RULES - Circus Games (Veronica Exposed Card) (2 Viewers)

[MrCatPants]

Playing Veronica last night and I flipped a card during the original deal near the end of the deal. We had some active debate on what the proper course was. Which is it? The whole 'door card' thing makes this specific to Veronica and not just a standard triple draw game.

 

[MrCatPants]

@Darson @TX_Golf_N_Poker @harrysallout

 

[Machine]

The player can't keep the card.

It could go either way, it can be a burn, or it can be the door card, I'd likely make it the door card.

it'll be shuffled back in anyway

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

We don't burn when we play circus. How would it be shuffled back in if it's the door card?

 

[MrCatPants]

Tons of lookie loos, everyone scared to vote?

 

[CraigT78]

I'd complete the deal, including the door card, and then shuffle it back into the stub. It makes for more fun knowing a card you need might still be available, and let's be honest any extra information in Veronica is good to have - even if everyone else has it too.

 

[Sprouty]

Tons of lookie loos, everyone scared to vote?

Removing it from the deck forever is not an option.

 

[CraigT78]

@Grant - what says you?

 

[shorticus]

I don’t know of any official rules for circus so shuffle it back in the deck and move on.

Random is random right?

 

[CraigT78]

Removing it from the deck forever is not an option.

Facts. I'm need that at some point that night.

 

[Sprouty]

Make the player keep it. It's a draw game, unless they stand pat you'll never know if they kept it or discarded it.

 

[MrCatPants]

Removing it from the deck forever is not an option.

DESTROYED FOR ALL TIME, FOREVER AND ALWAYS. BURNED IN THE FIRE OF A THOUSAND SUNS.

 

[Grant]

It is the door card each and every time. You exposed a card before you were going to expose a card and now this is that card. Any other option degrades/changes the hand and this one has no impact at all be cause random is random. This is being debated because y’all don’t actually believe in random card order and are seeking out the blessing of the card gods. Stop it.

 

[MrCatPants]

Facts. I'm need that at some point that night.

W T F

It was literally the .

wtf.

What are the odds? (1/52, I know)

 

[BEANO52]

I think to expedite things, just make it the door card. Worst answer is it goes away forever.

i.e. stud: when a card is flipped that was supposed to come down, it becomes their up card, the way I most commonly have played.

 

[Sprouty]

You guys realize who you are talking to right?

Veronica world champion.

 

[MrCatPants]

You guys realize who you are talking to right?

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Veronica world champion.

I distinctly remember pat quads in the mitt from the get go.

 

[Sprouty]

I distinctly remember pat quads in the mitt from the get go.

Who pats quads? I'm drawing one every time!

 

[BGinGA]

It is the door card each and every time. You exposed a card before you were going to expose a card and now this is that card. Any other option degrades/changes the hand and this one has no impact at all be cause random is random. This is being debated because y’all don’t actually believe in random card order and are seeking out the blessing of the card gods. Stop it.

Cheap words from somebody who would flip his gourd when the dealer distributes the hole cards in a totally random order (seat 1, seat 10, seat 5, etc.). Stop it.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

I'd complete the deal, including the door card, and then shuffle it back into the stub. It makes for more fun knowing a card you need might still be available, and let's be honest any extra information in Veronica is good to have - even if everyone else has it too.

I think this makes the most sense. I voted for option #4.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

It is the door card each and every time. You exposed a card before you were going to expose a card and now this is that card. Any other option degrades/changes the hand and this one has no impact at all be cause random is random. This is being debated because y’all don’t actually believe in random card order and are seeking out the blessing of the card gods. Stop it.

This is also logical.

Make the player keep it. It's a draw game, unless they stand pat you'll never know if they kept it or discarded it.

And this makes sense too. This is slightly different from your option #3, as it is required that the player keep it, not optional. I think this is a better option that it being optional.

The only answer that makes no sense at all is removing the card from the hand.

 

[ArielVer18]

Are we supposed to know the rules of Veronica without looking it up?

If we use Triple Draw rules as a reference, the card is taking out of play until it is brought back by a forced midhand re-shuffle (like if the stub run out of draw cards). Treat it like an exposed draw card. Finish the deal and the community card, then the player with an incomplete hand gets a new card off the top of the deck. Exposed card becomes burn card.

Playing devil's advocate, if a malicious dealer knows exposed cards become the door card, what prevents him from intentionally exposing a card he wants to be the new door card?