Not Mine 600 roulette THC's for $40...AWWW YISSSSSS!!!

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For $40, even if they do nothing but dump them in a plastic bag, stick it in a box, and ship it to me, I'm still probably ahead of the game. I'll take that risk/reward ratio any day of the week!
 

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For $40, even if they do nothing but dump them in a plastic bag, stick it in a box, and ship it to me, I'm still probably ahead of the game. I'll take that risk/reward ratio any day of the week!
Nice score. Re-label?
 

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Wow, not often you see roulette chips made on the LCV mold. Probably not much depth left to re-label, but plenty good enough to play with once cleaned.

Wonder if they were made by C&J or Paulson. Referenced timeline in the auction would indicate C&J....
 

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Got the chips today. Al things considered, thy are in great shape and will clean up nicely. Not the worst chips I've seen, that's for sure. The real gem is a barrel of near mint horizon blue LCV's...awesome!

My only gripe - there are only 99 of the browns... /OCDRage

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Steal of the year.

I'll sell you a brown chip for $50. #andyoudgladlypayitiftrue
 

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incredible stuff for the price you've paid,
congratz for the move
 

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Price paid, materials and time added up into making these beauties shine and you'll still make out waaaaaaaaaaaay ahead! Good luck and Really looking forward to the after pics! :)
 

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Never seen the injection nipple on LCV's before. Has anyone ever seen that?

Sweet score, What are your plans for them?
 

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That is very odd, indeed. Don't recall ever seeing that on any LCV chips until now.
 

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I think these are C&J chips. Hats look taller. I can't tell if the canes are longer. Can you measure the canes?
 

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I will measure tomorrow. Who/what is C&J?

Christy and Jones. They were the original owners of the TH&C mold. They can generally be distinguished from the Paulson chips because as a newer mold the TH&C creates a shiny impression.
 

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As stated earlier, the referenced timeline in the auction would indicate these were produced by C&J. But I don't remember seeing dots-in-hats on any THC chips before, no matter who made them....
 

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First time I'm seeing it, too.

I don't think they're injection points - even if these were actually plastic injected and not pressed clay, those are not good locations; you would not put the injection points there, for several reasons.

I suspect these were made on a drilled-out or purposes-made hat & cane die, perhaps to intentionally differentiate roulettes from cash checks?
 

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Actually, I have seen injection points in similar locations on other chips (round peg in square hole).

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But your 'differentiate' point is a very good one. I suspect that there is someone on the ChipBoard who knows, or has seen these types of chips before.
 

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Actually, I have seen injection points in similar locations on other chips (round peg in square hole).

But your 'differentiate' point is a very good one. I suspect that there is someone on the ChipBoard who knows, or has seen these types of chips before.

This is driving me nuts. There's no injection in a compression process, far as I know.

Even if the preliminary blanks are produced with injection to make the spotted blank out even a solid blank, when it goes into the dies for compression molding, any pips would disappear. If pips from injection remain, they were never pressed - or the pips were part of the mold design.

I just checked all my casino Paulson and my Fun Nites. No pip marks.

Did Paulson ever play with injection molding some other material chips instead of compressing "clay?"
 

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A few more details on these.

It is *highly* doubtful these were used mid-century in Kentucky. This is not the shiny-hat C&J mold, and the Paulson H&C mold didn't come into production until 1965. All the KY gambling halls were closed by the time the Paulson H&C mold was around, and I could find no example of a KY casino using a H&C chip of any kind. In short, very likely not KY, and definitely not pre-1965. I don't care that they aren't from KY nor do I care that they are post-1965, but I've reached out to the seller just to see where the story came from, and to see if I can track it back any further.

The mold, look, feel, chip composition, wear, and even staining patterns on the edge - they all point to a Paulson-made chip. I've handled a number of H&C knockoffs, and these don't feel or wear the same If these are fakes, they are the best fakes I've ever handled. Others on The Chip Board/chip collector's club also agree that they are Paulson. There are a few skeptics, but most agree that they are legit.

The pips, unfortunately, remain a mystery. If they are Paulson, I speculate that they are either a) early production line copies, or b) intended to indicate they were for home/non-legal casino usage. I would lean towards A because some chips have them and some don't., and those that do only have them on one side. I suspect that these were from early cups/hobs, and that the pipped variety weren't discovered until some chips went out the door. Paulson's never been great about matching their H&C molds from side to side...this could just be one more instance of that trend.
 
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