Using AI to manage club analytics (2 Viewers)

[thePokerClub]

Curious to know how many here use AI to manage their club analytics.

I moved to this recently and it has gone well. Having a data background, I love managing data manually, but time savings from using AI has been game changing.

How do you manage your data? If you use AI, what are some successes you have had? Pitfalls to avoid? Best practices?

I published this today for my club for our current season. Initial output is ChatGPT here but will move it to Claude soon since that is more analytics/coding focused.

thePokerClub Race-to-100 Series Performance

A few examples in case anyone is worried that the link is bogus.

For clarity - the top example is overall club performance tracking to 100 point goal. The bottom example is an individualized scorecard on performance that players receive privately.

 

[Felt_Lizard]

 

[Machine]

Well, I wouldn't dox my players by listing their Sir names on a public forum.

I don't trust AI with much. I can't see how AI would save you time on the top graph. It's literally 11 datapoints assigned to an object, in this case, a person. It should have taken you 1 more minute to plot that graph with a background in data.

I find analytics fun as well, not sure how much players actually care about it though, judging off the cares most players give to chip material, it's likely a passion project

 

[thePokerClub]

Shoot guys, I forgot to caveat my questions with....

This post is meant for those that are not keyboard jockies bouncing between PCF and Reddit that actually look to do interesting things with their club data that make things more competitive in a league format.

 

[DrStrange]

Why would any host do this to their game? It would be fine to analyze your own performance in private, but to make graphically, publicly clear who the losers are and how bad they play seems like a poor idea if you want to keep your invite list filled.

I wouldn't do it. And I wouldn't be comfortable with a host doing it either -=- DrStrange

 

[thePokerClub]

Why would any host do this to their game? It would be fine to analyze your own performance in private, but to make graphically, publicly clear who the losers are and how bad they play seems like a poor idea if you want to keep your invite list filled.

I wouldn't do it. And I wouldn't be comfortable with a host doing it either -=- DrStrange

For further clarity on this, I modified my OP to call out that the first example is what I make public on the club site. The second example is a personalized scorecard for the season that players receive privately. That one specifically, is mine.

@DrStrange we are not a group of cash game randoms that come in and out. We all know each other prior to club formation...that is how it got started. Dads from school and kids sports.

For us, it is fun to see all of this so we can do what guys do best.....banter. Banter is a VERY important part of every club. And, we are not overly sensitive.

It is a shame that minds go immediately to the concern of negativity if people see someone's poor performance during a season.

What is also public is someone good performance. And my group loves to show off a bit. I have gotten referrals and requests to join all because of the level of detail we look into for the sake of banter and being better competitors in the league.

Everyone has poor performance from time to time. It is called variability, it is called poker.

 

[thePokerClub]

This is where I ended up landing for the individual player update. It is a private update just for them in PDF form.

We are a little more than halfway through our current Season and the plan is to do one of these probably every 1/3 of the way through a Season going forward.

I am sure I will continue to enhance what becomes standard information in the update, but several in the group agree this is a useful good start.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Shoot guys, I forgot to caveat my questions with....

This post is meant for those that are not keyboard jockies bouncing between PCF and Reddit that actually look to do interesting things with their club data that make things more competitive in a league format.

Lol, I figured you'd be excited about any engagement at this point.

 

[RadicusScout]

This post is meant for those that are not keyboard jockies bouncing between PCF and Reddit...

 

[thePokerClub]

Lol, I figured you'd be excited about any engagement at this point.

I missed this post lol. No, I only want real engagement not ANY.

Found a more respectable crowd on a different thread.

Definitely clear that some appreciate data while others do not.

 

[mikem_nyc]

I missed this post lol. No, I only want real engagement not ANY.

Found a more respectable crowd on a different thread.

Definitely clear that some appreciate data while others do not.

 

[smashed_potato]

@thePokerClub are you and your buddy’s a bunch of data set nerds playing? I don’t mean that in an offensive sense, similar work fields?

Will the losing players go off and up skill their game? Or are you just highlighting people’s poor play and that might not be the reason they come to the game but might be the reason they leave if you continue to highlight said bad play.

I use to keep a ledger of in’s and out’s for my own reasons of hosting. Example try and balance player fields on certain nights. Cash games especially with invites.

I’m not sure outside these reasons why data on my players is beneficial to anyone apart from winner players? You might see it as fun banta but it would get tired if I was the losing player rolling up cause I enjoyed a night out with the boys.

 

[Ben8257]

I read the title of this thread and made me think of the Progressive commercial about turning into our parents…. I am 43 years old and didn’t read a single word in this thread! This is the nerdiest topic ever…. Man PCF has become boring.

If these aren’t the topics mostly discussed at your poker table… and many people here will attest to the fact that I will bring up every single one of these topics with total strangers….well then just count me out of this particular “cool kids club” lmao

Sorry @thePokerClub I had to go there.

Fellow Chipper Ben

 

[thePokerClub]

@thePokerClub are you and your buddy’s a bunch of data set nerds playing? I don’t mean that in an offensive sense, similar work fields?

Will the losing players go off and up skill their game? Or are you just highlighting people’s poor play and that might not be the reason they come to the game but might be the reason they leave if you continue to highlight said bad play.

I use to keep a ledger of in’s and out’s for my own reasons of hosting. Example try and balance player fields on certain nights. Cash games especially with invites.

I’m not sure outside these reasons why data on my players is beneficial to anyone apart from winner players? You might see it as fun banta but it would get tired if I was the losing player rolling up cause I enjoyed a night out with the boys.

Hey, yeah some of us are in data fields for work. I am definitely a data nerd around this so I didn't take your comment negatively at all.

Overall, my club is strictly a tournament club with the goal of qualifying for the Season Championship every year. That is the whole goal - and only the Top 8 qualify out of 24 members so there are definitely fewer 'winners' rather than 'losers'.

The point of the club is to get better.....period, which is why I provide a performance scorecard to each player privately (mine was the example earlier in the thread). We all know eachother outside of poker and you have to be invited by a member, vetted by the group, and voted in.

We have a LeaderBoard that is very public which has everyone's point totals.

It is all in good fun and competition so we help eachother learn while giving everyone a very very hard time when they deserve it.

 

[thePokerClub]

Well, I wouldn't dox my players by listing their Sir names on a public forum.

I don't trust AI with much. I can't see how AI would save you time on the top graph. It's literally 11 datapoints assigned to an object, in this case, a person. It should have taken you 1 more minute to plot that graph with a background in data.

I find analytics fun as well, not sure how much players actually care about it though, judging off the cares most players give to chip material, it's likely a passion project

Hey @Machine I missed this post. If you are referring to the top graph I agree with you on the 11 datapoints. Where AI was helpful there was generating the HTML in 30 seconds that allows it to be dynamic/interactive and simply dropped into the club Wordpress site.

I should probably have referred to that as an 'interactive dashboard' rather than a graph.

If I had to write that out it would be more time consuming.

 

[thePokerClub]

I read the title of this thread and made me think of the Progressive commercial about turning into our parents…. I am 43 years old and didn’t read a single word in this thread! This is the nerdiest topic ever…. Man PCF has become boring.
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If these aren’t the topics mostly discussed at your poker table… and many people here will attest to the fact that I will bring up every single one of these topics with total strangers….well then just count me out of this particular “cool kids club” lmao

Sorry @thePokerClub I had to go there.

Fellow Chipper Ben

@Ben8257 very fair assessment. And yes! We talk about this at the table.

In fact, we are hoping to challenge other clubs using our point/rewards system and combining LeaderBoards for a larger Championship opportunity.

I would actually make the argument that you cannot really get better at a game like poker unless you are willing to dig into your own 'data' at some point.

Maybe you are also a nerd about poker but are in denial? Tell me you don't track any of your own performance metrics.

Did we just become best friends? Probably not but thats cool, I wish everyone luck at the tables they enjoy.

That said...stay out of my beat laboratory and keep it in your pants.

 

[Ben8257]

@Ben8257 very fair assessment. And yes! We talk about this at the table.

In fact, we are hoping to challenge other clubs using our point/rewards system and combining LeaderBoards for a larger Championship opportunity.

I would actually make the argument that you cannot really get better at a game like poker unless you are willing to dig into your own 'data' at some point.

Maybe you are also a nerd about poker but are in denial? Tell me you don't track any of your own performance metrics.

Did we just become best friends? Probably not but thats cool, I wish everyone luck at the tables they enjoy.

That said...stay out of my beat laboratory and keep it in your pants.

I have literally never tracked a single thing about poker! I consume as much beer, whiskey and cannibis as possible and then try to make really good decisions!

Also if these things do indeed get discussed at the tables… I changed my mind! I’ll take a seat! But NO AI talk! Haha