How has your Home Game evolved? Here’s mine (3 Viewers)

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Hey guys! So I’ve been on the forum for almost 2 years or so, and have learned a lot from members here, especially how to be a considerate host and keep a game running. I thought I’d share the evolution of my game, where it started and where it’s at now. I’d love to hear about your guys’ journey as well

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My first “official” full-table game was when I met @GoJo_Dingo, playing on a square table with a 60”x60” very thin poker mat. The poker gods blessed me for my endeavors with quads (this was before we knew PLO existed). All 8 seats were filled, and PCF helped me to find affordable chips (Milanos), a step up from the Monte Carlos I eventually gifted my friend. Stakes were .25/.25, and winning everyone’s money made me happy 😃

@GoJo_Dingo was a great guest, and between us and our shared player pool we started hosting somewhat regular games, usually at his place since his table was way cooler and his chairs way comfier than mine.
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I upgraded my chips to a DDLM set, using the less common .10/.50/2/10/50breakdown, with plaques for the $10 and $50 (thank you @Okku for helping with the custom $50 plaque!), and despite the low .10/.20 stakes we’ve seen the $50 plaques in play
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Since MOAR chips, I also got many dozen $20 plaques, and a new DDLM 43mm set with standard breakdown of chips starting at .25.

Around this time @goeckerd started showing up frequently, and our core group is about 4-5 players with another 8 or so that we bug monthly to fill up the seats lol. Oh, and speaking of seats I upgraded to a Triton octagon for play at my new place, and though I’d prefer a round table, I am perfectly happy and content with this bad boy

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To keep interest and excitement high, I decided my monthly game should be on UFC fight nights, it makes it more of an event for our non-regulars. We’ve been regularly seating 6-8, which is the sweet spot for a guy like me (I tolerate 9 players, and hate 10 player tables, I dislike how much have to tighten up to compensate). I like to have some hot dogs or pizza ready for the guys, and guests bring some snacks, too, which are always appreciated. I set up a second TV in the room so that everyone can see the fights, and also use them plus a strategically placed iPad to show tournament levels and blinds on the off chance we run a turbo.

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My hopes for my game: to keep building it, we have 4-5 regulars and another 4-5 semi-regs, and others who pop in when they can. In my eyes, we’re off to great start, and I’m hoping for a monthly tournament game to start a league and give my brain something fun to keep track of. A solid 8 regs would be awesome.

We play in Indianapolis, stakes are usually .10/.20 or .25/.25, unlimited rebuys and match half-the-stack (we prefer the degeneracy to slowly amp up). At our lower stakes, we keep the game patient and friendly for any newcomers, a lot of grace, and bad vibes / negative spirit is not tolerated or welcome, and hasn’t ever been a problem here at home!
 
I’m 51 and started a long time ago. My started hosting a regular game around 1999/2000 and was .25/.50 seven card stud on the kitchen table with cheap plastic chips and paper cards. Mainly my childhood friends and some old guys from my buddies family

I live near AC and limit hold’em started gaining steam. Around 2001-2 I made a felted and padded poker table out of my Grandparents old kitchen table (I still have it and will actually use it for over flow this weekend for the first time in 20+ years). Moved to .50/1 limit holdem with diamond chips that everyone thought were a major improvement and a deck of Kem cards I had to order form a place in Vegas! My game was attracting more serious card players and the many of the casual ones dropped off

When Borgata opened I was 27 and most of us were playing their $2/4 or $3/6 limit holdem game… so that became the my regular game with a $60/100 buyin

By the end of 2002 I made enough money from poker to buy my first set of ASM (now CPC) chips. My buddy found out about them in a magazine article on a plane. I think it was titled “gifts for the guy who has everything” 🤣. They also advertised that they made the chips for the movie Rounders. Me and three of my other buddies all bought sets..originally cash sets but them added tournament chips when the poker boom happened with Moneymaker throughout 2003 and 2004.

I also built a nice table with a padded rail and racetrack (popular at the time) with my grandfather on 2004

Borgata and others in AC began spreading cash no limit hold’em in 2005 and everyone wanted to play that all of a sudden. I was skeptical that I could keep my weekly game going with this, but I begrudgingly switched. We started with $1/2 $150 max at first then bumped it to $300 (casinos at the time were $300 max). As a suspected people busted out and all of a sudden couldn’t make the next game 🙄. The game went from weekly to monthly to every few months to a couple times a year. We were running from 2003 through 2009 thirty person no limit hold them tournaments while this is going on however.

Many of us started having kids in the game kind of fell apart. Around 2016 I started a lower stakes game with the neighbors. .25/50 NL with $50 max.

Eventually, I started accumulating some new players and connecting with older ones. I brought back a monthly game at .50/1 then $1/1 max $120. This game has been growing since then and I’ve been getting full tables using Evite within hours of posting the game. I found that this is absolutely the perfect stakes for a regular game. Some of my long time players want to go higher, but I’ve told them we will do something separate for that. I don’t want the regulars to think we are raising the stakes and lose them.

Added casino grade swivel chairs in 2023 and a few other custom poker chip sets via BR Pro and Tina since then as well. Also 50 set ups representing every brand of plastic cards made!. Also recently added a Deckmate 1…which is simply amazing to have if you can swing it.

My biggest advice is to always be recruiting (people you know and/or through friends) and keep the stakes reasonable. I highly recommend $1/1 $120-150 max (I use $120 do give two even barrels of chips)
 
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Over the years of efforts and recruitment, I have had to distinguish between two crews:
-Genuine friends of old, not really well-read in poker, whom I 'd love to play with as frequently as possible. Problem is they have lives (basically, under-age children), and are rarely available. We play .5/.5 with 50E max buy-in.
-Poker aficionados, friends of friends and acquiantances and eventual poker buddies, who are available any day of the week and any time of the day, but, not only are they strong players, but they also have committed money into this game (bankrolls, so semi-pros). We play deep-ish .5/1E, buy-in 100E or half the big stack. I still love the (sometimes costly) education and extreme entertainment.

Only two or three people are interchangeable between the two crews.
 
Over the years of efforts and recruitment, I have had to distinguish between two crews:
-Genuine friends of old, not really well-read in poker, whom I 'd love to play with as frequently as possible. Problem is they have lives (basically, under-age children), and are rarely available. We play .5/.5 with 50E max buy-in.
-Poker aficionados, friends of friends and acquiantances and eventual poker buddies, who are available any day of the week and any time of the day, but, not only are they strong players, but they also have committed money into this game (bankrolls, so semi-pros). We play deep-ish .5/1E, buy-in 100E or half the big stack. I still love the (sometimes costly) education and extreme entertainment.

Only two or three people are interchangeable between the two crews.
For years I have always said I have two groups as well…my poker friends and my friends I play poker with. Some are in both groups though
 
All home games follow this path of evolution:

Phase 1: No limit holdem tournaments
Phase 2: Low stakes NLHE cash games
Phase 3: Higher limit NLHE cash games
Phase 4: NLHE + PLO cash games
Phase 5: PLO only cash games + circus
Phase 6: Flips for rolls
 
All home games follow this path of evolution:

Phase 1: No limit holdem tournaments
Phase 2: Low stakes NLHE cash games
Phase 3: Higher limit NLHE cash games
Phase 4: NLHE + PLO cash games
Phase 5: PLO only cash games + circus
Phase 6: Flips for rolls

Me, convincing my poor cousins to try circus games:
 
All home games follow this path of evolution:

Phase 1: No limit holdem tournaments
Phase 2: Low stakes NLHE cash games
Phase 3: Higher limit NLHE cash games
Phase 4: NLHE + PLO cash games
Phase 5: PLO only cash games + circus
Phase 6: Flips for rolls
I’m 51. 2003 seems like 5 years ago. Tournament poker still seems like the new trend to me 😂

For many Gen X it went like this

Phase 1 - goofy dealers choice circus games with wild cards when you are a kid (with actual coins and dollar bills) and through to college (living large with drug store chips) . I could never follow these games and thus didn’t really like poker until later 😂
Phase 2 - low stakes straight poker - stud prior to Rounders coming out in 1998 then slowly adopting holdem
Phase 3 - low stakes limit holdem
Phase 4 - “I guess we have to start doing tournaments becasue all these people want to play NLHE”. Tournaments are pretty fun and it’s on TV 24/7
Phase 5 - casino stakes limit NL holdem cash between tournaments and after the tournaments
Phase 6 - tournament poker sucks..especially single table ones!…..cash is king again!
Phase 7 - there aren’t as many players anymore. Lower the stakes and get people that learned poker playing tournaments into cash
Phase 8 - “all the young guys are doing bomb pots and PLO …want to try that? Followed by 🤷🏻‍♂️ “meh”
 
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I think most peoples' answers will be a variation of a common theme: the perpetual acquisition of increasingly expensive gear - most of which only the host is excited about.
I often thought that but at my last game a discussion started about other games in the area and who had played at them etc. I was shocked when my oldest poker friend (highschool buddy and college roommate that got most of us into poker) who is quick to tease about all the extra “improvements” made a statement (paraphrasing) “I really have no interest in the other games. This is the best game. The nicest chairs, cards, chips, a freaking Deckmate…and a full bar, and I know everyone. If I’m going anywhere else it would be a casino”. Several made comments in agreement. I often get compliments on the game from different people…especially newer players.

For many outside our poker chip etc enthusiast community when you play in a well run game with nice chips tables, etc. it’s like staying at a Four Seasons for the first time. It’s not until you experience all that luxury that you realize that you feel you need it ….and all the flaws at other hotels you used to ignore now stand out.😉
 
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Our home cash game actually went down in stakes. We started as 25c/50c with a 20 dollar buy in, but some people would only buy in once or twice. So we realized after a few games that we could keep the game going a little longer at a 20 dollar buy-in if we reduced to 25c/25c. It also took us some time to realize that the big blind doesn't HAVE to be bigger than the small blind.
 
Our home cash game actually went down in stakes. We started as 25c/50c with a 20 dollar buy in, but some people would only buy in once or twice. So we realized after a few games that we could keep the game going a little longer at a 20 dollar buy-in if we reduced to 25c/25c. It also took us some time to realize that the big blind doesn't HAVE to be bigger than the small blind.
Mine did too

The fastest way to destroy a game is to raise the stakes. 20 years ago our game moved from $2/4 or $3/6 limit to NL $1/2 with a similar buyin to AC casinos at the time (lower than now) and it ruined it.

Every groups has a sweet spot. Too low and some lose interest or dont play seriously. To high and people only come once or twice a year.

I found that with my group (90% have been playing for a very long time and often play at casinos) that $1/1 $120 max is the absolute perfect stakes for a regular monthly game. I was doing .50/1 and actually had .50 chips but decided it was too much clutter and removed them.

I got some people to move up from .50/.50 $80 max and others to come down from $1/3 $500 and even $2/5 $1000. They all seem to enjoy the $1/1 $120.

I do have one long time player that always asks to raise the stakes and I’ve explained to him that I want play every month not once a year…which is how often his $2/5 home game ends up happening. He is a gambling type and every time he has a bad night I’ll say to him “see, you can still lose $800 at $1/1 $120 🤣

This player always asked to rebuy for more. For the longest time I never allowed more that $120 rebuy or top off. Never a “match the stack” which I feel just raises the stakes without increasing the blinds. I tell everyone we play Borgata rules (our home casino since it opened) but there was so much money on the table last week I may have to come up and alternative. I was allowing $200 half way through the night as the average stack was over $400
 
Inherited .25/.50 hold 'em game from a host who moved deep into the 'burbs. Started in my garage, or at my dining table if the family was out of town with a topper. Tiki kings first chips purchased for a first game, advised by the @Hobbyphilic videos like so many others during that time.

Game became regular, started hosting the occassional tournament. Tournament clock on a laptop dragged out to the garage. Dealt with all the 'new game' issues - last minute flakes, struggling to fill seats.

Moved, built a dedicated poker space in the new house and upgraded to real tables and chairs. Started recruiting more actively. 2 out of 5 new players stick for the long term - something like that ratio or so.

Host a 40th birthday tournament and invite a lot of local PCFers - game expands.

Start a tournament league with a championship.

Start an annual WSOP trip to vegas. First year just me. Second year 4 people. A few years later, this year we have 11. Serious FOMO from those not going.

Introduce circus games. People hate them. Have to cancel the first two circus nights due to lack of interest.

Set up a mavens site for online during Covid. Kids learn to play.

Circus nights finally take, add a "big boy" game at higher stakes occasionally (just $1/$1).

Build a culture - ton of jokes, whether its boner pills, AI songs (and music videos, even I went slightly over the line :) ), "REEVERED AGEEEEEEEN", yakking Jim, or "don't pet the cat".

Wall peed on, table nutted on, old man violently attacked.

Waitlist 5 deep for this Thursday. No one bailing out on their seat so some people outta luck.

Smattering of pictures below.

OLD HOUSE
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NEW HOUSE - 40th B-Day Event
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Cash or Tourney Shennanigans
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I think most peoples' answers will be a variation of a common theme: the perpetual acquisition of increasingly expensive gear - most of which only the host is excited about.
A propper poker table, comfortable chairs and good flood-lighting are always very much appreciated.

As for cards, you can't really go wrong with any major-brand fully plastic deck.

Chips are appreciated by a small minority of players only.
Even those few people could live without fancy chips. I 've tried to convince a couple of appreciative friends to buy high-end chips themselves too, and the reply has been "chips-wise, we 've got you asshole, anyway" :)
 
A propper poker table, comfortable chairs and good flood-lighting are always very much appreciated.

As for cards, you can't really go wrong with any major-brand fully plastic deck.

Chips are appreciated by a small minority of players only.
Even those few people could live without fancy chips. I 've tried to convince a couple of appreciative friends to buy high-end chips themselves too, and the reply has been "chips-wise, we 've got you asshole, anyway" :)
Custom/quality chips do get noticed but to the average players, the cards and table are more important…then the chairs. The people I play with are savvy enough to recognize paper cards suck and are not appropriate for serious poker. They would all be disappointed if those last three were gone…they wouldn’t care it I used dice chips though 🤣
 
All home games follow this path of evolution:

Phase 1: No limit holdem tournaments
Phase 2: Low stakes NLHE cash games
Phase 3: Higher limit NLHE cash games
Phase 4: NLHE + PLO cash games
Phase 5: PLO only cash games + circus
Phase 6: Flips for rolls
Do you have any links to threads that breaks down all of these? We gave only ever played tournaments. So I guess I gave been of phase 1 for several years. We have not tried any of the other phases. lol. circus games Sounds fun. And for cash games. Are we talking 5c and 10c. And NHLE is Texas Holden but just like a smaller buy in
 
Do you have any links to threads that breaks down all of these? We gave only ever played tournaments. So I guess I gave been of phase 1 for several years. We have not tried any of the other phases. lol. circus games Sounds fun. And for cash games. Are we talking 5c and 10c. And NHLE is Texas Holden but just like a smaller buy in

NLHE = No Limit Hold 'Em
PLO = Pot Limit Omaha

"Low Stakes" can be whatever you want, but typically it's where the blinds are less than $1/$2, most here seem to play 25¢/50¢.

Personally I've only progressed through the first 2 phases. Started with $20 buy-in tourneys back in the Moneymaker days. Progressed to 25¢/50¢ cash game with $50 buy-in. Now at 25¢/50¢ $100 buy-in (because, inflation).
 
NLHE = No Limit Hold 'Em
PLO = Pot Limit Omaha

"Low Stakes" can be whatever you want, but typically it's where the blinds are less than $1/$2, most here seem to play 25¢/50¢.

Personally I've only progressed through the first 2 phases. Started with $20 buy-in tourneys back in the Moneymaker days. Progressed to 25¢/50¢ cash game with $50 buy-in. Now at 25¢/50¢ $100 buy-in (because, inflation).
Awesome. Thank you. So I defiantly need to get a cash set that’s starts with 25c. Got it 😃
But with the 25c/50c. With cash games. There are just the normal bb and sm but there will be no blind increase. Correct?
 
Awesome. Thank you. So I defiantly need to get a cash set that’s starts with 25c. Got it 😃
But with the 25c/50c. With cash games. There are just the normal bb and sm but there will be no blind increase. Correct?

Correct, blinds do not increase in a cash game, that's a tournament thing. The blinds in a cash game, along with the max buy-in are what determine the stakes. Stakes are important; you don't want stakes too low to not be interesting enough to your players, but you also don't want them too high where players lose more than they can afford. Both scenarios can kill a game.
 
Do you have any links to threads that breaks down all of these? We gave only ever played tournaments. So I guess I gave been of phase 1 for several years. We have not tried any of the other phases. lol. circus games Sounds fun. And for cash games. Are we talking 5c and 10c. And NHLE is Texas Holden but just like a smaller buy in
The reality is that most home poker played in the US is holdem….either low buyin tournaments or cash. I follow a couple regional poker groups on Facebook that post games. 95% are holdem and maybe say 75% are cash. Once in a while you see a PLO game. Even in a casino most of the tables will be holdem. So don’t feel you need to try all these other games.

I highly suggest trying cash. It’s how poker was always played originally and is far better for a regular home game. As has been said before, the main benefit is people can come and go and you are never knocked out.

Start very low stakes as others have said and stick there until your players get used to it. I’ve never introduced a player who learned with tournaments…that didn’t end up liking cash much better. Some people may drop but you will get new people and I bet your game gets stronger and more reliable.
 
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Phase 1: Be broke ass college kids who party every weekend.

Phase 2: Get jobs. Become broke ass 20s playing video games every weekend.

Phase 3: Get some money and predictable schedules. Embrace full nerdom. Regular Dungeons and Dragons. Board games monthly.

Phase 4: Become a hardcore board and tabletop gaming group. Walls of games at our disposal. Online video games with friends who moved afar.

Phase 5: Get tired on paper money and cardboard tokens. Go looking for poker chips. One of us (*cough*) is sucked into a black hole.

Phase 6: Suddenly realize we have careers now with decent income. Rotating poker games and board game nights. Online video game and D&D sessions held multiple days per week.

Secret Phase 0: Meet your best friend in 1st grade, become blood brothers, and never stop nerding out and finding other nerds.
 
Phase 1: Be broke ass college kids who party every weekend.

Phase 2: Get jobs. Become broke ass 20s playing video games every weekend.

Phase 3: Get some money and predictable schedules. Embrace full nerdom. Regular Dungeons and Dragons. Board games monthly.

Phase 4: Become a hardcore board and tabletop gaming group. Walls of games at our disposal. Online video games with friends who moved afar.

Phase 5: Get tired on paper money and cardboard tokens. Go looking for poker chips. One of us (*cough*) is sucked into a black hole.

Phase 6: Suddenly realize we have careers now with decent income. Rotating poker games and board game nights. Online video game and D&D sessions held multiple days per week.

Secret Phase 0: Meet your best friend in 1st grade, become blood brothers, and never stop nerding out and finding other nerds.
Dungeons and Dragons are not part of standard evolution of a poker game. Something went wrong. Like with the Platapus.
 
Inherited .25/.50 hold 'em game from a host who moved deep into the 'burbs. Started in my garage, or at my dining table if the family was out of town with a topper. Tiki kings first chips purchased for a first game, advised by the @Hobbyphilic videos like so many others during that time.

Game became regular, started hosting the occassional tournament. Tournament clock on a laptop dragged out to the garage. Dealt with all the 'new game' issues - last minute flakes, struggling to fill seats.

Moved, built a dedicated poker space in the new house and upgraded to real tables and chairs. Started recruiting more actively. 2 out of 5 new players stick for the long term - something like that ratio or so.

Host a 40th birthday tournament and invite a lot of local PCFers - game expands.

Start a tournament league with a championship.

Start an annual WSOP trip to vegas. First year just me. Second year 4 people. A few years later, this year we have 11. Serious FOMO from those not going.

Introduce circus games. People hate them. Have to cancel the first two circus nights due to lack of interest.

Set up a mavens site for online during Covid. Kids learn to play.

Circus nights finally take, add a "big boy" game at higher stakes occasionally (just $1/$1).

Build a culture - ton of jokes, whether its boner pills, AI songs (and music videos, even I went slightly over the line :) ), "REEVERED AGEEEEEEEN", yakking Jim, or "don't pet the cat".

Wall peed on, table nutted on, old man violently attacked.

Waitlist 5 deep for this Thursday. No one bailing out on their seat so some people outta luck.

Smattering of pictures below.

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NEW HOUSE - 40th B-Day Event
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Cash or Tourney Shennanigans
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That’s awesome man! I love to see the growth and all the fellowship this game brings
 
Question: has anyone had success with two tables with different stakes? I might be filling up the second table this weekend, and have some less-experienced players that would stick around for more but-ins in a .10/.10 table
 
Stakes vary based on demographics. I currently play in a weekly 10 seat, $1/$2 NLHE game - $200 to $400 buy-in, $500 max re-buy. The game thrives because the number of active players waiting for an invite is greater than the number of seats.

I also play in a dealer's choice $5/$5 pot limit HE or pot limit Omaha game on Fridays. The buy-in is $200 to $500. Re-buys are capped at $500. The player pool isn't as deep, but the game has only been running for six months. We consistently seat 8 to 9 players.

Unlike the $1/$2 game which runs for six hours, the dealer's choice game is over in four to five hours due to an older crowd coupled with shallower pockets amongst a few of the players.

I have little doubt that I would be able to grow the player pool in the $5/$5 pot limit game if I took over hosting duties and switched the game to Thursday nights.

Ultimately, poker evolves to meet the comfort level of the players involved. Evolution comes more slowly when no one within a group plays outside their home game for higher stakes.

If you are rolled for it, go on a three or four day marathon session of playing $5/$10 PLO in a casino.

That will forever change your view of smaller stake NLHE home games.
 
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Dungeons and Dragons are not part of standard evolution of a poker game. Something went wrong. Like with the Platapus.
Disagree! Very viable convergent evolution path. Those stuck ensuring their Ranger hits on an AC21 can definitely calculate flush draw odds better than my apes.
 

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