Apache 20 sampler thoughts (1 Viewer)

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I am brand new to this hobby and a few weeks ago had no idea what a Paulson or china clay even was. I read "get samples" on every post here, so I did and can confirm it is great advice. Hopefully this will help someone else who is new.

These are my completely unrefined noob opinions. I haven't yet acquired the taste for Paulsons, though from what I read I am bound to.

TLDR: Get samples. I love the Apache Bank. Claysmith (showdown, mint, milano) are not for me.

What I received:
Paulsons: good condition Indiana Grand, beat up Majestic Star
China Clay: Royal, Bank, Majestic, Milano, Dunes, Pharaoh, Greek Key
Sluggos: Monte Carlo, Casino Royal, Mint, Showdown
Ceramic: Tiki King, Nile Club
Other random plastics and ceramics I didn't recognize

My favorite: The Bank. I got the pink 50 in my sample and it is bright! I love the simplicity of the design with no words or dollar sign. A 50 could play as T50, $50, or 50c depending on the need. Honestly, if I got to pick one set for free, had to use it, and couldn't resell this is what I would choose. The purple $500 and progressive edge spots really put this set over the top for me. Before handling samples, I thought I wanted Royals, but in a stack of 39mm, the 43mm chip is HUGE. To me it doesn't even feel like a poker chip.

Paulsons: They're nice, obviously. I find the inlay on the Indiana Grand too slick for my taste.

China Clays:
Tier 1: Royal, Majestic, Bank
Tier 2: Dunes, Pharaohs
Tier 3: Milanos, muted colors and rounded edges

Sluggos:
The good: I really like how the Monte Carlo looks and feels. For the price, I would probably rate this as the best value for the newcomer on a tight budget. I wish it were lighter though. The Casino Royale is similarly nice. They both have good smooth, square edges.
The bad: Claysmith Showdown and Mint. The edge flashing is a complete deal breaker for me.

Ceramic:
Ceramics aren't to my taste. I like chips to be soft, sticky, and quiet. Ceramics miss on all 3 for me.
The Tiki King is nice. The edge pattern is cool, but I wish it would continue onto the face of the chip.
The Nile Club reminds me of a Necco wafer. Not a knock, just an observation.

Random plastic:
I don't know what it is, but the Desert Palms feels like unslugged plastic. I like it for a cheap option.

I've done several experiments where I throw a few chips into a big loose pocket mix them and try to identify them without looking.
The sulggos are easily identified by weight. Sometimes on my first pass I will suspect one of the china clays is a Paulson.
But then when I get to the Paulson it's clear "oh no, that's the Paulson." So they do feel different, but to someone who has never held one before, not that different from china clay.

I hope this post isn't too long. Apologies in advance if I've violated any protocol. Thanks for reading!
 
I'm familiar with most of the chips you are speaking of except Bank.
Got pics of your assortment?
Nvm.
Searched bank. I had seen them before just didn't know what they were called.
 
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I love my Bank set. Inexpensive and good enough for the amount of play they will get.

Glad I’m not the only one.
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@BigJackJones Nice labels, where did you get them made and how much were they? Would you recommend them to others too? Got a Bank set myself and I'm pondering if I'll get some alternative labels maybe sometime in the future... Probably after I've finished my CPC customs project
 
I was in a similar situation recently and think I can contribute to help newcomers who might be reading this at some point. I recently scoured the forum, YouTube videos, and everything possible to try to decide what I would buy. Within my budget, I decided on China Clay. I didn't have the opportunity to get samples because the shipping to my country, besides being expensive, wouldn't arrive in time for my trip to the USA.

In Las Vegas, I managed to collect $1 chips from different casinos and ended up with a barrel of them. Most of them being Paulson (Mirage, Bellagio, Mandalay Bay, Harrah's, Venetian, PH, Wynn, TI, Paris, STRAT), others being Icon (LINQ, Cromwell) and I believe one Bud Jones from TI.

Josh from Apache was very cool and left my Dunes china clay order at the hotel. It was the moment when I could for the first time touch and feel Paulson and China Clay side by side and, even though some difference can be noticed, in my humble opinion - maybe here in the forum it's controversial - it's not THAT relevant. At least in the short term. Let's see in the long term.

But my tip is for newcomers to read the forum with a certain caution. Not complaining at all, I just noticed that the members are really dedicated and advanced at the matter and many opinions are strong regarding Paulson vs China Clay, for example. Don't be discouraged, ask for samples if you have the opportunity and test for yourself.
 

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