Copag Prices just went up on Amazon (1 Viewer)

[Phyffe]

I just noticed that the price of Copag decks on Amazon just went up by around 10%.

Coincidentally that was the assessed tariff rate the Trump imposed on Brazil.

Sad, considering 10% was a very low rate compared to the rest of the world, Copag did not choose to absorb any of the pain and passed it directly to the consumer.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Copag did not choose to absorb any of the pain and passed it directly to the consumer.

Huh! So if we buy these goods, we're the ones paying the tariff? Damn.

 

[Kam]

quick search:

“In the US toy, doll, and game manufacturing industry, IBISWorld reports a profit margin of 14.1% for Cartamundi in 2025. This figure is specific to the US market, and Cartamundi is a global manufacturer, including brands like USPCC. In 2019, Cartamundi generated revenue of approximately $440 million.“

They’re a relatively small company, operate in a commodity market with most of their product volume likely being from supermarket shelves. If we simplify and assume it’s all US based, a 10% increase in cost on a 14% margin business is massive. Their profit would drop to ~5%.

Most companies like this have a board of directors, their role is usually to ensure the company operates for the benefit of shareholders. So to protect that profit margin, you have to pass it through to your customers. Most businesses are not high 30-40% margin that could absorb. Most will and have to pass it through to survive to be competitive and get investment etc.

If the tariffs stay, then costs only ever go up, not down. Cartamundi decides to build a new Copag card factory in the US. Labor rates are higher than Brazil + they’d need to amortize the investment cost into pricing, and they’d likely still need to import raw materials that’d be subject to a 10% tariff. So in the 2-3 years it’d take to bring it state side, price then goes 2 or 3x.

 

[chippitydoodah]

LotFancy it is then!

 

[upNdown]

LotFancy it is then!

They actually went up two bucks too. So they’re up 20% to $12 per setup.

 

[allforcharity]

LotFancy it is then!

Which might be subject to 254% tariff soon....

 

[PepperPaul]

Shocking the tariffs are costing us more. Who could have predicted that.

 

[TheOffalo]

I’m polarizing my card purchase range, either cheap but still great Broken Arrows at $9-10/setup or Dal Negros or Fourniers at $24-26/setup.

 

[PepperPaul]

I’m polarizing my card purchase range, either cheap but still great Broken Arrows at $9-10/setup or Dal Negros or Fourniers at $24-26/setup.

So this is what they mean when they say poker reflects real life.

Spoiler

I don’t know if they really say this, I just kind of made it up but it sounds like something they would say.

 

[Mojo1312]

I just noticed that the price of Copag decks on Amazon just went up by around 10%.

Coincidentally that was the assessed tariff rate the Trump imposed on Brazil.

Sad, considering 10% was a very low rate compared to the rest of the world, Copag did not choose to absorb any of the pain and passed it directly to the consumer.

More rake is better.

 

[Phyffe]

What doesn't sit well with me is the fact that the tariffs have been paused for non-Chinese products. They shouldn't have had to raise prices just yet.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

What doesn't sit well with me is the fact that the tariffs have been paused for non-Chinese products. They shouldn't have had to raise prices just yet.

Wait, so companies can just raise prices and blame external forces? First the inflation, now the tariffs, hmmph. This thread has been rustling my jimmies.

 

[ekricket]

What doesn't sit well with me is the fact that the tariffs have been paused for non-Chinese products. They shouldn't have had to raise prices just yet.

Maybe it’s not related?

 

[buckeye09076]

What doesn't sit well with me is the fact that the tariffs have been paused for non-Chinese products. They shouldn't have had to raise prices just yet.

A baseline 10% tariff was applied to all countries. Some countries had additional “reciprocal” tariffs imposed. The reciprocal tariffs were suspended for 90 days, but the 10% base tariffs were not.

 

[JWC]

I just noticed that the price of Copag decks on Amazon just went up by around 10%.

Coincidentally that was the assessed tariff rate the Trump imposed on Brazil.

Sad, considering 10% was a very low rate compared to the rest of the world, Copag did not choose to absorb any of the pain and passed it directly to the consumer.

They passed it onto the consumer, and took a little extra. Tariffs are based at the price goods are imported at, not retail. Thus, if you import a good for $8 and sell it for $10, the 10% tariff is 80c, not $1.

 

[ekricket]

I just noticed that the price of Copag decks on Amazon just went up by around 10%.

Coincidentally that was the assessed tariff rate the Trump imposed on Brazil.

Sad, considering 10% was a very low rate compared to the rest of the world, Copag did not choose to absorb any of the pain and passed it directly to the consumer.

So…. The consumers in Europe have to pay 10% more because America imposed a tariff on goods coming into America?

So you think that a product that is made in Brazil and then sold in Belgium is subject to a 10% American tariff? Or are these cards 10% less anywhere else in the world?

 

[Phyffe]

So…. The consumers in Europe have to pay 10% more because America imposed a tariff on goods coming into America?

So you think that a product that is made in Brazil and then sold in Belgium is subject to a 10% American tariff? Or are these cards 10% less anywhere else in the world?

Take my country for example. Most small retailers can't buy direct from Copag because of MOQs. All retailers here probably buy from the US so on top of the exorbitant shipping rates, they raised their prices. A deck of Copag Elites here costs around $19

 

[ekricket]

. All retailers here probably buy from the US so on top of the exorbitant shipping rates, they raised their prices.

Dude, you have other problems….

 

[chipinla]

I find it somewhat amusing that people on this forum will spend thousands of dollars on overpriced chips but bitch about a couple of bucks for cards.

 

[buzzmonkey]

So…. The consumers in Europe have to pay 10% more because America imposed a tariff on goods coming into America?

So you think that a product that is made in Brazil and then sold in Belgium is subject to a 10% American tariff? Or are these cards 10% less anywhere else in the world?

There can be a spillover effect in economics when it comes to tariffs. Since the US has a large consumer base, some companies will try to spread the cost increases around to slightly lower prices here.

Let's say we impose a 25% tariff on China. If the US makes up say, 50% of their sales market for a product, they may adjust prices so that US consumers only pay say 15% more for that product from the retailer, but then maybe hike prices by say 5-10% elsewhere to make up some of the losses.

 

[ekricket]

There can be a spillover effect in economics when it comes to tariffs. Since the US has a large consumer base, some companies will try to spread the cost increases around to slightly lower prices here.

Let's say we impose a 25% tariff on China. If the US makes up say, 50% of their sales market for a product, they may adjust prices so that US consumers only pay say 15% more for that product from the retailer, but then maybe hike prices by say 5-10% elsewhere to make up some of the losses.

It works the other way most of the time.
Soak the US so you can sell your product cheaper elsewhere. Take a look at prescription pricing globally.

 

[JackJack]

It works the other way most of the time.
Soak the US so you can sell your product cheaper elsewhere. Take a look at prescription pricing globally.

PBM’s …. That’s the issue with meds in America.

 

[Phyffe]

Dude, you have other problems….

Tariff-wise, you mean?

 

[Felt_Lizard]

@ekricket
Please don't tap the fish tank....

 

[JMC9389]

Best deal out there right now for Copags is $5/deck for bridge jumbo Copag WSOP cards from Spinetti's. A few scuff marks but come right off with warm water, perfect condition otherwise.

 

[Mojo1312]

There can be a spillover effect in economics when it comes to tariffs. Since the US has a large consumer base, some companies will try to spread the cost increases around to slightly lower prices here.

Let's say we impose a 25% tariff on China. If the US makes up say, 50% of their sales market for a product, they may adjust prices so that US consumers only pay say 15% more for that product from the retailer, but then maybe hike prices by say 5-10% elsewhere to make up some of the losses.

Like the pharmaceutical companies?

 

[RocAFella1]

 

[Old State]

probably in part because other card companies seem to have gone out of business of stopped selling in the US over the last few years

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Best deal out there right now for Copags is $5/deck for bridge jumbo Copag WSOP cards from Spinetti's. A few scuff marks but come right off with warm water, perfect condition otherwise.

Insanely good deals. Plus they make great gifts, I always pull up youtube videos of those cards being used in WSOP events to show them off.

 

[ekricket]

Tariff-wise, you mean?

Most small retailers can't buy direct from Copag because of MOQs. All retailers here probably buy from the US so on top of the exorbitant shipping rates, they raised their prices.

No. I mean if you are paying retail for products imported into the USA and then paying again to export/ship and import them into another country and then try to resell them for profit there….

You have other problems. Like business savvy problems. Nobody has sympathy for bad business decisions that someone voluntarily makes.