Cash Game Future-proofing a cash set (breakdown question) (1 Viewer)

[boltonguy]

Hi,

Looking to future-proof my cash set. Not likely that we'll ever play $2/$5 but I can dream, right. Current HSI set:

$0.25 x 100
$1 x 300
$5 x 600
$25 x 200
$100 x 80
$500 x 20

I know the bank is there to cover one table of 8-10 players at $2/$5 but will the breakdown support smooth play?
Would I be better off adding 2 racks of $5 and a rack of $25?

Or should I just stop buying chips????

Thx!

 

[davislane]

i keep having the same problem. the desire to buy more chips is strong

 

[RichMahogany]

I’ve never played $2/$5 but am working on a similar set.

My breakdown goal is 100/200/800-1000/180/100/20 for one table

 

[davislane]

I’ve never played $2/$5 but am working on a similar set.

My breakdown goal is 100/200/800-1000/180/100/20 for one table

what range of stakes are you playing with that set and how many tsbles?

 

[RichMahogany]

what range of stakes are you playing with that set and how many tsbles?

Usually .50/$1 or $1/$1 one table. That’s the set goal, not what I have now although my current numbers aren’t that far off. Still need labels so we haven’t put it into play yet.

 

[davislane]

Usually .50/$1 or $1/$1 one table. That’s the set goal, not what I have now although my current numbers aren’t that far off. Still need labels so we haven’t put it into play yet.

100 x $0.25?
200 x $1?
800-1000 x $5?
180 x $25?
100 x $100?
20 x $500?

 

[Rhodeman77]

Hi,

Looking to future-proof my cash set. Not likely that we'll ever play $2/$5 but I can dream, right. Current HSI set:

$0.25 x 100
$1 x 300
$5 x 600
$25 x 200
$100 x 80
$500 x 20

I know the bank is there to cover one table of 8-10 players at $2/$5 but will the breakdown support smooth play?
Would I be better off adding 2 racks of $5 and a rack of $25?

Or should I just stop buying chips????

Thx!

this will cover 1 table of any home game you could grow to up to $5/10 pretty easily.

you have plenty of every workhorse chip. This set is done, unless you want to cover a second table that is.

time to start the next set!

 

[RichMahogany]

100 x $0.25?
200 x $1?
800-1000 x $5?
180 x $25?
100 x $100?
20 x $500?

0.50 in place of 0.25 but yeah, you got it

 

[davislane]

geez thats a lot of $5s for a single table 1/1 game

 

[RichMahogany]

geez thats a lot of $5s for a single table 1/1 game

Not when it’s your workhorse. Besides, I want at least one ridiculously sized set haha

 

[davislane]

nice pics of your home game and the chip set you are using

 

[PocketAces]

0.50 in place of 0.25 but yeah, you got it

working on that massive Camino set ?

 

[surfik]

Just get more 25 and 100s

 

[RichMahogany]

working on that massive Camino set ?

lol I’d actually like to build a few sets this way, but no. Another set

 

[dmoney]

Not likely that we'll ever play $2/$5

Same for me...now I'm thinking I probably should have more in that off chance we ever played 2/5 - same as the OP. I built this breakdown and thought it might hold up shorthanded or in that very rare occasion:

100x non-denom (.25 or .50)
200x $1
300x $5
160x $25
40x $100
20x $500

With all of the $5s and $25s on the table that would be 11 buyins at $500, with up to 8 rebuys handled in $100s, and $500s used as value storage. Am I off base?

 

[TheDuke]

I think your set is well equipped to handle 2/5 as is.

More chips is always better - get 2 more racks of $25s just to be sure.

 

[L3urntout]

Seems like plenty, not sure how many BB deep or how splashy everyone is but i think a barrel more 500s would make it ironclad... I know some of our 2/4 tables can get pretty degen (we cap at 1k BB generally) we've had more than 20k on the table. But we play deeeeep

 

[Mr Winberg]

Or should I just stop buying chips????

 

[JustinInMN]

I know the bank is there to cover one table of 8-10 players at $2/$5 but will the breakdown support smooth play?
Would I be better off adding 2 racks of $5 and a rack of $25?

Or should I just stop buying chips????

You already have 6 racks of fives and those would mainly be blind chips in a 2-5 game. If anything 2 more racks of 25s and call it good if you really think you will get up to those stakes. (Maybe 4 more racks if you think it's possible you would want two tables worth at these stakes.) Otherwise I think what you have is just fine for all stakes. from 0.25-0.25 to 5-10 blinds.

As far as future proofing goes, I think it's a bit overrated. $100 today was worth about $130 in 2005 dollars when I really started taking up hosting games. So if you were playing 0.25-0.50 then, maybe you would be playing 0.25-0.75 today instead? In those 15 years I have gone though six sets than I can count: Michael Graves chips from Target, Super Diamonds, Dice Chips, Black Diamond, ABS 8-Stripe, and now Sunfly ceramic hybrids. Bottom line, if your stakes change for the higher, you can afford new sets .

I think it's good to plan for varying stakes. My set will comfortably cover 0.10-0.10 up to 1-3 pretty easily, but the range of 0.25-0.25 to 5-10 is almost absurdly wide. And that said in 15 years you will probably come up with new ideas for chip sets or find new chips that you want instead of maintaining a current set. I don't think any of the denominations I have will be obsolete in 20 years time from now. And if I find I need to add on to accommodate higher stakes, well presumably affording chips isn't a problem.

 

[Chipandchair]

You already have 6 racks of fives and those would mainly be blind chips in a 2-5 game. If anything 2 more racks of 25s and call it good if you really think you will get up to those stakes. (Maybe 4 more racks if you think it's possible you would want two tables worth at these stakes.) Otherwise I think what you have is just fine for all stakes. from 0.25-0.25 to 5-10 blinds.

As far as future proofing goes, I think it's a bit overrated. $100 today was worth about $130 in 2005 dollars when I really started taking up hosting games. So if you were playing 0.25-0.50 then, maybe you would be playing 0.25-0.75 today instead? In those 15 years I have gone though six sets than I can count: Michael Graves chips from Target, Super Diamonds, Dice Chips, Black Diamond, ABS 8-Stripe, and now Sunfly ceramic hybrids. Bottom line, if your stakes change for the higher, you can afford new sets .

I think it's good to plan for varying stakes. My set will comfortably cover 0.10-0.10 up to 1-3 pretty easily, but the range of 0.25-0.25 to 5-10 is almost absurdly wide. And that said in 15 years you will probably come up with new ideas for chip sets or find new chips that you want instead of maintaining a current set. I don't think any of the denominations I have will be obsolete in 20 years time from now. And if I find I need to add on to accommodate higher stakes, well presumably affording chips isn't a problem.

Those Michael graves chips are cheap and actually feel pretty good.

 

[Chris Flynn]

Just a thought, if you find yourself regularly playing 2/5 I would suggest you consider a custom CPC set. A 2/5 game could easily have $10,000 or more in play. Beyond having enough chips to support a game like that you may want to think about security against someone bringing chips into the game that they bought from eBay etc.

 

[Rhodeman77]

Just a thought, if you find yourself regularly playing 2/5 I would suggest you consider a custom CPC set. A 2/5 game could easily have $10,000 or more in play. Beyond having enough chips to support a game like that you may want to think about security against someone bringing chips into the game that they bought from eBay etc.

or have 10 sets you rotate through and even buy/sell some of those as well so nobody knows what set you are using on any given night.

 

[Kimbap]

What do you guys think of this breakdown for a .25/.25 and future proofing to $1/$2? Hoping to seat around 8 people and around 4-5 rebuys.

200 - $0.25
200 - $1
200 - $5
and potentially buying a barrel of $25 or should I buy a rack of $5s?

 

[Chipandchair]

Only need one rack of $.25

 

[davislane]

What do you guys think of this breakdown for a .25/.25 and future proofing to $1/$2? Hoping to seat around 8 people and around 4-5 rebuys.

200 - $0.25
200 - $1
200 - $5
and potentially buying a barrel of $25 or should I buy a rack of $5s?

future-proofing for 1/2 you would definitely need more 5s as they would be your "workhorse" chip in that game.
8ppl x $200 buyin x 5 rebuys = $8000 bank . In this scenario, you probably would want at least 2 racks of $5s plus a rack of $25s plus 2 barrels of $100s


Edit. I assumed people would be potentially buying in for 4-5 times each not total. I assume everyone has crazy players in the group

if total then it would be (8 + 5) x $200 = $2600 bank. In this scenario, you probably would want at least 2 racks of $5s plus at least two barrels of $25s

 

[wolfpack]

What do you guys think of this breakdown for a .25/.25 and future proofing to $1/$2? Hoping to seat around 8 people and around 4-5 rebuys.

200 - $0.25
200 - $1
200 - $5
and potentially buying a barrel of $25 or should I buy a rack of $5s?

1 rack of quarters, add a rack of $5 a couple of barrels of 25 and a barrel of 100

 

[Kimbap]

1 rack of quarters, add a rack of $5 a couple of barrels of 25 and a barrel of 100

For .25/.25 wouldn't it be safe to have a extra rack of .25s?

Okay so im thinking
200 - .25
200 - $1
300 - $5
3 barrels of $25
1 barrel of $100
??

Only need one rack of $.25

Wouldn't they be my workhorse chips with $1 for .25/.25 and .25/.50?

 

[wolfpack]

No you don't need that many quarters unless everyone is super tight and just min raise all the time, and sine you are trying to future proof for 1/2 the .25 will be useless at that level, you can make chnage at the table when you need for blinds if someone runs out of quarters. in .25/.25 the $1 is still your workhorse chip, in 1/2 the $5 will become your workhorse

 

[dmoney]

As others have told me, a common 600-chip breakdown for .25/.25 through 1/2 is:

• 100x frac (I’d go non-denominated here for more flexibility i.e. it’s a .25 or .50 chip depending on the game that day/night)
• 200x $1
• 200x $5
• 80x $25 (or $20)
• 20x $100

Add another rack of $5s as desired. Or four barrels of $5s and another barrel of $25s and I think you’d be set.