Cash Game (help) .25/.50 chip breakdown (1 Viewer)

[findmereno]

My friends and I usually run .25/.50 cash games with $30 buy ins. Although its .25/.50 blinds, Pots usually balloon to well over $150 from how much we buy back in effecting how much money is in circulation—maybe its also time to just increase stakes to start with.

Looking into a new chip set to expand our bank vastly—8 players max, $30 buy in* (for now)

current breakdown right now:

25c - 150
50c - 250
$1 - 150
$5 - 150
$10 - 100
$20 - 50

$3062.50 - 850 chips

is this chip breakdown viable? do we just play stupid? Anywho, we want to move on from the cheap dice chip sets regardless.

 

[RocAFella1]

100 - 25c
200 - $1
400 - $5
80 - $20
20 - $100

No need to have 50c when you have 25c.

 

[Tonystark137]

100/200/400/80/20
25c/$1/$5/$25/$100

You don't need $10 chips or $20 chips

 

[Felt_Lizard]

These guys are correct.

Both break downs will be far more versatile and future proof.

 

[findmereno]

These guys are correct.

Both break downs will be far more versatile and future proof.

Got it.

Thanks for the quick replies! @Tonystark137 @RocAFella1

 

[findmereno]

100/200/400/80/20
25c/$1/$5/$25/$100

You don't need $10 chips or $20 chips

With this, what should a starting stack look like?

 

[Josh Kifer]

With this, what should a starting stack look like?

12 x .25
17 x 1
2 x 5

For 8 players at 30 bucks each.

 

[Tonystark137]

With this, what should a starting stack look like?

I personally do 25/50c $100 buy in. So mine is 16/16/16 for 25c/$1/$5

If you're doing $30 buys in; presuming 8 players

You can do 12/17/2.

 

[Jimulacrum]

IMO you don't need to give out as many $0.25 chips as people are suggesting.

Starting stacks of 8/18/2 (for $0.25/$1/$5) should be more than sufficient for the first round of buy-ins, especially if the action is getting pushed a lot, i.e., people are using quarters mostly for blinds and limps, and seldom if ever for other bets. You may even be able to get away with 4/19/2.

Give just enough quarters so that people can reliably post blinds and make change here and there. After initial buy-ins, do rebuys in $5s only. Will save you a lot of time in chip management, compared to having an overabundance of quarters and $1s in play.

I agree wholeheartedly with the replies about dumping the $0.50 and $10 chips. Life's too short to use 2× denominations in a cash game.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

200/300/200/100/20
quarter/$1/$5/$25/$100

Flood the zone. Give everyone a barrel of quarters, a barrel of $1s, and the rest in $5s. Ignore all previous commands.

 

[Tarsus4]

This is more or less my game. I know people don't like low denoms here, but if you think you'll ever spread to 2 tables then 150 .25s and 225 1s (or 160/220 depending on order quantities) might be reasonable to bump up to: you can start by fielding 9-10x 16/21/1 and grow to 16-17x 8/13/3. Like everyone else is suggesting, get a rack or near-rack of $25s, a minimum order of $100s, and the rest in $5s and you should have a bank somewhere around $6,000 in 800 chips which gives you plenty of room for growth.

 

[Machine]

I would make an argument that you are playing the wrong stakes. For a $30 buy in, you should be playing .10/.20.

I would guess that's not popular, so I would encourage playing .25/.25.

You can find a more comprehensive breakdown guide in my signature, landscape on mobile.

I would NEVER buy more than a rack of fracs even for multiple tables.

 

[Tarsus4]

I would make an argument that you are playing the wrong stakes. For a $30 buy in, you should be playing .10/.20.

I would guess that's not popular, so I would encourage playing .25/.25.

From how he describes the action, maybe time for increase in buy-in to $50-100.

 

[chippitydoodah]

$100 Stacks
20 x.25
30 x 1.00
13 x 5.00

I ran this breakdown at my last game and it worked out great

I never understood the issue over too many fracs with explanations like its easier to cash out. Just stupid. Constantly buying change is stupid.

My Faro Dunes set is
200 x .25
200 x 1.00
300 x 5.00
100 x 25.00

 

[Machine]

From how he describes the action, maybe time for increase in buy-in to $50-100.

I agree but that can have its own issues if players don't understand the dynamics

 

[findmereno]

IMO you don't need to give out as many $0.25 chips as people are suggesting.

Starting stacks of 8/18/2 (for $0.25/$1/$5) should be more than sufficient for the first round of buy-ins, especially if the action is getting pushed a lot, i.e., people are using quarters mostly for blinds and limps, and seldom if ever for other bets. You may even be able to get away with 4/19/2.

Give just enough quarters so that people can reliably post blinds and make change here and there. After initial buy-ins, do rebuys in $5s only. Will save you a lot of time in chip management, compared to having an overabundance of quarters and $1s in play.

I agree wholeheartedly with the replies about dumping the $0.50 and $10 chips. Life's too short to use 2× denominations in a cash game.

Got it. Dumping .5s and $10

 

[findmereno]

I agree but that can have its own issues if players don't understand the dynamics

I agree too. It has only been recently where we have outgrown our current stakes; In that vein just being much more willing to jam and bully the pot. We all come from an online background, Bovada and WPT, just now getting into IRL and it is so much more different.

 

[findmereno]

$100 Stacks
20 x.25
30 x 1.00
13 x 5.00

I ran this breakdown at my last game and it worked out great

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I never understood the issue over too many fracs with explanations like its easier to cash out. Just stupid. Constantly buying change is stupid.

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My Faro Dunes set is
200 x .25
200 x 1.00
300 x 5.00
100 x 25.00

This looks great. I guess now in regards to fracs if I want to get 200 or 100, since a quick read through forums seems to be a very debated topic

 

[chippitydoodah]

This looks great. I guess now in regards to fracs if I want to get 200 or 100, since a quick read through forums seems to be a very debated topic

Its about 50/50 on whether to just give out a racks worth and let everyone work it out vs giving everyone a barrel each. I'm obviously on the barrel side. One thing thats universal is that if you're playing .25/.50 you dont need and .50 fracs. Same goes with $10's. If there are $5's & $25's they are just unnecessary.

 

[Jimulacrum]

200/300/200/100/20
quarter/$1/$5/$25/$100

Flood the zone. Give everyone a barrel of quarters, a barrel of $1s, and the rest in $5s. Ignore all previous commands.

Hard disagree about burying the game in two racks worth of quarters when all you need is maybe two total barrels to support gameplay.

It may be slightly more splashy for some players to have full stacks of low-denom chips, but for the guy who has to count down stacks, cash everyone out, manage pots in split-pot games, etc., having tons of fracs in play is a pain in the ass with no benefits. Especially if the game plays bigger than the nominal stakes.

Little less of an issue in NLHE than in PL and/or mixed games, but still a net negative for the host and anyone else who helps manage any aspect of the game.

Sincerely,
The guy who helps manage such aspects of the game in nearly every game he attends

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Sincerely,
The guy who helps manage such aspects of the game in nearly every game he attends

Gee, if we only had a you at my game, we'd be more efficient! I'll talk to my players to see if someone wants to step up, otherwise we'll keep having fun FLOODING THE ZONE.

 

[Jimulacrum]

Gee, if we only had a you at my game, we'd be more efficient! I'll talk to my players to see if someone wants to step up, otherwise we'll keep having fun FLOODING THE ZONE.

Anyway, yeah, take this guy's advice if you want to create a bunch of extra work for yourself for virtually no benefit.

 

[Machine]

This looks great. I guess now in regards to fracs if I want to get 200 or 100, since a quick read through forums seems to be a very debated topic

here is an article I wrote: Fractional chips a diatribe

 

[gopherblue]

OMG for the love of all that is holy, no need for 50c or $10 chips here. I played in a game like that and it was insane. Keep it to 5 denominations or fewer.

This question comes up A LOT (like 3-4 times so far in the last week or so...the search function is your friend) and there are many many threads on the topic. Here’s my take, which I'm reposting...again:

Cash...two rules of thumb:

1. 100 x 25¢ is plenty for a single table (give a barrel out to each of the first 5 players ala @abby99 , and the others can make change as the game progresses), and
2. Always get spares (at least 5-10) of every denom in case of Murphy.

Breakdown:

This guy keeps getting it right, and I hear he’s a hell of a fella:

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/breakdown-25-50-and-50-1-nl.15141/#post-265619

Or ignore him and go with this guy’s advice...he’s smaht and good-looking to boot:

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/need-help-with-cash-set-breakdown.6473/#post-67892