Cash Game 5c/10c using a $3chip (1 Viewer)

[Roslindale]

I am pondering the idea of creating a cash set for use in a small stakes cash game. We normally play tournaments here, however a cash game on occasion does get in. One of the big complaints I got on the cash games is that they got out of control with betting sizes. A 10c/25c game eventually turned into 50c/$1.

To help keep the game from getting out of hand, I would like to creat a chip set with the following breakdown:
5c
25c
$1
$3
$9(possibly)

My thinking is to have a $20 buy in, and a max re-buy of $40.

Any thoughts on this or experience with this chip breakdown?

 

[LeLe]

Maybe 5c/25c/$1/$5 & $10 rather than $3 & 9

$5 and $10 are easier for buyin at $20-40 and easier to count when cashing out or glare at stack size

 

[Roslindale]

I have that set up already with the $5.
I found the 5's to increase the bet size..

I haven't tried the $3.. but I wonder if others have before in here?

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

@Ben8257

 

[davislane]

10c/50c/$2/$10

 

[Roslindale]

10c/50c/$2/$10

What buy in's do you use?

I'm assuming this is for a 10c/20c game.

 

[LeLe]

I used to play 5c/10c with friend and family using breakdown
5c/20c/$1/$5/$10

The game eventually changed to 10/20c after that with breakdown
10c/50c/$1/$5/$20

I believe you can play in any denomination as you like as long as it work

I seem people who make housemold Vega set , in their set they used $3 in the relabel micro stake but i think it more of a cost efficient thing

 

[davislane]

What buy in's do you use?

I'm assuming this is for a 10c/20c game.

10c/10c or 10c/20c

 

[Mr_Y3RAC]

Also building a Set with 10ct/50ct/$2/$10 chips for Buy ins ranging from $10-$40 or even 50 if you feel like it.

 

[OfficerLovejoy]

Also building a Set with 10ct/50ct/$2/$10 chips for Buy ins ranging from $10-$40 or even 50 if you feel like it.

 

[Roslindale]

Seems to ba a consensus on the 10c/20c set up.

I'll have to put more thought into this it seems.

 

[chipinla]

My CPC sets are 25¢, $1, $5, $20… hear me out because I know a lot of people don’t agree with using chips for a value that it doesn’t say. If necessary for a lower stakes game I just make the $1 valued at 10¢… nothing else changes. 10¢, 25¢, $5, $20… I have enough of each chip to cover that. And with a 4 chip set even the smallest brain at the table can grasp the concept of the $1 being 10¢… and even then the $20 rarely sees the table. So it’s essentially 3 chips.

 

[LeLe]

I did what @chipinla most of the time as it Hard (by hard i mean EXPENSIVE) to get low fracs denomination in Clay or High end Plastic.

1/10th of the value is what I did as well

$1/$5/$20/$100 is the perfect denomination for 1/10th 10/20c stake game

 

[chipinla]

I did what @chipinla most of the time as it Hard (by hard i mean EXPENSIVE) to get low fracs denomination in Clay or High end Plastic.

1/10th of the value is what I did as well

$1/$5/$20/$100 is the perfect denomination for 1/10th 10/20c stake game

Exactly. I’m always curious what stakes people play. Especially when people are buying casino sets. With $1, $5, $25, $100, $500, $1000 etc denoms. If they aren’t being relabeled (which I know most aren’t). What are people doing with them? I don’t want to judge or assume but I can’t imagine 99% of people in here need $500, $1000, or $5000 chips on the table.

 

[Craig D]

This is my $20 buyin cash set

I use mix and match chips, it is all I could afford (real chips cost real money)

A mint roulette chip as 10c, then mint Casino chips 50c, $1s, $5s, and fantasy $20 plaques. The $5s almost never get used, all the roulettes and 50c chips are always in play along with some $1s and a few plaques

I don't think my players could deal with $2 and $10 chips, so the efficient chip bank breakdown was not used. If you and your players can, you need fewer chips

 

[Roslindale]

This is my $20 buyin cash set

I use mix and match chips, it is all I could afford (real chips cost real money)

A mint roulette chip as 10c, then mint Casino chips 50c, $1s, $5s, and fantasy $20 plaques. The $5s almost never get used, all the roulettes and 50c chips are always in play along with some $1s and a few plaques

I don't think my players could deal with $2 and $10 chips, so the efficient chip bank breakdown was not used. If you and your players can, you need fewer chips

Thank you for this.
I have similar experience in some ways.

My goal is to use the chips. I have so many $5's. When they get used, it ups the pot so much. I use the 5's for making change on the rebuys.
I think a $3 chip will keep it manageable for a longer period of time.
I just wonder if others already do use one?

 

[SteveEH]

I don't know if I understand the OP. Do u mean your 10c/25c game plays like a 50c/$1 game (e.g. open raises are $5) or the players agree to raise the blinds throughout the night? Do u want to change the blinds to 5c/10c?

 

[Roslindale]

I don't know if I understand the OP. Do u mean your 10c/25c game plays like a 50c/$1 game (e.g. open raises are $5) or the players agree to raise the blinds throughout the night? Do u want to change the blinds to 5c/10c?

My 10c/25c game turned into a much bigger game.. as the night went, it became 25c/50c and opening bets were $2to$5. Some people were turned off by this.
I'm sure a big problem was, I let people re-buy for $100 (original buy was $40).
We usually play tournaments. Ony a few times have we done cash. Many mostly enjoyed the cash too, but are hesitant to have it again because of it getting out of control.

 

[SteveEH]

I have so many $5's. When they get used, it ups the pot so much.

Sounds like umplayers are making $5 bets cause they don't have change? If that's the case just get more quarters and $1 chips. More chips more fun.

My set was designed for 10c/25c and I don't have $5 chips. If budget is a concern you could always get a bigger rebuy chip and still have lots of quarters and dollars.

 

[Roslindale]

Sounds like umplayers are making $5 bets cause they don't have change? If that's the case just get more quarters and $1 chips. More chips more fun.

My set was designed for 10c/25c and I don't have $5 chips. If budget is a concern you could always get a bigger rebuy chip and still have lots of quarters and dollars.

You are pretty spot on in your assessment of what happened.
I have bought more ones since. I would like to be giving out barrels of $1's for change. Maybe that will be the solution.. limiting the re-buy amount to a lower amount and having the $1's to give out in making change.

 

[SteveEH]

My 10c/25c game turned into a much bigger game.. as the night went, it became 25c/50c and opening bets were $2to$5. Some people were turned off by this.
I'm sure a big problem was, I let people re-buy for $100 (original buy was $40).
We usually play tournaments. Ony a few times have we done cash. Many mostly enjoyed the cash too, but are hesitant to have it again because of it getting out of control.

If you want a sustainable game I'd recommend finding out how much each of your players want to gamble over the night and set the stakes on the average, making sure that each player can buy in X times minimum (depending on how your game plays). Allow for a range of buy ins e.g. $10-$40 but don't change them.

 

[Marc Hedrick]

I don't think that changing the denominations on the chips will have much of an impact on how big the game plays. Buy-in amount, blinds, and the type of players you have will effect that much more. Give me 20 $3 chips or six $10 chips, I'm still gonna bet the same amount relative to the blinds.

If you're concerned about capping the size of raises, maybe consider a spread limit game. Blinds are .10/.25 with a 25 cent to 5 dollar spread limit or something like that. It will play much differently, but will keep the losses to a minimum.

 

[Craig D]

Thank you for this.
I have similar experience in some ways.

My goal is to use the chips. I have so many $5's. When they get used, it ups the pot so much. I use the 5's for making change on the rebuys.
I think a $3 chip will keep it manageable for a longer period of time.
I just wonder if others already do use one?

Having lots of $1s could help (I have 520 $1s). You could relabel the $5s as $1s, and label your $1s as $20s many, many of us relabel chips to meet our needs, this is an example of me relabeling $1s as $1000s to save money on my tourney set

 

[LeLe]

I let people re-buy for $100 (original buy was $40).

I think this is the problem, from a $40 which is 160bb at 10/25c to $100 which is 400bb at 10/25c stake

This instantly become deep stack cash game and deep stack play much differently from 100bb regular game

More Buffing more 3! 4! higher opening raise

 

[Gunnar]

First for a 10/25 game that is running high to fast I would set the buy in at 30$ and rebuy 30$ - up to half the big stack.

120BB is a good start for cash games. But you also need to think the stack breakdown.

If you use 5c 25c 1$ and 5$
I would start with 10x5c 14x25c 16x$ 2x5$

Rebuy 20x1$ and then 5$s

 

[lewan]

$0.05 - $0.25 - $1 - $2.50

 

[Ben8257]

So how about, a $3 chip is ok. I like a $2 chip for micro but not for efficiency just because they are fun and get more chips in play. Don't like snappers in a "poker" set, only like a $10 chip when you are short on $5s. A $9 chip?? Why 3x value? Why not 4 - 5 like most chip increment increase... IE $12 OR $15? But also you are just getting weird now.

If you have players that don't like the aggression then never let those gas pedal guys back in for $100 on a $40 buy in... eventually the good players will keep taking it and they will want more and more. $200 - $400... it doesn't stop, they just think they can roll over the little guys. Limit it to $40 each time rather they like it or not for the sake of the little guys (if that's what you care about for the sake of fun/social poker) stick with normal denoms as like @Marc Hedrick said. Doesn't matter what's on the chips... they will get the hang of the denoms, just going to be an annoying pain in the ass but they will catch on and continue with the gas pedal.

For the record $.05/$.10 plays too small and not many
will be interested. $.10/$.20 PL is awesome for mixed games but would be boring for Holdem. $.25/$.50 is the smallest that just holdem should be played to keep the medium between nickle dime players and action seeking goofs at bay... but no matter what. Just like in life, you will never please everyone. You decide what's right for your game!

We are playing a $.25/$.50 pot limit game tonoght... it will likely play $5 - $6 preflop for the first hour... after that they call a game called Sviten and you will not see a flop for less than $40! Period and often 4 - 5 players in the pot... imagine the pot size at show down... I will take some pictures later but you can just imagine as the Banker is quite busy! It is $100 max buy in but these guys have was of $100s ready to go! My question is how the hell is that a $.25/$.50 game? Should be $2/$5... absolutely not what it is advertised as, but again the host likes it and that's the game! If it's too much for you, time to find a new game!

Last note, if playing mixed games with lots of split pots... the less denoms in play the better for spilling pots. If playing holdem, play what you want but I would try to keep it to 4 denoms until later when you value chips come in for rebuys.

Ben

 

[Roslindale]

Thanks Ben.
I do want to learn different games and be able to offer them. Even if only two others, I think the change would do us well Herr.
Makes sense about the 5c/10c. It never seems to catch on when I offer it..

 

[Bluegrass Poker]

Exactly. I’m always curious what stakes people play. Especially when people are buying casino sets. With $1, $5, $25, $100, $500, $1000 etc denoms. If they aren’t being relabeled (which I know most aren’t). What are people doing with them? I don’t want to judge or assume but I can’t imagine 99% of people in here need $500, $1000, or $5000 chips on the table.

You said “need.”

 

[Ben8257]

You said “need.”

Lmao... for the record, never had more than $4,500 on a cash table playing stakes we are comfortable with... but have $10k in $25s in this set... just in case, and also helps as fillers in the chip case!

Only $100 we ever had in play was because someone requested it! Haha

"Need" seriously LMAO... the best poker memories I have were with a set of plastic interlocking Bicycle chips in one of those spinning carousels, the whole set was $2 at a yard sale, 3 colors... and it absolutely got the job done with our group foe years!

This is absolutely a "first world luxury hobby if there ever was such a thing!" There are several chips right now that I am hunting that cost $30 - $40 each! Many in the $20 range... do we really "need" any of this?