You're right. He mentioned that the gold color printed on the plaques resembles gold foil. It's a more bland and muted gold color but still effective for achieving the Casino Royale Plaque look.
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Casino Royale plaques: LeGold Edition (1 Viewer)
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jz12345
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These look awesome, also these remind me of one of the great bond moments.
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Cheers. It was a lot(!) of work, so I won't be sharing the design. Hope you understand.
Thanks. I really appreciate the offer, but given that I have a bunch of setups already I feel it would be better to help another CR fan instead.
Great work !
You mentioned that you ordered 500 custom ceramics chips from Sun-Fly. Two months ago I contacted them to run Casino Royale chips and Susie, working at Sun-Fly told me that somebody else already did it, she sent me this picture, are these yours ?
You mentioned that you ordered 500 custom ceramics chips from Sun-Fly. Two months ago I contacted them to run Casino Royale chips and Susie, working at Sun-Fly told me that somebody else already did it, she sent me this picture, are these yours ?
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Yes, that's them.
It's a small world isn't it haha, great work LeGold, amazing chips. Even tho I'm not gonna lie (and I think you'll agree, you and I seems to have the same perfect design expectation) they're not perfectly accurate to the movie, they still look insane and perfect to the untrained eye. Great work !
Anyways, may I ask why you went with SunFly for your chips ? I think I'll do mine via BR Pro Poker, from what I read on this forum they seem do the best custom ceramics.
If you still have them, may I ask how the edge alignment and the overall quality control from SunFly chips are? From what Susie sent me, the edges on their chips doen't look very clean. She also sent me this picture of your Casino Royale chips :
My personnal .ai file of the chips are almost done, I just need to adjust the "Casino Royale" fonts (The C and A are a pain in the ass, I don't know if you remember haha)
Anyways, reading your thread about the plaques was INSANE to me. Just like you my dream is to have a Casino Royale home game setup, and my biggest concern always were the plaques, the Apache plaques looks like garbage (the colors mostly) and I didn't really see myself spending 5-10k per plaque on auctions lol. So seeing that somebody out there went out and made his own custom designs, and they're actually very good, was really relieving, now I do now it's doable.
I have two more questions to ask you if you don't mind :
-Since you (still?) have 500 custom ceramics that you don't use, would you mind sending/selling a sample? (I'll pay the fees, we're both in europe anyways so it'll be somewhat cheap). I'd love to know how Casino Royale chips looks like IRL.
-We both know that learning and making existing design to near perfection is pain in the ass, when I'll have my chips, maybe I'll be too exhausted to make the plaque designs, would you consider selling the .ai file you sent to MSK? (I'm talking reasonable price for you, 100€-150€ maybe?)
Thanks again LeGold for your time and this great thread.
Anyways, may I ask why you went with SunFly for your chips ? I think I'll do mine via BR Pro Poker, from what I read on this forum they seem do the best custom ceramics.
If you still have them, may I ask how the edge alignment and the overall quality control from SunFly chips are? From what Susie sent me, the edges on their chips doen't look very clean. She also sent me this picture of your Casino Royale chips :
My personnal .ai file of the chips are almost done, I just need to adjust the "Casino Royale" fonts (The C and A are a pain in the ass, I don't know if you remember haha)
Anyways, reading your thread about the plaques was INSANE to me. Just like you my dream is to have a Casino Royale home game setup, and my biggest concern always were the plaques, the Apache plaques looks like garbage (the colors mostly) and I didn't really see myself spending 5-10k per plaque on auctions lol. So seeing that somebody out there went out and made his own custom designs, and they're actually very good, was really relieving, now I do now it's doable.
I have two more questions to ask you if you don't mind :
-Since you (still?) have 500 custom ceramics that you don't use, would you mind sending/selling a sample? (I'll pay the fees, we're both in europe anyways so it'll be somewhat cheap). I'd love to know how Casino Royale chips looks like IRL.
-We both know that learning and making existing design to near perfection is pain in the ass, when I'll have my chips, maybe I'll be too exhausted to make the plaque designs, would you consider selling the .ai file you sent to MSK? (I'm talking reasonable price for you, 100€-150€ maybe?)
Thanks again LeGold for your time and this great thread.
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I went with Sun-Fly as I like more their feel and quality than BR, also their labels are much more true to the originals than a full-print would be. Not perfect, but as close as it gets with what was possible within the design/mold limitations.
Send me a pm when you have enough posts and we can discuss what can be done.
Send me a pm when you have enough posts and we can discuss what can be done.
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Just bumping this as I'll soon be travelling to the EU and can send you stuff locally. But can't PM you yet as you have too few posts.
I understand, unfortunately I can't really publish posts only to have posts as it is against the rules.
Maybe I'll post soon to sell a set of chips and post to show my new one. I guess it's okay for the rules.
Thanks again for thinking of me ! And don't worry if I missed your EU trip, I'm absolutely not in a hurry, I'll catch the next one !
Hey buddie, you can always send stuff to me and I can relay....
emhmark2
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Where did you get the poker table from? I would love one of those.So, here’s the story of my plaque journey. Not the first, or last one, but one I'm very happy about!
It all started with me wanting to organize a yearly Casino Royale poker night with my group. I started with the chips, not caring too much about the plaques (after all, Apache has them in stock so I could order them whenever). Apache’s chips were not easy to get in quantities at the time, and communication was hard-to-impossible, so I decided I’d try to get old Cartamundis instead. Yes, the quality is ubercrap, but they're original. The search for those turned out to be harder than I had imagined (and I’m still not quite there... hint hint, @ChipOnMyShoulder?), but… what happened during that search is that a little bird called sleepypiggly saw my wanted-ad for the chips and pinged me about - the plaques. As it turned out, he has original B&G versions and some knowledge about their history, so an interesting read. Plaques were not a rabbit hole I was willing to get into, but me being me, it didn’t take much to take the dive. I quickly realized that making my own design, which would be closer to the originals than Apache’s plaques, wouldn’t cost much more. Still, far from cheap in such quantities, but as a wise man called @allforcharity once said, "it's not Bondesque unless you break the bank."
And here we are, I’m happy to present you the LeGold edition of Casino Royale plaques (and other stuff, but right now let's focus on them):
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First, I did some research on PCF to see what had been done before, and got really inspired by this thread. MSK can do Pantone color matching?! Count me in!
Then, there was something bothering me with all the existing tributes. The circles in the middle, what colors should they be? I’d seen various representations, from green to gray (on the red plaques), and photos/videos of the originals didn’t help a lot. I was not familiar with the concept of lunettes, a feature present on B&G plaques, where these colored with a marble pattern. And, actually, transparent. Well, f***. Can’t get that with MSK, so I’ll have to improvise.
After some time, including shipping miniature versions of the originals from USA to Norway and buying Pantone samples, the journey had officially begun. Mr. Sleepy on his side took hi-res photos and detailed measurements of all the design elements on the large plaques, for me to recreate from scratch in Illustrator. Also, MSK’s two stock sizes match almost perfectly the originals, which was nice.
For the lunettes, I had to put my Illustrator skills to the test and, after a lot of back and forth, I finally got to the point where I was happy with the results for both the marble pattern and 3D effect. As colors on lunettes vary a lot depending on the background, I had to make a choice and I chose the look with a bright background:
Oh, remember how MSK was able to do Pantone color matching? Well, turns out it’s BS. They can’t, and it’s not even close. After a few rounds of samples, I gave up and decided I was happy with the slightly darker blue and paler red as they just couldn’t do any better (in retrospect, shipping them the mini originals might have helped, but I’m not even sure about that).
As for the gold foil color on the originals, I had to settle with a solid one which was not too yellowy. Also, you might get tempted to use the metallic gold print offered by MSK. There are two problems with it, at least for this particular design:
Anyhow, here’s some more pr0n. All photos courtesy of Mr Sleepy, to whom I owe a huge thanks for taking this journey with me and coming with a lot of constructive comments and suggestions!
- The print is VERY speckly, not smooth. It used to be smoother years ago, but the current print is not. Also, you’ll notice stray gold speckles across the plaque…
- They need to run the metallic print separately from other layers, so placement would not be precise enough.
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And yes, while at it, I also did a travel baby version of both:
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Lastly, some tips to future MSK customers:
- Do not rely on MSK's color matching, at least not Pantone (and CMYK is very dependent on the equipment being used).
- If you are very particular on your design, do make prototypes! Can't stress this enough, as you might easily get disappointed.
- When you pay for prototypes to be made, they will want to charge again for new versions. I’d read of cases here on the forum where people only had to pay once. Maybe their current contact has a different policy. In any case, beware of that.
- When you make prototypes, you can choose to have different designs on each side! So, you can test 2-in-1.
- Be careful with choosing the metallic gold print. Get some recent samples in hands that will show you what it is about and whether it works for your particular case.
- Be very clear with your requests to MSK, and verify and question their proofs. In one case, they just decided to do things differently without saying anything (like not using metallic gold print when explicitly told to do so).
- Straight lines tend to be not so straight after all. My theory is that the print is done on top of their uneven marble background before putting the last layer, but it is just a wild guess. I noticed the same with B&G plaques though, so I just accepted it.
- Avoid elements that need to be centered/placed perfectly on the plaque. There will be variation, sometimes up to a few mm (whatever that might be in freedom units).
- I noticed their printer can be low on ink or have some other reason for causing stripes across the whole background. Their explanation was that certain CMYK combinations are just like that, but I just don't buy it.
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emhmark2
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Thanks for that, where did you get the Casino Royale logo for the table? I can’t find it anywhere
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Ah, I drew it from scratch, then ordered the topper from @rjdev7. You can find and check his vendor thread for details on how to order toppers there (note: you need enough posts on the forum to be able to send him a pm to place the order).
emhmark2
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Do you still have the logo image it would really help me out a lot,
Thanks
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He has it ready.
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