AI AGI ASI Oh MY (1 Viewer)

[Eriks]

There is no advancement in human history that equates to AI.

While I do agree with the statement, don’t you think we might misjudge the impact of the other advancements a bit since we haven’t lived in their respective ”before they were” periods (part from the digital revolution for some of us)?

I guess the speed with which everything is happening now is one other thing that really sets it apart from previous advancements.

 

[ekricket]

Extra humans always means a servant society. If people can’t get jobs slinging hash they will get valet jobs for the ultra wealthy. Or welfare - paid for by the ultra wealthy.

 

[ekricket]

There is no advancement in human history that equates to AI.

You are very very ignorant. Maybe you mean “there is no advancement in your lifetime that equates to AI”. Unless it’s diversity, that’s the key to everything I hear from these generations.

 

[Labrat]

We all have our opinions, but the fact that you are trying to equate electricity with a new form of intelligence would point to you not grasping what AI is and what AI/AGI will be. There is no advancement in human history that equates to AI.
It’s not fiction, it’s science. It’s predictive modeling.

You’re wasting your time.

 

[ekricket]

AGI/ASI is the issue.

I wouldn’t call it anti-AI as much as I would call it pro-Humanity. Not sure what you are referring to with “tech as a unique space”. It is already involved in nearly every industry.
Manufacturing, Agriculture, Transportation, Retail, Customer Service, Weaponry… a vast majority (70-90%) of trades in the stock market are via AI.
The downside is already being seen in workforce replacement.
Nearly 55,000 US jobs were replaced with AI in 2025. Microsoft accounted for 15,000 of those.
AI is already a problem, AGI would be a much much bigger concern.

I think the bigger question is who cares about these jobs? I mean the 55 thousand care for sure, but does the world’s 5 billion people care about them at all?

All those jobs were created by replacing whatever it was before them. There were not 55 thousand IT people in the whole world in 1955. But something drastic changed and suddenly an industry that employs millions of people was born.

 

[softchewy]

You are very very ignorant. Maybe you mean “there is no advancement in your lifetime that equates to AI”. Unless it’s diversity, that’s the key to everything I hear from these generations.

Guess I misspoke (though I thought it was implied).., I meant technical advancement.

 

[ekricket]

You’re wasting your time.

???? I’m pretty sure the whole world is waiting to see what a bunch of poker chip guys think about the direction of AI. After all, we are very informed by our media.

 

[softchewy]

???? I’m pretty sure the whole world is waiting to see what a bunch of poker chip guys think about the direction of AI. After all, we are very informed by our media.

He meant I am wasting my time engaging with you.
(For the record, I’m not saying that)

 

[Poker Zombie]

“Learn how to code fill out welfare forms”

Wow, you are old.

AI filled out my welfare forms.

 

[ekricket]

He meant I am wasting my time engaging with you.
(For the record, I’m not saying that)

Yes, because it n his mind if someone doesn’t agree with you immediately and in full force they just don’t exist anymore. They are subhuman and not worthy of dialogue.

 

[ekricket]

Wow, you are old.

AI filled out my welfare forms.

Is every kind of auto fill considered AI now? If my reply is spel-cheked every time is that AI taking a proofreaders job?

 

[softchewy]

Yes, because it n his mind if someone doesn’t agree with you immediately and in full force they just don’t exist anymore. They are subhuman and not worthy of dialogue.

I think it is partly about how you respond.
I will say I apologize for my statement about grasping that made it sound like I was calling you ignorant.

 

[waddadonk]

The 28 were replaced with AI. She is the one interacting with AI to perform the tasks of those 28 people and said it is working.

I read this as "she now has to micromanage 28 people's worth of work". Depending on what AI is used for, she has to account for fragile behavior, hallucinations, reduced reliability. How is she feeling about it, does she feel like she's better off?

 

[softchewy]

I read this as "she now has to micromanage 28 people's worth of work". Depending on what AI is used for, she has to account for fragile behavior, hallucinations, reduced reliability. How is she feeling about it, does she feel like she's better off?

I don’t have that answer as I didn’t speak to her. This info/story was from a conversation I had with my wife yesterday.

 

[ekricket]

I read this as "she now has to micromanage 28 people's worth of work". Depending on what AI is used for, she has to account for fragile behavior, hallucinations, reduced reliability. How is she feeling about it, does she feel like she's better off?

She can use AI to manage all that.

When you say fragile behavior, hallucinations, reduced reliability - that sounds just like humans in a corporate setting.

 

[ekricket]

These were the best minds of the time using the best information and computing power at the time. Self-fulfilling maybe?

https://bigthink.com/surprising-sci...the-end-of-civilization-so-far-its-on-target/

And if you believe this, it was 1973. You’ve had 52 years to prepare. Have you done anything but complain? Anyone?

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

The distinction between AI and AGI isn’t being realized here enough

 

[softchewy]

Train better. It will be a long time before AI replaces bed pan cleaners.

Humanoids are already a thing. Tough to say what long time translates to, but it is a likely scenario that they will be able to perform most human tasks. They can already perform some.

 

[Poker Zombie]

Is every kind of auto fill considered AI now? If my reply is spel-cheked every time is that AI taking a proofreaders job?

I would say yes. Spell checking is pretty basic, but predictive text is just one form of simple AI. It's a long way from AI that had so many in a tizzy, but it's something that we all use.

I, for one, do not worry about the AI future. Change is always scary. If AI starts playing live poker, then I will be worried.

 

[ekricket]

Humanoids are already a thing. Tough to say what long time translates to, but it is a likely scenario that they will be able to perform most human tasks. They can already perform some.

The ones I’ve encountered take my trash or tell me where the front desk is.

Here’s a thing you can read about technology. Parts 1and 2 but you can skip the Tesla stuff at the end. It’s a beginning education.

https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/06/how-tesla-will-change-your-life.html#part1

 

[Labrat]

Yes, because it n his mind if someone doesn’t agree with you immediately and in full force they just don’t exist anymore. They are subhuman and not worthy of dialogue.

Actually it's because of douchebag statements like this:

Train better. It will be a long time before AI replaces bed pan cleaners.

 

[ekricket]

Actually it's because of douchebag statements like this:

Just echoing the helpful statements everyone else has put out.

Well everybody’s worried about JOBS. There are quite a few that AI won’t touch for decades. If you are worried about AI you should take one of them instead of moving into the future. Join the buggy whip club.

I’m sorry if you clean bed pans and I offended you.

 

[softchewy]

The ones I’ve encountered take my trash or tell me where the front desk is.

Here’s a thing you can read about technology. Parts 1and 2 but you can skip the Tesla stuff at the end. It’s a beginning education.

https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/06/how-tesla-will-change-your-life.html#part1

Thanks for that, but I’m already well beyond the beginning stage.

 

[ekricket]

Just imagine if AI was involved in these. Because it’s humans though we just shrug and keep going, world didn’t end.

• [Mars Climate Orbiter (1999): Lockheed Martin supplied software using US customary units while NASA expected SI units, causing the probe to burn up in the Martian atmosphere.
• [Tacoma Narrows Bridge (1940): Known as "Galloping Gertie," the bridge collapsed due to wind-induced aeroelastic flutter, a phenomenon not fully understood by designers at the time.
• [Space Shuttle Challenger (1986): Cold temperatures caused O-ring rubber seals on the solid rocket booster to fail, resulting in a fatal explosion.
• [Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant (1986): A flawed reactor design combined with human error during a safety test led to a massive explosion and radiation release.
• [Hyatt Regency Walkway Collapse (1981):Design changes during construction to a suspended walkway system resulted in a collapse that killed 114 people in Kansas City.
• [Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill (2010): A faulty blowout preventer failed to seal the well during a high-pressure methane gas release, causing the largest marine oil spill in history.
• [SNCF Train Mistake (2014): France's national railway ordered 2,000 new trains that were too wide for many regional station platforms, costing millions to fix.
• [Millennium Bridge (2000): London’s "Wobbly Bridge" had to be closed shortly after opening due to unexpected lateral swaying caused by pedestrian foot traffic.
• [Great Molasses Flood (1919): A massive storage tank in Boston burst due to poor design and failure to inspect, releasing a deadly wave of molasses.
• [Quebec Bridge Collapse (1907/1916): The bridge collapsed twice during construction due to engineering errors in calculating weight and structural capacity

 

[ekricket]

Thanks for that, but I’m already well beyond the beginning stage.

Of course so there’s no need of any future education. You have all you need for the rest of your life.

 

[softchewy]

Of course so there’s no need of any future education. You have all you need for the rest of your life.

Not saying that. I read through it (not every word)
It just didn’t provide any special insight.

 

[Pinkdan]

 

[ekricket]

Not saying that. I read through it (not every word)
It just didn’t provide any special insight.

I just can’t get what people are worried about. AI is pretty vague.
Are they worried there won’t be jobs for everyone?
Are they worried there won’t be food for everybody?
Are they worried there won’t be heat and light for everybody?
Are they worried they won’t find mates?


I kinda thought we were working toward a society where nobody works unless they want to, nobodies hungry, and everybody’s free to do whatever they want anytime they want with no regards to the consequences on others. AI looks like a pretty good step towards this.

All my replies so far have been generated by AI BTW.

 

[softchewy]

@ekricket
I won’t speak for you, but I think the crux here is that you are framing this a just another technological advancement in a long line of technological advancements.
I’m stating a viewpoint that AI and more importantly AGI are inherently different due to their current and possible capabilities. I know we use the term like it is a single thing, but it is an infinite possibility of things. Something that can approach and surpass human intelligence is specifically different than any previous technological creation.

AI looks like a pretty good step towards this.

That is a viewpoint. Mine is not that.
Of course there will be aspects of it that are beneficial to humans. I just see us as the frog boiling slowly while at the same time we are the ones controlling the heat. At some point, we won’t have control of the heat.

 

[ekricket]

@ekricket
I won’t speak for you, but I think the crux here is that you are framing this a just another technological advancement in a long line of technological advancements.
I’m stating a viewpoint that AI and more importantly AGI are inherently different due to their current and possible capabilities. I know we use the term like it is a single thing, but it is an infinite possibility of things. Something that can approach and surpass human intelligence is specifically different than any previous technological creation.


That is a viewpoint. Mine is not that.
Of course there will be aspects of it that are beneficial to humans. I just see us as the frog boiling slowly while at the same time we are the ones controlling the heat. At some point, we won’t have control of the heat.

When it no longer serves us we will quit using it. There’s no mandate to keep expanding it.

I was alive and working well before the internet. It’s the same thing over and over.

You know what rules you?
Whatever you are afraid of.

Electricity is OUR bitch. Don’t be afraid. Use the crap out of it. The people that will succeed are the ones that adapt and utilize this for greater good. Just like the people that embraced the internet.
Honestly - life does not care about losers in any made-up race. Ask the dinosaurs