New El cortez dollar yuck (1 Viewer)

[ovo]

Looks like plastic

 

[inapinch]

 

[ChipEnvy]

Icon is taking over the world. I wonder if it's because GPI is not really working their relationships and Icon is out there really trying to drum up business or if it's that the casino's are looking at these as a big money saver.

Oh how the mighty have fallen.

The BJ isn't great, but I can live with it.... but from all that ^^^ goodness we end up here:

Ohhhh... the HUMANITY!

 

[LeLe]

Another casino fall to these ICON shit stuff again

 

[Nanook]

Wow that is bad

 

[Okku]

If I remember correctly these casinos in Vegas/Henderson are now using ICONs and have switched in the last year or two:

Palms, El Cortez, Golden Nugget and The Pass

I think that's it. Just getting worse and worse everyday. GPI seems to be offering hot stamped RHCs to those places that are switching from inlayed $1s and trying to find a cheaper alternative I guess. Hopefully we don't see a full switch to ceramics...

 

[upNdown]

Sad day

 

[ChipperMarten]

This is absolutely sad. El Cortez Snowflake chips are one of my favorite sets in LV.

 

[jr8719]

*Tina has entered the chat*

 

[AWenger]

or if it's that the casino's are looking at these as a big money saver.

Maybe it's not just about money, what about cleanliness as an reason/issue for the casino managers to go with plastic/Icon chips for new chips?

We've all seen the amount of dirt & gunk that can collect on clay poker chips in a casino. Do the plastic chips from Icon resist dirt better? Do they still look relatively clean after years of circulation on the casino floor? (Or maybe that dirty chips might turn some people away from playing games with dirty chips, so the dirt issue is about money after all.)

I'll be the first to say I have no interest to collect any of the new plastic/Icon chips, at least in barrel or rack quantities. (I still might grab a single as a souvenir).

 

[Darson]

Maybe it's not just about money, what about cleanliness as an reason/issue for the casino managers to go with plastic/Icon chips for new chips?

We've all seen the amount of dirt & gunk that can collect on clay poker chips in a casino. Do the plastic chips from Icon resist dirt better? Do they still look relatively clean after years of circulation on the casino floor? (Or maybe that dirty chips might turn some people away from playing games with dirty chips, so the dirt issue is about money after all.)

I'll be the first to say I have no interest to collect any of the new plastic/Icon chips, at least in barrel or rack quantities. (I still might grab a single as a souvenir).

I'm not sure if it's the resistance to dirt but plastic should be easier to clean and that $1 looks like the graphics are printed directly onto the chip.

Looks like the GN $5 is the same:

pic stolen from @slisk250

 

[chipinla]

I would assume it’s a combination of everything with Covid speeding up the process. My guess is these have to be easier to clean than clay without causing damage. We all know how gross chips are, I really hate that I have to touch some chips at casinos. Seeing all the drunk slobs licking their fingers while eating god knows what at tables then grabbing chips. It’s fucking gross. It would be interesting to see if Icon developed a special cleaner to whip them through after X amount of days in circulation.

 

[upNdown]

Maybe it's not just about money, what about cleanliness as an reason/issue for the casino managers to go with plastic/Icon chips for new chips?

We've all seen the amount of dirt & gunk that can collect on clay poker chips in a casino. Do the plastic chips from Icon resist dirt better? Do they still look relatively clean after years of circulation on the casino floor? (Or maybe that dirty chips might turn some people away from playing games with dirty chips, so the dirt issue is about money after all.)

I'll be the first to say I have no interest to collect any of the new plastic/Icon chips, at least in barrel or rack quantities. (I still might grab a single as a souvenir).

Maybe? But I can say for sure that I've played in casinos with clay, ceramic, and plastic chips that were so filthy they stuck together. So one may be easier to clean than the other, but as far as I’ve seen, they’ll all collect grime.

 

[BGinGA]

Icon is taking over the world. I wonder if it's because GPI is not really working their relationships and Icon is out there really trying to drum up business or if it's that the casino's are looking at these as a big money saver.

Oh how the mighty have fallen.
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The BJ isn't great, but I can live with it.... but from all that ^^^ goodness we end up here:
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Far worse than the ICON chip material is that atrocious font selected to replace the iconic El Cortez logo...... that's just wrong.

 

[puglia82]

 

[puglia82]

today reels from El Cortez popped up in my Instagram ... ugly Icon roulette chips

really??
omg

old roulette chips were BJ

cash chips other than 1$ are still Paulson ... how long it will last?

 

[JWC]

It’s almost like the Tina chips and icon chips are converging to a “please counterfeit me” scenario. I wonder how long until a problem occurs? What would a tribute set look like?

 

[XsteveJ]

This community has dedicated discussions centered around how to get the most possible chips smuggled out of these casinos and you guys are all sitting here wondering what happened to the beautiful clay $1 chips? How about these casinos finally came around to the idea of not replacing them when they inevitably go missing... The one thing I can definitively say after reading all of the reactions to the Icon chips is that not a one of you want to take them. Mission accomplished for the casinos I guess?

 

[Eriks]

This community has dedicated discussions centered around how to get the most possible chips smuggled out of these casinos and you guys are all sitting here wondering what happened to the beautiful clay $1 chips? How about these casinos finally came around to the idea of not replacing them when they inevtitably go missing... The one thing I can definitively say after reading all of the reactions to the Icon chips is that not a one of you want to take them. Mission accomplished for the casinos I guess?

Sorry mom, I guess we just want to have the cake and eat it too

 

[XsteveJ]

Sorry mom, I guess we just want to have the cake and eat it too

Condescend all you want, but I am also a member of this poker chip enthusiast forum, but you can see it in the Nugget thread too. All the talk of ugly chips, GPI not marketing, this and that and blah blah... and not one mention of the obvious elephant in the room: harvesting. It's a genuine miracle it lasted this long, what with the way casinos like to make money and all. Genuinely surprised $1 chips even exist at this point really.

 

[ChipEnvy]

Condescend all you want, but I am also a member of this poker chip enthusiast forum, but you can see it in the Nugget thread too. All the talk of ugly chips, GPI not marketing, this and that and blah blah... and not one mention of the obvious elephant in the room: harvesting. It's a genuine miracle it lasted this long, what with the way casinos like to make money and all. Genuinely surprised $1 chips even exist at this point really.

Can't believe we missed this... Dude's become a chipes exbert in just 20 posts!

 

[XsteveJ]

Can't believe we missed this... Dude's become a chipes exbert in just 20 posts!

Lurking here since 2016, Chiptalk before that. But by all means, go off.

 

[upNdown]

Can't believe we missed this... Dude's become a chipes exbert in just 20 posts!

Yeah but he’s probably right, and if he is right, then all these for-profit harvesters are killing both the hobby and the casino experience. So maybe we should start thinking of them less as offering a service to the community and more as diseased whores.

 

[upNdown]

Yeah but he’s probably right, and if he is right, then all these for-profit harvesters are killing both the hobby and the casino experience. So maybe we should start thinking of them less as offering a service to the community and more as diseased whores.

Wow that was out of line. Sorry resellers!

 

[allforcharity]

Condescend all you want, but I am also a member of this poker chip enthusiast forum, but you can see it in the Nugget thread too. All the talk of ugly chips, GPI not marketing, this and that and blah blah... and not one mention of the obvious elephant in the room: harvesting. It's a genuine miracle it lasted this long, what with the way casinos like to make money and all. Genuinely surprised $1 chips even exist at this point really.

Conjecture. All the "lost money" in harvested $1s in the world are a drop in the bucket to the casino bottom line. It's probably not even 1% of 1% of 1% of casino operating budget.

Casinos should love harvesters, especially for anything cash value of $2 and above. That's money that they have in hand with lower odds of going back out if the chips get redeemed.

 

[Eriks]

Condescend all you want, but I am also a member of this poker chip enthusiast forum, but you can see it in the Nugget thread too. All the talk of ugly chips, GPI not marketing, this and that and blah blah... and not one mention of the obvious elephant in the room: harvesting. It's a genuine miracle it lasted this long, what with the way casinos like to make money and all. Genuinely surprised $1 chips even exist at this point really.

I was just making a joke, didn’t mean to condescend. Sorry

Conjecture. All the "lost money" in harvested $1s in the world are a drop in the bucket to the casino bottom line. It's probably not even 1% of 1% of 1% of casino operating budget.

Casinos should love harvesters, especially for anything cash value of $2 and above. That's money that they have in hand with lower odds of going back out if the chips get redeemed.

This.

 

[bergs]

Conjecture. All the "lost money" in harvested $1s in the world are a drop in the bucket to the casino bottom line. It's probably not even 1% of 1% of 1% of casino operating budget.

Casinos should love harvesters, especially for anything cash value of $2 and above. That's money that they have in hand with lower odds of going back out if the chips get redeemed.

It’s probably a pain in the ass for someone to be constantly reordering chips - this may be their solution to getting some hours in their week back.

Also, cleaning some of the Paulsons (RHC particularly) sucks.

 

[bergs]

Yeah but he’s probably right, and if he is right, then all these for-profit harvesters are killing both the hobby and the casino experience. So maybe we should start thinking of them less as offering a service to the community and more as diseased whores.

 

[ktran]

It’s almost like the Tina chips and icon chips are converging to a “please counterfeit me” scenario. I wonder how long until a problem occurs? What would a tribute set look like?

Yeah I was thinking this, but with a better supplier. These look way to easy to counterfeit. I wonder how they deal with integrity of the chips. Do they all have RFID and a machine to count them automatically? I don't see this going well long run with security wise, unless there's some technology that catches counterfeit easily and quickly.

 

[greenchip]

Yeah I was thinking this, but with a better supplier. These look way to easy to counterfeit. I wonder how they deal with integrity of the chips. Do they all have RFID and a machine to count them automatically? I don't see this going well long run with security, unless there's some technology that catches counterfeit easily.

$25s and above icons usually have RFID and UV prints. Cromwell, Linq, and Palms have chips up to $5K all icon.

Probably not for Cortez $1 and GN $1 $5. GN $25 doesn’t even have RFID, only $100s and up.