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I know there are a tonne of threads on set breakdowns, which I’d use if I was building a set from scratch.

I currently have the chips below, but am going to take out the 2 racks of blue chips because they are more worn than the rest. I have bought 2 racks of lilac chips from navels to replace them.

I’m also looking at buying 2-3 racks of one more colour, maybe to replace the black chips but possibly I might keep both.

I’m looking at having a set that can handle up to 3 tables.Can anyone suggest which chips should be which denom (based on chip totals I have rather than colour, i don’t mind having odd colours for denoms).
Should I buy 2 or 3 racks of one more colour?

Chip overkill is fine, these will barely see play and will more be for sitting on my shelf looking nice.
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I presume your building a cash set Mike

Micro (5 cent and up) or 25c and up ?

Wil not be easy with given breakdow (need more chips)

Blue or Lilac for quarters (600)
White for $1 (600)
Red for $5 (300)
Black for $20 (100)

Trade tan & blue chips for more white/red :)
 
I presume your building a cash set Mike

Micro (5 cent and up) or 25c and up ?

Wil not be easy with given breakdow (need more chips)

Blue or Lilac for quarters (600)
White for $1 (600)
Red for $5 (300)
Black for $20 (100)

Trade tan & blue chips for more white/red :)
I was originally thinking cash and was going to go for
0.25 - red (200)
1.00 - lilac (200)
5.00 - tan (400)
20.00 - new colour (200)
100.00 - white (100)

But I’m thinking a tourney set might be better since i already have the AS cash set and my incoming custom cash set.

It’s going to be tough adding to my existing racks since I don’t know what the exact colours are.
 
T5 - 200 red
T25 - 200-300 green?
T100 - 400 tan (this is where it gets weird and I’m confused
T500 - 200 lilac
T1000 - 100 white
T5000 - 100 black (or a new colour)
 
I would also go for a tourney set

100 x 100 (black)
180 x 500 (lilac)
180 x 1000 (tan)
30 x 5000 (red)

You have left
120 x 1000 (tan) for color up 110K and you can trade 1 rack
70 x 5000 (for rebuys)
50 x 10/25K (white) and trade 50 chips

For 3 tables you will need (10/6/6/1 for 15K):

200 more black
 
The breakdown for a three table tournament chipset usually looks something like this:

240 x $25
260 x $100
120 x $500
240 x $1000
100 x $5000

With the chipset you are building:

300 x 25
300 x 100
100 x 500
300 x 1000
100 x 5000

Green is primarily used as your 25 chip, but I think tan would work fine.

I would use black as your 100 chip and maybe blues as your 1000's and reds as your 5000's

You could use your white chip as your 500, but I would look for a rack of yellows.

Or you can do the following:

T25's tan
T100's red
T500's black
T1000's blue
T5000's orange (if available)
Green would also work.
 
But I’m thinking a tourney set might be better since i already have the AS cash set and my incoming custom cash set.

It’s going to be tough adding to my existing racks since I don’t know what the exact colours are.

400x5(or what ever you have)
200x25
200x100
100x500
100x1000

25 Player T$5000 10/6/8/4/2 or 15/5/8/4/2
25 Player T$1500 one Rebuy with T$2000 Add-on 15/5/8/1

Have Fun
 
A couple more additions to the set, not really added with breakdowns in mind lol, but now I find myself with the following.
I guess I could go with the bottom breakdown
Tan - 25
Green - 100
Lilac - 500
Red - 1000
White - 5000
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Whichever chips you use for each denomination, here are my favorite breakdowns;

For 3 tables of 10, I like 240/240/120/240/100. Can handle up to 20 players at 12/12/5/6/X and up to 30 at 8/8/4/7/X.

For 3 tables of 8, I like 200/200/100/200/80(or 100). Up to 16 players at 12/12/5/6/X and up to 24 at 8/8/4/7/X
 
Whichever chips you use for each denomination, here are my favorite breakdowns;

For 3 tables of 10, I like 240/240/120/240/100. Can handle up to 20 players at 12/12/5/6/X and up to 30 at 8/8/4/7/X.

For 3 tables of 8, I like 200/200/100/200/80(or 100). Up to 16 players at 12/12/5/6/X and up to 24 at 8/8/4/7/X
^ perfect.
 
I would swtich green and tan personally just to have green 25s and it's okay to have fewer of those than 100s, that would speed up the first color up.

So you could do 28 identical stacks of 8/13/3/7 this way. You can sure squeeze out other configurations as well without having identical stacks.
 
Whichever chips you use for each denomination, here are my favorite breakdowns;

For 3 tables of 10, I like 240/240/120/240/100. Can handle up to 20 players at 12/12/5/6/X and up to 30 at 8/8/4/7/X.

For 3 tables of 8, I like 200/200/100/200/80(or 100). Up to 16 players at 12/12/5/6/X and up to 24 at 8/8/4/7/X

Those breakdowns do not include any color-up chips, correct?
 
So you don't gradually color up every denom? I.e. T25->T100, T100->T500, T500->T1000, ...
I was figuring if you don't do that, no longer needed denoms would stay way too long at the table, unless you're using antes maybe. Is it not as much of an issue as I'm thinking?
 
So you don't gradually color up every denom? I.e. T25->T100, T100->T500, T500->T1000, ...
I was figuring if you don't do that, no longer needed denoms would stay way too long at the table, unless you're using antes maybe. Is it not as much of an issue as I'm thinking?
One word for that, POINTLESS, in a bad way. Good colour-up armaments should be the chip that you are sure will be used ALL the time. For example, 8UP T10,000 with 12-12-?-? will have 2400 in greens and 9600 in blacks. The armaments needed are 3 T1,000 to WEED the greens and 10 T1000 for BlackOUTs.
 
Usually at my casino, one person (usually the big stack) buys up all the chips to be removed for each table. So if there's 2000 green on the table, one person ends up with it and recieves 2 yellows.

Here's the basic process.
1) player buys up all the green chips in quantities of 100. Usually players will add black to make quantities of 500. Put the green chips in a rack.

2) deal for the race of the odd chips, collecting player pays off the winners in black chips and adds the green chips from the race to the rack

3) player collecting the green recieves high denomination chips for what's in the rack. Usually 2000-2500.

This way you aren't adding chips that are just coming out at the next color up.
 
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So you don't gradually color up every denom? I.e. T25->T100, T100->T500, T500->T1000, ...
Never. I don't add chips to a table that will have to be subsequently removed later.

Color-up using workhorse chips that will remain in play and see use through to the end of the event. Remove specific denomination chips once they are no longer needed for play.
 
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Never. I don't add chips to a table that will have to be subsequently removed later.

Color-up using workhorse chips that will remain in play and see use through to the end of the event. Remove specific denomination chips once they are no longer needed for play.
Just for curiosity, how to mow the odd 2400 in Greens with 3x T1000 chips? Is anyone who's willing to grab ALL of the greens gets ALL the yellow, which will be the slave chips that will be always available?
 
Just for curiosity, how to mow the odd 2400 in Greens with 3x T1000 chips?
Assuming 3000 in T25s sit on the table (10 players x 12 T25s per starting stack), just take 3 x T1000 chips from the 'vault':
  • if ALL of the T25 chips have been purchased by one player (pretty unlikely), exchange the 3 x T1000 chips for the 120 x T25 chips in his stack
  • if MOST of the T25 chips on the table have been purchased by one player (leaving the other players with just an 'odd' number of T25s totaling less than T100), then exchange the 3 x T1000 chips for however many T25 chips he does have, and get the balance in T100 chips to be used to race-off the other odd T25 chips left on the table
  • if NONE of the T25 chips on the table have been purchased by one player (leaving all players with random numbers of T25 chips), then exchange the 3 x T1000 chips with the big stack for a mix of T100 and T500 chips, to be used to color-up the individual players (and race-off the other odd T25 chips remaining on the table afterwards)
If there are only 2400 in T25 chips on the table (say for just 8 players with 12 T25s per starting stack), then the same logic applies.... although there would be 6x T100 chips going back in the vault after color-up (the excess over T2400 when 3x T1000 chips were introduced).

Sounds fairly efficient regarding total number of chips needed, but I'm curious: That's not how it is done at the WSOP, is it?
Dunno about the WSOP, but I've never had all of my T25s chips replaced by just T100 chips (or T100s by just T500s) at any casino tournament I've ever attended. If I have T400 in quarters (16 chips), they will take another T100 chip from my stack and give me a T500 rather than give me 4 x T100s. Pretty common practice in my experience.
 

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