Not Mine 600 roulette THC's for $40...AWWW YISSSSSS!!! (1 Viewer)

[Psypher1000]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Cas...uSeBRBJKuiRT5ilIas480%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

 

[RichMahogany]

Whoa! Edges somewhat rounded but at that price you can't complain

 

[Psypher1000]

For $40, even if they do nothing but dump them in a plastic bag, stick it in a box, and ship it to me, I'm still probably ahead of the game. I'll take that risk/reward ratio any day of the week!

 

[NiceShot]

For $40, even if they do nothing but dump them in a plastic bag, stick it in a box, and ship it to me, I'm still probably ahead of the game. I'll take that risk/reward ratio any day of the week!

Nice score. Re-label?

 

[Psypher1000]

Nice score. Re-label?

Something like that.

 

[BGinGA]

Wow, not often you see roulette chips made on the LCV mold. Probably not much depth left to re-label, but plenty good enough to play with once cleaned.

Wonder if they were made by C&J or Paulson. Referenced timeline in the auction would indicate C&J....

 

[Gear]

Wow. Just wow.

 

[Psypher1000]

Got the chips today. Al things considered, thy are in great shape and will clean up nicely. Not the worst chips I've seen, that's for sure. The real gem is a barrel of near mint horizon blue LCV's...awesome!

My only gripe - there are only 99 of the browns... /OCDRage

 

[BGinGA]

Steal of the year.

I'll sell you a brown chip for $50. #andyoudgladlypayitiftrue

 

[Don Clay]

incredible stuff for the price you've paid,
congratz for the move

 

[Toby]

Awesome score! What a steal!

 

[Thisfiendis138]

Price paid, materials and time added up into making these beauties shine and you'll still make out waaaaaaaaaaaay ahead! Good luck and Really looking forward to the after pics!

 

[Psypher1000]

And the aftermath (no oil)...

 

[Thisfiendis138]

Wow those look great! Got plans for em?

 

[ChipEnvy]

Never seen the injection nipple on LCV's before. Has anyone ever seen that?

Sweet score, What are your plans for them?

 

[BGinGA]

That is very odd, indeed. Don't recall ever seeing that on any LCV chips until now.

 

[Tommy]

I think these are C&J chips. Hats look taller. I can't tell if the canes are longer. Can you measure the canes?

 

[Psypher1000]

I will measure tomorrow. Who/what is C&J?

 

[ChipEnvy]

I will measure tomorrow. Who/what is C&J?

Christy and Jones. They were the original owners of the TH&C mold. They can generally be distinguished from the Paulson chips because as a newer mold the TH&C creates a shiny impression.

 

[BGinGA]

As stated earlier, the referenced timeline in the auction would indicate these were produced by C&J. But I don't remember seeing dots-in-hats on any THC chips before, no matter who made them....

 

[Mental Nomad]

First time I'm seeing it, too.

I don't think they're injection points - even if these were actually plastic injected and not pressed clay, those are not good locations; you would not put the injection points there, for several reasons.

I suspect these were made on a drilled-out or purposes-made hat & cane die, perhaps to intentionally differentiate roulettes from cash checks?

 

[BGinGA]

Actually, I have seen injection points in similar locations on other chips (round peg in square hole).

But your 'differentiate' point is a very good one. I suspect that there is someone on the ChipBoard who knows, or has seen these types of chips before.

 

[joker80]

They look great!

 

[Mental Nomad]

Actually, I have seen injection points in similar locations on other chips (round peg in square hole).

But your 'differentiate' point is a very good one. I suspect that there is someone on the ChipBoard who knows, or has seen these types of chips before.

This is driving me nuts. There's no injection in a compression process, far as I know.

Even if the preliminary blanks are produced with injection to make the spotted blank out even a solid blank, when it goes into the dies for compression molding, any pips would disappear. If pips from injection remain, they were never pressed - or the pips were part of the mold design.

I just checked all my casino Paulson and my Fun Nites. No pip marks.

Did Paulson ever play with injection molding some other material chips instead of compressing "clay?"

 

[Psypher1000]

A few more details on these.

It is *highly* doubtful these were used mid-century in Kentucky. This is not the shiny-hat C&J mold, and the Paulson H&C mold didn't come into production until 1965. All the KY gambling halls were closed by the time the Paulson H&C mold was around, and I could find no example of a KY casino using a H&C chip of any kind. In short, very likely not KY, and definitely not pre-1965. I don't care that they aren't from KY nor do I care that they are post-1965, but I've reached out to the seller just to see where the story came from, and to see if I can track it back any further.

The mold, look, feel, chip composition, wear, and even staining patterns on the edge - they all point to a Paulson-made chip. I've handled a number of H&C knockoffs, and these don't feel or wear the same If these are fakes, they are the best fakes I've ever handled. Others on The Chip Board/chip collector's club also agree that they are Paulson. There are a few skeptics, but most agree that they are legit.

The pips, unfortunately, remain a mystery. If they are Paulson, I speculate that they are either a) early production line copies, or b) intended to indicate they were for home/non-legal casino usage. I would lean towards A because some chips have them and some don't., and those that do only have them on one side. I suspect that these were from early cups/hobs, and that the pipped variety weren't discovered until some chips went out the door. Paulson's never been great about matching their H&C molds from side to side...this could just be one more instance of that trend.