Abbiati Chips

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Anyone handled these? They look almost rubbery like BJ chips
 

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Anyone handled these? They look almost rubbery like BJ chips
No, harder plastic, more like Matsui chips.

For me anyways, amongst plastic chips I like from most to least:

B&G
BJ
Abbiatti
Matsui

Mike
 

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No, harder plastic, more like Matsui chips.

For me anyways, amongst plastic chips I like from most to least:

B&G
BJ
Abbiatti
Matsui

Mike

Very curious where you rank RT Plastics and ICON in that list..... and china clays, for that matter. Also, don't BJ chips come in two distinctly different versions - with totally different handling/feel characteristics? Curious as to which ones you ranked (and where you'd rank the other type).
 

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currently looking into custom Abbiati and RT Plastics. have sample sets of both on the way. i think the custom prices will differ dramatically, so i'll have a lot to consider, but i will update this thread or start another with my impressions of both and the price points. and of course if i do the order there will probably be a design thread or if not a sample set offering at some point.
 

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Custom RT Plastics, previously owned? I didn't think they were in business any longer.
 

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Very curious where you rank RT Plastics and ICON in that list..... and china clays, for that matter. Also, don't BJ chips come in two distinctly different versions - with totally different handling/feel characteristics? Curious as to which ones you ranked (and where you'd rank the other type).
I'm not very familiar with RT plastics or ICON chips (in fact, not sure if I've ever handled ICON chips aside from possibly seeing one at a time at a convention.)

From what I recall, the RT plastics were pretty similar to Abbiatti and Matsui.

With regards to the V7 vs S2 (I think those are the main types of bud jones chips? I tend to forget the names of the two, since I'm not a big fan of them) chips, I didn't really notice a major difference between the two. I know that the fans of the chips (paging jbutler?) can tell between the two, but in a blind test, I don't think I could. At least, not currently. If I shuffled them for hours prior to the test, then possibly?

It's funny, with China Clays, I'm a minor fan. I do like them, but they vary much more than the other chips to me. I can go from thinking they're great, to just meh.

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The B&G chips I played with were mostly used. There was the occasional newer one mixed in, but not enough for even a stack of them. I REALLY enjoyed them. They had a great buttery feel and shuffled and handled well. Cutting out stacks was great. Raking pots was even better.

BJ chips, it seems that most local casinos are using V7s. Ranging from mint to casino used. The plus side is that they don't really wear, so stacks remain pretty consistant. Casino used tends to make them feel a little softer (imo) maybe because of the gunk that gets built up on them? (ok, gross.) I think the S2s felt a little softer, and maybe a bit more like the B&G chips, but I also think the S2 chips I used were more well used, so maybe that contributed to it.

RT/Abbiatti If I held just a few of these chips, I most likely wouldn't be able to tell the difference, but when I get a stack of them, they just don't feel as 'nice' to me. I don't really know why. Could be just an unfamiliar feel to them?

Matsui. If I have just one chip, I think it feels amazing. If I have enough to shuffle, I get frustrated. Where did that lovely feel go? I really don't like the beveled edge option on Matsuis. I have a playable set of 44mm chips that I will most likely a) never use and b) never sell. The reason? a) I don't like the feel of them , so b) I would never buy another set of Matsuis. But I want to keep them around because they look great, and then I can pick them up and remember why I don't want to order any, lol!

China Clays I have Dunes (chiproom) and a large CPS setup. The Dunes are a love/hate thing. There are actually times when I prefer the cheaper Dunes chips for feel. Not sure why. Just when shuffling them (I've mixed a set of them) I sometimes find I prefer the cheap version. With the CPS chips, I generally like the feel. They feel 'harder' to me than most plastic chips, but not as hard as dice chips. They handle a bit more like a BCC chip than a plastic chip. I would probably place them right around the RT/Abbiatti chips in the 'want to play with' category. Top of that lineup would be Paulsons. Some ASM molds , BCC and B&G would be in the next tier. BJ , China Clays and some ASM molds in the next tier. Followed by RT/Abbiatti well used Paulson/BCC and ASM molds in the next tier, and last would be Matsuis and generic plastics (nexgens, etc.)

However, given a good game, I'd play with dice chips where every color is the same value. :p

Mike
 

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Custom RT Plastics, previously owned? I didn't think they were in business any longer.

PM if you want info. I might have a line on a lot of old new stock available for custom, but don't want to broadcast too widely (not that there's a TON of interest in custom RTs) unless stock is more limited than I think.
 

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got the abbiati sample set in the mail and i really, really like them. very much preferable to the matsuis imo, which are far too slick for my liking. i might even like them better than BJs. i'll have to spend some more time with the samples.

i sent a request for pricing from abbiati. we'll see if/when i hear back.
 

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I have 50 rt plastic Table Mt $1's for sale pm if interested

i have a sample set of RTs coming, but if you get another 1000 of those $1s, i'll take them ;)

Abbiati! :eek:¡<(((( Group Buy!!!!!

Let's do some wsop knockoffs!

i would love that. i do expect to see a price of about $2 per chip, though, so maybe higher than most would be willing to pay for abbiatis. who knows, though?
 

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got the abbiati sample set in the mail and i really, really like them. very much preferable to the matsuis imo, which are far too slick for my liking. i might even like them better than BJs. i'll have to spend some more time with the samples.

i sent a request for pricing from abbiati. we'll see if/when i hear back.

Pics?
 

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just 5 chips. i mainly wanted to see how they handled. 5 isn't necessarily my optimal shuffle stack, but you can still get a good feel for how slick they are when stacked.

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