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Darthhoodie
Flush
You say in the OP that the seller has the correct chips. Does this mean the seller made a mistake and sent a mix of chips instead of sending the correct ones? I just don't get why the seller would ship a mix of chips instead of all the same unless a mistake was made. Assuming a mistake was made by the seller, the seller should honor the original deal and send the correct chips at his/her own cost. You should then also send back the wrong chips to the seller, unfortunately for the seller at their cost as well. See the mistake was made by the seller who sent the wrong chips. I prefer to believe this rather than the seller willfully mislead you, that's just the type of guy I am. I feel like if I someone sent me the wrong chips and apologized and offered to sent the correct ones at their shipping cost, I would probably do them a solid and pay for the wrong chips to be shipped back. People make mistakes, own up and eat the small cost of the mistake. Hopefully the seller will do the right thing, say sorry my bad and send you the correct chips that you paid for, and maybe as a gesture of kindness pay for the wrong ones to get shipped back to him/her. Not because you should or are obligated to but for some positive chip karma. If the seller is being suborn and will not make good on the deal, demand a refund and ship back. Give negative feedback as a last resort, most here will not deal with this person if this isn't made right so I would allow this person a chance to make good.
Perfect use of the feedback feature. I feel like a lot of people are uncomfortable leaving neutral/negative feedback and just do nothing. Future buyers should know of this possibility so they can ask clarifying questions that normally are common sense with some sellers.
Even if the seller accepted a return and paid for shipping it would be at best a neutral experience for all the wasted time/effort imho. Not like this was something outside seller's control like a lost package or something.
Even if the seller accepted a return and paid for shipping it would be at best a neutral experience for all the wasted time/effort imho. Not like this was something outside seller's control like a lost package or something.
This pic from the original sale shows both spot patterns upon close inspection, if one ever thought to question and look that closely.
The second closeup pic shows the 3d14 spotted chip highlighted, but the second chip in the stack is actually a 4d14 chip.
The seller is either an idiot with no powers of observation and "didn't notice" the two different spot patterns, or is trying to pull one over on you and shady AF.
Depending upon the quantity of chips you got and if there are enough with uniform spots, the seller should absolutely make this right with uniform chips and cover shipping at their expense. The easy thing would've been to just disclose the fact that there were two similar but different spot patterns in the sale, and that's why they were discounted over CPC creation price. SMH.
The second closeup pic shows the 3d14 spotted chip highlighted, but the second chip in the stack is actually a 4d14 chip.
The seller is either an idiot with no powers of observation and "didn't notice" the two different spot patterns, or is trying to pull one over on you and shady AF.
Depending upon the quantity of chips you got and if there are enough with uniform spots, the seller should absolutely make this right with uniform chips and cover shipping at their expense. The easy thing would've been to just disclose the fact that there were two similar but different spot patterns in the sale, and that's why they were discounted over CPC creation price. SMH.
From the sale ad, I see mixed chips in the stacked pic........not that I would have caught it myself, but you can see the changes in spot gaps down the barrel......
I wonder if they were CPC error chips thrown in with the order...?
Anyway, my OCD would probably kill me...........
I wonder if they were CPC error chips thrown in with the order...?
Anyway, my OCD would probably kill me...........
LOL Kyle beat me because I was too busy photoshopping the evidence @kmccormick100
@kmccormick100
OP
OP
Still trying to work this out. That was my proposal as well. He says it was a mistake and that he only picked the most mint chips for me. But then later claimed that they were all mint. Even though all inlays were popped off, some blank, and some relabeled. Wouldn’t call that mint either.
Darthhoodie
Flush
Would drive me crazy, some of my friends would never notice but it would be the only thing I could notice.
It's a error that the seller should fix... Not your fault.
Just put a different label on them and call them V1 and V2?
Shaggy
Full House
The seller should definitely have disclosed that the chips were not identical. Even though upon close inspection, the variations can be seen in the pic, no reasonable chipper would notice this or think to inquire regarding the consistency of the spot patterns.
Honestly, I might not even notice if I play in a game, and some of the chips are 3D14 and others are 4D14.
Chiphuntr
3 of a Kind
I would hope that the people on this forum are all here for very similar reasons, the infatuation with chips, casinos, playing poker and collecting to name a few. I would also think that there is a certain level of respect and honesty involved in the group and we should hold each other to that in order to maintain trust and integrity. Whether there is 1 rack or 10 at question people expect information to be disclosed.
Not intended to offend anyone just my humble newbie opinion.
Not intended to offend anyone just my humble newbie opinion.
Eloe2000
Straight Flush
Yeah, I could see how technically you could discover both spot patterns in those photos but I do feel that this needs to be disclosed directly and much more clearly. On the other hand I could also understand how this may not have been a big deal the seller and there may not have been any ill thought in not making a big deal about it. But they do need to make this right.
MaxB
Full House
The only way I would be happy with this deal is if the rack had 98 or 99 chips of one spot pattern and they used the other to fill in those remaining one or two chips ***(and disclosed it)***.
Rhodeman77
Straight Flush
The seller is wrong and should work with you to find an agreeable resolution.
Me personally, I wouldn’t be very bothered by the chips themselves, just how the seller is handling it. The chips look good together. I would think of it as an alternative/special edition $5 chip than pretty much every casino has. My OCD is much lower than many others though!
I hope you are able to work something out.
Me personally, I wouldn’t be very bothered by the chips themselves, just how the seller is handling it. The chips look good together. I would think of it as an alternative/special edition $5 chip than pretty much every casino has. My OCD is much lower than many others though!
I hope you are able to work something out.
boltonguy
Flush
Should have been clearly disclosed by seller. Noone buying chips should expect them not to have identical spots and identical labels.
You shouldnt have to ask if the spots are different. Seller needs to send you the chips with matching spots or refund your purchase price + shipping and pay for return shipping.
You shouldnt have to ask if the spots are different. Seller needs to send you the chips with matching spots or refund your purchase price + shipping and pay for return shipping.
joeyshin
Royal Flush
Different spot patterns, even if same colors, are not the same chips. You did not receive one kind of chip. Seller should make this right as his expense or be called out. That simple
OP
OP
I offered 20% refund just to be done with it and seller countered with 30% so I will give him credit for that. Still waiting on those funds though.
If I didn’t start this thread I do not believe this would have been settled. Thank you for your votes of support. I will close this thread once I receive funds.
If I didn’t start this thread I do not believe this would have been settled. Thank you for your votes of support. I will close this thread once I receive funds.
OP
OP
Situation has been resolved. Anyone know how I can close this thread!????
Regular users cannot close threads outside of their classified listings.
FordPickup92
Royal Flush
Ask Tommy to lock it from further replies?
Long, long ago on CT, I purchased a mint rack of Casino de Mexico 1 chips from a classified ad posted by vendor (and still a well-respected vendor here on PCF).
When they arrived, I was stunned and disappointed to find that some of the chips had 312 spots, and about 1/3 of the chips had 412 spots (which I had never even seen before). The differences were not disclosed in the ad post.
As a relative newbie at the time, I did nothing.... but my opinion of that vendor changed a lot that day.
Never used the chips, and eventually sold them years later for less than I paid.
If something like that were to happen today, my reaction would be a LOT different, and direct to the source for immediate correction/compensation.
When they arrived, I was stunned and disappointed to find that some of the chips had 312 spots, and about 1/3 of the chips had 412 spots (which I had never even seen before). The differences were not disclosed in the ad post.
As a relative newbie at the time, I did nothing.... but my opinion of that vendor changed a lot that day.
Never used the chips, and eventually sold them years later for less than I paid.
If something like that were to happen today, my reaction would be a LOT different, and direct to the source for immediate correction/compensation.
joeyshin
Royal Flush
i imagine if/when this happens, it's seldom intentional. If a chip has same colors and 312,412 spots, i know i might not notice right away. we all have this assumption that Paulson would not duplicate colors on a chip so there's no reason to notice spot patterns if colors are the same.
But even if its intentional, it is a seller's reputation that matters on this forum. If a member wanted to continue to do good business, they should make an effort to make the transaction right.
I sold 400 HS $25s to someone and was instructed to ship them to their office. Their office was in a suite that was in a commercial row. I saw the chips were delivered and even had the signature confirmation, but the buyer said they didnt get them. I took them for their word and gave 100% refund. I eat that cost because i continue to do deals here. i never did see that buyer again, but whatevers. 100% feedback score
Listen, you can keep bringing up the past or just accept my love....
..... Oh, I can't read words with that many letters. And dashes. And nice words.... I don't know nice things....
Then please look at my only negative score I received after posting a negative feedback because a buyer reneged on a made deal....
Both parties here had left negative feedback and posted private PMs to the public forum prior to any contact with us. Can't be unhappy when the nuclear option is used.
If I were the seller I'd offer whatever the buyer wanted: partial refund, full return (including international shipping), etc. That seems like the right thing to do, and I'm glad to hear the seller eventually responded appropriately.
However, as a buyer--and I may be in the minority here--I wouldn't care at all. I looked at the image in the OP and couldn't figure out what the hell was wrong with the chips. I like @Beakertwang's idea of v1 and v2 labels -- have the 414s be the "grand opening" chips or something.
However, as a buyer--and I may be in the minority here--I wouldn't care at all. I looked at the image in the OP and couldn't figure out what the hell was wrong with the chips. I like @Beakertwang's idea of v1 and v2 labels -- have the 414s be the "grand opening" chips or something.
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