Tourney Tourney set with flexibility - help me (1 Viewer)

[William White]

I've got a hefty 2500 chip cash game set of Milanos.

I'd like to get a tourney set of Nexgens.

I want to buy somewhere around 600-800 chips. I could go as high as 1000 but that seems a little excessive, I think.

I would like to have quite a bit of flexibility in what kind of tournaments I can host. In other words, I don't just want a set breakdown for a - say - 20 person 10k set, or a 30 person 5k set, or whatever. I want to have a quantity of each denomination that can allow me to host anywhere from a 10 to a 30 person tourney with anywhere from a 5k to a 25k starting stack. That's not set it stone, but do you get my point?

I'm wondering if anyone has thoughts/ideas related to what quantities of denominations I should buy to have a wide range of flexibility. Thank you SO MUCH! I love this forum and all your expertise.

Also, it may be useful to consider there is a blue Nexgen chip that has no denomination. Could be used for any amount.

 

[RichMahogany]

240/240/120/240/100

T25/T100/T500/T1000/T5000

Up to 20 players at 12/12/5/6/x

Up to 30 players at 8/8/4/7/X

 

[BGinGA]

240 x T25
240 x T100
120 x T500
240 x T1000
120 x T5000
40 x T25000
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1000 chips

Up to 30 players with T50K stacks and sufficient color-up chips, and every possible smaller configuration.

 

[JustinInMN]

For 30 players in any configuration 240/240/120/100 (total 700) is the bare minimum for T5000 stacks and color ups. You need many more chips to go to the higher bounds of your requirements.

The two suggestions for 1000 chip sets above are good options.

 

[AWenger]

240 x T25
240 x T100
120 x T500
240 x T1000
120 x T5000
40 x T25000
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1000 chips

Up to 30 players with T50K stacks and sufficient color-up chips, and every possible smaller configuration.

The OP provided good detail in his questions/needs, and I don't think there is any better answer or breakdown than this. Success story. This thread can probably be closed now.

 

[William White]

Thank you everyone! So succinct and helpful!

 

[andy699669]

I'm guessing the 250-250-125-250-125 or 25%-25%-12.5%-25%-12.5% is the standard distribution for tournament sets.

 

[JustinInMN]

I'm guessing the 250-250-125-250-125 or 25%-25%-12.5%-25%-12.5% is the standard distribution for tournament sets.

To be a little more specific, 8/8/4 of T25/100/500 is really the minimum number of chips per player for these three denominations in base T25 torunaments, plus the number of T1000 need to increase the starting stacks (7 to make T10k) plus one extra T1000 per player to color up the T25 and T100.

The higher denominations are a matter of taste for padding the set for re-entries or having very large stacks.

 

[BGinGA]

And also noteworthy that it only applies to 3-table T25-base sets. Smaller tournament sets, or sets that are not T25-base, will have different optimal numbers.... meaning that this generalization is NOT valid most of the time, even just the percentages:

I'm guessing the 250-250-125-250-125 or 25%-25%-12.5%-25%-12.5% is the standard distribution for tournament sets.

In addition, most high-end chips are not sold in increments of 25. And many people prefer to both purchase and store chips in quantities of 20, which are conducive to storage in acrylic racks.

 

[andy699669]

And also noteworthy that it only applies to 3-table T25-base sets. Smaller tournament sets, or sets that are not T25-base, will have different optimal numbers.... meaning that this generalization is NOT valid most of the time, even just the percentages:

In addition, most high-end chips are not sold in increments of 25. And many people prefer to both purchase and store chips in quantities of 20, which are conducive to storage in acrylic racks.

I'm saying that because most people who gets their first set of chips, usually gets economy to premium-economy chips that are always sold in 25-rolls.
Base 5: 5-5-4-1 or 4-4-3-1 (5-25-100-500)
Base 25: 2-2-1-2-1 (25-100-500-1000-5000)
Base 100: 4-2-4-3-1 (100-500-1000-5000-25000)

 

[TexRex]

After playing around with this a bit, I think BG's suggested breakdown is probably the best you could do within 1000 chips. You could play with 2x500s with 30, and 3x500s with 20, and get a few more higher value chips, but it wouldn't play as well. 8x25 and 8x100 is not ideal, but you could do it in a pinch.

I absolutely agree with his idea of 50K per player! Way too many people don't consider future possible changes and rebuys.

If I were seriously buying a tournament set for 30 with T25 as a base, I'd really want at least 1250 chips. I have 2 tournament sets built for 30 that could stretch to 40 if needed -- 1500 chips is about the min, and mine are 1600+. As time goes on, I really appreciate the flexibility.

Andy, if going economy, that's all the more reason to get more chips. If you really have to buy in 25s, you are better off getting 24 of a chip you don't need than being 1 short of a chip you really do need. If it's economy, extras shouldn't be that expensive. However, there is one thing you can usually do, and that is not have all chip stacks identical. I've done that so that 20-33% of the chip stacks have fewer chips to stretch a set.

 

[William White]

Thanks for the great advice. Unfortunately, seems every website is out of the black 100 denomination Nexgen Pro chips. Just have to wait it out I guess.