How to play, scarney? (9 Viewers)

[LeCoq]

Some variants call for that, but usually no.

Thanks for the clarification!

 

[Darson]

what if the same card is on the top and bottom boards? Does it get discarded from the top to the bottom?

In regular Scarney no.

There is a less common version called murder Scarney where it is discarded.

In an even less common version, the discard is replaced from the stub (kill and replace).

 

[detroitdad]

an even less common version, the discard is replaced from the stub (kill and replace).

We played that last month. It was horrible.

 

[LeCoq]

In regular Scarney no.

There is a less common version called murder Scarney where it is discarded.

In an even less common version, the discard is replaced from the stub (kill and replace).

what is the stub?

 

[Darson]

what is the stub?

Cards not used for the players cards and board. So this only works with less than 8 players and really only 6 max.

With 8 players every card on the deck is used (5x8 for the players and 6x2 for the boards).

With 7 players you have 5 leftover cards in the stub.

Oh and it goes without saying that no burns are used.

 

[LeCoq]

Cards not used for the players cards and board. So this only works with less than 8 players and really only 6 max.

With 8 players every card on the deck is used (5x8 for the players and 6x2 for the boards).

With 7 players you have 5 leftover cards in the stub.

Oh and it goes without saying that no burns are used.

thank you I appreciate the explanation

 

[pltrgyst]

The best advice concerning playing Scarney is: "Don't."

 

[KHarp1]

The best advice concerning playing Scarney is: "Don't."

Same with Derailment ...just don't. It hurts.

 

[allforcharity]

We played that last month. It was horrible.

We played it a couple weeks ago. I concur that it was horrible. However, I strangely want to give it another shot....

 

[LeCoq]

I played derailment last week and enjoyed it to mix it up. I will be adding both Scarney and derailment to my home game in limited doses.

 

[detroitdad]

We played it a couple weeks ago. I concur that it was horrible. However, I strangely want to give it another shot....

On my deal, we almost went through the stub replacing the top board. On the turn, we ran out. That happened a couple of times in the orbit.

 

[Klobberer]

Drunk and for very low stakes...

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Drunk and for very low stakes...

Lol, I definitely warn my apes that its gambly and if you're not okay losing everything, just fold immediately. I'm pretty sure this makes them want to gamble EVEN MORE, its like when they made people sign a waiver before watching The Exorcist.

 

[cpac54]

@JRald07 I just found myself reading through a thread on scarney... maybe there's hope for me and circus games yet!

 

[drdr]

Scarney 101:
Each player gets 5 (or 6) cards. The five card version plays better, in my opinion, as there is an increased risk of losing your hand. Two boards will be dealt at the same time, each with a three card flop, 2 card turn, and final card river. Standard double board game mechanics are used. For the top board, you may use any number of cards remaining in your hand at the end of the game to make the best poker hand. That’s half the pot. For the bottom board, if a card in your hand matches the rank of a bottom board card then you discard it face up to its spot on the bottom row at the time the board is exposed. The dealer announces the rank of the bottom cards when turned face up to facilitate the discard phase (i.e., the top cards are not spoken). The bottom cards from the players are discarded face up and organized to avoid mistakes/cheating and so everyone has the same information. The second half of the pot goes to the lowest point count using only the cards remaining in your hand. Aces are one point, face cards ten points, and count pips for the others. In Icelandic scarney, if you end up with zero cards in your hand then you have no hand to play (i.e., you don’t have nut low with zero points, you have no hand and you lose). In Canadian Scarney, you can still play with zero cards and you have the nut low, but you can’t bet and must apologize for having no cards in hand. Fun game, but Scarney can be scary. I mean it’s the word “scary”, just with ‘ne’ added! Someone could have quads with just 3 cards in hand (and also have a three point hand if those cards are aces).

For Canadian Scarney...
If someone has no hole/down cards and cannot bet, are they still permitted to call in order to stay in the hand? Or must a main pot and side pot(s) be created for the Canadian hand which then gets split for the low?

 

[Chippy McChiperson]

For Canadian Scarney...
If someone has no hole/down cards and cannot bet, are they still permitted to call in order to stay in the hand? Or must a main pot and side pot(s) be created for the Canadian hand which then gets split for the low?

They can still call, they just can’t bet or raise.

 

[drdr]

They can still call, they just can’t bet or raise.

That's easier. Will create interesting betting situations too.

 

[drdr]

Plan on giving Scarney a try. Not sure on what variant best. One reg is Canadian, so is tempting to play Canadian just to tilt them.

Tried Scrotum on Sunday. Interesting but not much fun.

 

[WedgeRock]

How to play, scarney?

Fold.

 

[RadicusScout]

Plan on giving Scarney a try.

If your crew is anything like my group, be prepared to be stuck on that game the rest of the night. When I first introduced this game to our crew, it was an instant hit. We play the Canadian variant where if a player loses their entire hand we count it as the nut low (0). Still haven't seen it happen but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

 

[MatB]

Ooh we could make up a game called liar’s scarney where nobody discards till all action is completed after the river.

in.

 

[drdr]

If your crew is anything like my group, be prepared to be stuck on that game the rest of the night. When I first introduced this game to our crew, it was an instant hit. We play the Canadian variant where if a player loses their entire hand we count it as the nut low (0). Still haven't seen it happen but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

I'll report back.

 

[KHarp1]

I just want to point out how screwed up and anti poker the Canadian version is... you're playing a split pot where the nuts is the lowest pips in hand, and, when you get the nuts you can't bet it.

 

[MatB]

No cards is no hand.

That’s poker.

Icelandic all the way.

 

[KHarp1]

The rules of the game says no cards is the best hand for half the pot, hence my post of just how screwed up that is. You can't have it both ways, either I have a nut low, or, I don't. Which is it?

 

[MatB]

Canadian is the worst.
No cards and raising is second worst
No cards you scoop is third worst

 

[MatB]

The scoop variant can stay. As there it happens on the discard at that moment.
I can live with that.

But everything else should be banned.

 

[ChaosRock]

No cards is no hand.

That’s poker.

Icelandic all the way.

^^^ 100% THIS! ^^^

 

[ChaosRock]

The scoop variant can stay. As there it happens on the discard at that moment.
I can live with that.

But everything else should be banned.

You were making too much sense, I knew you couldn't keep it up...

How can there be a scoop in a hi/low game when you have no hi with no cards? It's even worse than having a low only with no cards...


Canadian is the worst.
No cards and raising is second worst
No cards you scoop is THE WORSTEST

fyp

 

[TheBigTater]

Here's a crazy option.

How about when you have no cards your pip count defaults to 10, then bet away.

Best high hand is the board and best low is 10.

Call it Bend-Over Scarney