Native Lights Casino Primary Chip Sale (24 Viewers)
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Garth
Sitting Out
I am about to pull the trigger on a few racks of 1's here, just curious...can i put one of gears labels over this inlay?
I don't have my sample set yet, but based on the type of chip these are, I'm 99% sure the answer is yes.
Garth
Sitting Out
Thanks Gear.
Garth
Sitting Out
Alright, I have ordered.
WedgeRock
Royal Flush
This.
I'd venture to say most of us (not all) have never gotten a $500 chip in to play in a cash game. And since larger denoms were not available to make a tournament set, the only utilitarian purpose for the $500 chips is possibly for a relabel.
The irony.
I'd argue hard against those points all day long. A $500 chip is an integral part of a T5-base tournament set, and there are PLENTY of existing tourney sets made from casino cash sets that top out at $500. President Casino Admiral is just one of many that pops to mind immediately. For many T5 tourney sets, a barrel (or two, depending on size) of $500 chips is plenty. Needing larger denomination chips from the same casino to make a tournament set is simply not true, and implying that wanting or needing them reflects greed is pretty short-sighted, imo.
And it doesn't even consider it's use in mixed-casino sets. Lots of those out there, too... cash and tourney sets.
And for the record, I did not attempt to buy any of the chips in this sale, as I generally don't purchase RHC chips any longer. But if I had, it would have been for a T5-base tourney set...... which would have needed $500 chips.
WedgeRock
Royal Flush
That's a fair point. I was considering T500 as the smallest chip in a tournament, but you're right. Lots of structures use (or can use) T500 chips on the high end. And yes, if the OCD has been cured, mixed casino sets can be made.
ssanel54
Flush
Agreed, and this was the basis on how Jim structured his sale. However in a T5 structure, how many T500s does one need?
I have no clue how the buyers intend to use the $500 chips that were purchased, and I don't really care. Could be relabels, mixed set, tourney set, whatever. The point is if it wasn't the person who did separate invoices, they most likely would have all gone to the next person in line. I can't imagine that if they had not gone to only 2 people that there would have been plenty to go around for everyone. I also imagine if there was no limit on the $500s then someone would have tried to buy them all. Maybe greed is a strong word, but I think most people, if given the opportunity to be first in line, would buy the maximum number of the most rare chips that they could afford, and still probably work behind the scenes to figure out how to buy more.
GoStumpy
Flush
THIS.
People can be arguing until the cows come home about how someone 'bent the rules', at the end of the day, with the limits that were in place, they were going to the first couple people that purchased chips using the "percentage limits" imposed by Jim. There was no huge BS order that screwed everybody out of $500 chips, there was so few $500 chips almost everyone wasn't going to get any anyway. So why be bothered or upset about it...? Just my opinion
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Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
I have one Base T5 set, and it needs 50 T500s.
I'm happy to say that I did not even attempt to pick up any chips from this sale, so my opinions are completely without sour grapes. But the opinions expressed by others here kind of clearly lay out why Jim does not sell the chips as sets. If he tries to divvy them up, someone would be left moaning how there weren't any good sets available.
After much thought, Jim handled it the best way possible. Perhaps he should have charged more to temper demand, I don't really know. I do know that he got what he was asking, so hurrah to him and to those lucky few that won the 500 lotto. It's a beautiful chip, and we should be happy when they post pics of those chips in play.
Seriously, many people spend money on raffles and lose, but immediately follow it up with "Congratulations X!" Why can't we be happy for the few that bought these chips? Why complain and drive the other chips to eBay?
Now I'm afraid I'll never see those other sets in play.
MacGrad
3 of a Kind
As a general rule, are we allowed to get the pitchforks if they speak of relabelling the $500s?
Ha. I dunno. They're pretty, but ridiculously rare chips from a tiny no-name casino might end up being more obscure than rare.As a general rule, are we allowed to get the pitchforks if they speak of relabelling the $500s?
I hope the couple-few buyers enjoy them in good health and we never see them again.
That is what I was trying for, then I messed up my minimums without the $500s (stupid math) and then didn't understand the requirement for ordering (I thought once minimums met fair game for other orders).
As a first timer for these sales I found the purchase process confusing especially with the posted strategies in this thread pre-sale and what I had read in other sales (not that familiar with PayPal cart).
I REALLY appreciate Jim doing this sale though and am OK with the shipping penalties I had. I now know for the future.
Grant
GoStumpy
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Yeah you can only plan so much until the Paypal cart comes into play, next time you'll figure it out much easier This was only my second Jim-Sale and I felt far more comfortable this time around!
This was only my second Jim-Sale and I felt far more comfortable this time around!
Yeah you can only plan so much until the Paypal cart comes into play, next time you'll figure it out much easier
Reminded me of when I had to register for University classes using the phone (dating myself), re-try, re-try, re-try. I kept hoping someone had locked up the $500s with an invalid order and some were going to be kicked back (I'm sure i wasn't alone).
I actually hit a bug where if you didn't remove the $500s from your cart and tried to complete the sale it came up with a "The store is down for maintenance" error screen. Took me too long to figure that one out!
GoStumpy
Flush
Yeah me too LOL
I don't know how I managed to get a rack of quarters after all that paypal shitshow
I don't know how I managed to get a rack of quarters after all that paypal shitshow
I also did not buy anything but a sample, but here is my "unasked for comment".
If I was buying 2000 chips, as I was seriously considering, I want full racks, not a barrel, because it is what I want, not need. I don't "NEED" anything but dice chips, my "WANTS" are multiple big sets of quality chips or playable casino sets.
I don't need to justify my obsessions or wants, it's whatever my brain and wallet can convince each other of.
Look, I get it, I wanted an awesome Cleveland set, did not get anything in that sale, it happens. I did not bitch and moan (well, maybe a little) but FAIR was never a complaint. So, next set to come up was Cincinnati, priced higher so guess what, I got all I wanted, and have been able to scoop some up from others at a lower price or buy additional from The Chip Exchange as I needed to fill racks or get $1000s (which I also did not need but wanted).
LIFE IS NOT FAIR, get used to it. This thread has been 4 pages of anticipation followed by 8 pages of bitching.
Time to move on.
If I was buying 2000 chips, as I was seriously considering, I want full racks, not a barrel, because it is what I want, not need. I don't "NEED" anything but dice chips, my "WANTS" are multiple big sets of quality chips or playable casino sets.
I don't need to justify my obsessions or wants, it's whatever my brain and wallet can convince each other of.
Look, I get it, I wanted an awesome Cleveland set, did not get anything in that sale, it happens. I did not bitch and moan (well, maybe a little) but FAIR was never a complaint. So, next set to come up was Cincinnati, priced higher so guess what, I got all I wanted, and have been able to scoop some up from others at a lower price or buy additional from The Chip Exchange as I needed to fill racks or get $1000s (which I also did not need but wanted).
LIFE IS NOT FAIR, get used to it. This thread has been 4 pages of anticipation followed by 8 pages of bitching.
Time to move on.
Who would have thought that a poker community might angle shoot in a chip room sale...
Matt G
3 of a Kind
Received shipping info today. Thank you Jim for making these available to us.
$500's on their way!! (LOL!! I wish) but am looking forward to getting cash set into play.
Looking for some good chips to relabel. It will all work out.
$500's on their way!! (LOL!! I wish) but am looking forward to getting cash set into play.
Looking for some good chips to relabel. It will all work out.
FDLmold
Royal Flush
Shipping notice received here as well. I am one state away, so I may get them tomorrow.
Are those $1s all gone yet? Ready for the Tonkawa mayhem since I missed this one
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
Sort of... angle shooting the rules seems to be the primary issue...
Am I correct in reading that people are cracking it because some added the high denoms first then added the lower denoms to balance out the requirements?
If so, what's the problem? Kudos to people for using their head. It's what I would have done. I just figured this was common practice.
If so, what's the problem? Kudos to people for using their head. It's what I would have done. I just figured this was common practice.
MacGrad
3 of a Kind
Read Jim's posts on the issue.
When the vendor selling the chips says there's an issue and violation of the rules, then it's pretty easy to see what the problem is.
WedgeRock
Royal Flush
The issue is that they added 500's and checked out. Then created a new transaction, got the chips that balanced the percentage requirements, then checked out again.
Meddler2
Full House
And now the issue is that those of us that had skipped this sale in hopes of buying the secondary Native Lights are SOL now thanks to a couple of greedy individuals that intentionally violated the rules of the sale. Whether they posted their intentions prior to the start of the sale is irrelevant.
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