race track and drink rails. I initially got rid of both. That lasted about 6 months and I couldn't stand it, so I reinserted the drink rails.

I was also worried about spillage early on, so I ran a test (see video below). All a matter of personal preference my friend. (:

Side note. What are you doing May 20th - 24th? I'm offering a free option to spill shit all over my tables Brother!! (:


 
You are correct sir...amateurs should not use drink rails.

I actually redid one of my tables. It had a race track and drink rails. I initially got rid of both. That lasted about 6 months and I couldn't stand it, so I reinserted the drink rails.

I was also worried about spillage early on, so I ran a test (see video below). All a matter of personal preference my friend. (:

Side note. What are you doing May 20th - 24th? I'm offering a free option to spill shit all over my tables Brother!! (:


I agree....but best option are those slide under the rail cup holders (they come transparent...ideal for old fashion's).

What i'm doing May 20th - May 24th...???
That would be very close on my Vegas trip if I go play WSOP, like a warm up (series starts on 26th of May).
I'm working out my schedule once i'm in Vegas (in 2 weeks) or close after.

If I can make it work...and it looks it could just work, I'm in.
Do you accept tentatives ?

And thanks either way my friend...always nice to feel very welcome so far away from home.
 
ABSOLUTELY!! Free option my friend!!
That would be awsome to share the tables again...I missed the presence of Mr. Bubble Head a lot last PHL's :cool :love:
And I have never been to Maryland area....

With The Wire being my nr 1 show for life...I have to make it Baltimore one day.

Hope we can make this work brother...thanks again.
 
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“them with the BBO Strong as Hell Legs for like $150. Honestly, great purchase and amazing value compared to the Gorilla Gaming legs or others that cost 2-3x as much.”

By the way, have you seen or compare Gorilla legs vs BBO? I have both, BBO folding legs cost $150 vs gorilla $250 but beside the cost; there is no comparison. If you are on a budget totally understandable. Once you use gorilla folding legs there is no going back. It is like night and day. I am talking about 5 times better. That’s my humble opinion.

To be fair I went ahead and purchased BBO kidney Bean Poker table because Gorilla customer service was bad. They didn’t provide me a quote for their similar kidney bean shape table. I throw out BBO folding leg and replace them with Gorilla folding leg instead .

Congrats on your new table. I am glad you took the leaping fate and redone the table. I am very much dislike the race track. A few food cart will be a finishing touch!

Enjoy

V
I actually wanted to purchase the gorilla gaming legs. Next table I’ll have to give them a try.
 
You will not be disappointed! With gorilla folding legs.

If you don’t like it I will buy off you. Laughing out loud 😁
 

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