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@grantc54 I am very interested in relabeling to fracs like you have done. I have no idea how to accomplish this task however. Could you point me in the right direction for how to do this please?
 
If someone can figure out what the yellowish film is, than finding the right cleaner for it, but it does not come off easy at all
 
@grantc54 I am very interested in relabeling to fracs like you have done. I have no idea how to accomplish this task however. Could you point me in the right direction for how to do this please?
You either have to remove the inlay yourself (there are threads on how to do this) or have them milled (there are vendors available for this) and have labels made (also have vendors and other websites/platforms for this) to replace the removed ones.
 
I think it is something that happens to Light Pink. My Paulson colour sample and the Horseshould Cleveland $500 show the same yellowing

This HSI is half cleaned.
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Here is another cleaned vs dirty:
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It is near impossible to get out of the hats and thr edges but in lower light conditions (like I play in), I dont think anyone will notice.
I would think this has to be the explanation. These are unused chips, it's not likely something yellow could have gotten on all of them! I just hope it doesn't keep coming back.
 
I would think this has to be the explanation. These are unused chips, it's not likely something yellow could have gotten on all of them! I just hope it doesn't keep coming back.
WTH ... wouldn't this happen to every light pink chip? Terribles? PCA Fracs? IOC? ... this is like a nightmare. That my pristine chips, sitting their cages, will just start oozing yellow goo like a bad date...
 
I would think this has to be the explanation. These are unused chips, it's not likely something yellow could have gotten on all of them! I just hope it doesn't keep coming back.
Exposure to low light (no uv) and nitrous oxidation most likely. Stored somewhere like a warehouse using propane forklifts is my guess
Anyone just leave a few in the sun to soak up some uv and see if it makes a difference? May not, if anyone could try a quick hydrogen peroxide bath on one it might help.
 
I think it is something that happens to Light Pink. My Paulson colour sample and the Horseshould Cleveland $500 show the same yellowing

This HSI is half cleaned.
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Here is another cleaned vs dirty:
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It is near impossible to get out of the hats and thr edges but in lower light conditions (like I play in), I dont think anyone will notice.

I'm glad this explains the HSC $500 Primary issues as well, I always wondered why they had the yellowing on the pink.....
And for anyone interested, this thread is useful https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/yellowing-of-light-pink.62905/post-1241421
 
I think it is something that happens to Light Pink. My Paulson colour sample and the Horseshould Cleveland $500 show the same yellowing

This HSI is half cleaned.
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Here is another cleaned vs dirty:
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It is near impossible to get out of the hats and thr edges but in lower light conditions (like I play in), I dont think anyone will notice.
I find it interesting that the inlay color more closely matches the "stained" chip. Almost like Paulson expects it to turn that color.
 
Exposure to low light (no uv) and nitrous oxidation most likely. Stored somewhere like a warehouse using propane forklifts is my guess
Anyone just leave a few in the sun to soak up some uv and see if it makes a difference? May not, if anyone could try a quick hydrogen peroxide bath on one it might help.
The discoloration actually occurs under the inlay on some chips as well, not sure how that effects your theory.
 
The discoloration actually occurs under the inlay on some chips as well, not sure how that effects your theory.
Gasses tend to seep into very very small places. NOx is probably the culprit, but just keep scrubbing if you think it’s a spray on costing.
There’s this thing in nature called a chain reaction, where a reaction can continue to propagate even in areas you did not anticipate.
 
Anybody else have some other light pink examples?
I just scrubbed 1600 used HSI primaries by hand with magic erasers so I am not afraid to scrub these. I am willing to clean them once but dread the return of the yellow goo.
 
Just a headsup that an Ultrasonic clean wont do it for these, they need a good scrub with the magic eraser to get the film off. Post ultrasonic the film still came off on my hand.

I actually use a 2 bucket/eraser cleaning method as the yellow gets everywhere in the first clean. So far it takes me on average an hour per barrel.

I'd be very happy if someone comes up with a quicker method!

Also, I wouldn't recommend playing with them preclean, the film that comes off isnt always visible, but is very much visible under a black light.

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Here is one rack done, I may go over some of these again as I've found I've gotten more proficient at removing the yellow.

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Pros with these chips:
- great bargain
- inlays come off very easy (no nail polish remover required)
- make a great $0.25

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Yes please and thank you. I’ll take dibs on that clean rack.
 
Ya I’ve battled this with the Cleveland 500. It’s the gift that just keep on giving. Must be the chip formula.
I think it is something that happens to Light Pink. My Paulson colour sample and the Horseshould Cleveland $500 show the same yellowing

This HSI is half cleaned.
View attachment 622135

Here is another cleaned vs dirty:
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It is near impossible to get out of the hats and thr edges but in lower light conditions (like I play in), I dont think anyone will notice.
 
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Has anyone noticed the yellow stuff on the secondary 5s and 25s? Take a white cotton rag to them and it'll show.

I dont have any snappers (yet) so I'm not 100% sure if its the same stuff.
I actually lightly oiled a barrel of 25 secondary, and I was wondering were the yellow color left in the cloth/rag was coming from... good point!
 
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Exposure to low light (no uv) and nitrous oxidation most likely. Stored somewhere like a warehouse using propane forklifts is my guess
Anyone just leave a few in the sun to soak up some uv and see if it makes a difference? May not, if anyone could try a quick hydrogen peroxide bath on one it might help.
I was wondering if hydrogen peroxide has ever been used on chips. Was thinking about stopping at the casino on my way home to get a few $1’s and try. Just not sure if it degrades chip composition.
 
It does give you motivation to handle these and get them into play though. Once cleaned, I imagine if you use them regularly, the return of the yellow goo will be less noticeable as it would be absorbed by your players’ hands, other chips, and table in small amounts. So get these chips in play and suppress that yellow goo!
 
I was wondering if hydrogen peroxide has ever been used on chips. Was thinking about stopping at the casino on my way home to get a few $1’s and try. Just not sure if it degrades chip composition.
With all the warping and discoloration I’m revising my guess to these were stored in a warehouse, higher up on shelves located next to an industrial forced air gas powered hanging furnace. The heat, and nox from the near combustion off gasses probably bled in over time and caused this.
 
With all the warping and discoloration I’m revising my guess to these were stored in a warehouse, higher up on shelves located next to an industrial forced air gas powered hanging furnace. The heat, and nox from the near combustion off gasses probably bled in over time and caused this.
None of this explains the fact that private color sample chips have the same problem. Is more likely that the compound degrades over time. A real shame too; might make this sale a hard pass for me.
 
None of this explains the fact that private color sample chips have the same problem. Is more likely that the compound degrades over time. A real shame too; might make this sale a hard pass for me.
It may be a very slow process. I also suspect all the new chip dust has contributed to the yellow dust. Any estimate on when these chips were manufactured?

The Horseshoe Cleveland $500 i cleaned don't show any sign of getting worse (I cleaned them 2+ years ago I think).
 
It may be a very slow process. I also suspect all the new chip dust has contributed to the yellow dust. Any estimate on when these chips were manufactured?

The Horseshoe Cleveland $500 i cleaned don't show any sign of getting worse (I cleaned them 2+ years ago I think).
Still, this thread makes me feel like all of my little chips in the basement are ticking time bombs.

it's good to know that the ones that you've cleaned haven't come back in two years. But still, if you said that after cleaning I would get a solid 2 years I don't know if that would be enough. The fact that they could spew all their goo over my table gives me nightmares.

Maybe I'll take a look at the secondary $5 and $25's that I have since someone else mentioned here that they also have similar problems. Although that was the case then it would also hurt the argument that this is a color issue. What are the facts:
  • The secondary HSI pink chips have the problem.
  • A Paulson color sample, as well as other Paulson chips of the same color, have the problem
  • The film is not normal dirt. An ultrasonic does not get rid of it.
Now all those facts seem to indicate that it's a general problem with this color chip. However if it also affects other HSIs, then this could mean that it's a general problem across all Paulsons of this generation.
 
Maybe I'll take a look at the secondary $5 and $25's that I have since someone else mentioned here that they also have similar problems.

I am skeptical that these chips have the same problem. It may just be some of the residue/powder from these got onto some other chips. It does spread like crazy if you aren't aware of it.

Some chip boxes under black light (the film really shows up under black light) covered before I realized it was spreading.

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