TRK Money Tree set - CPC add-on? (2 Viewers)

[Darson]

I have a 4 racks of Money Tree 5s and 1 rack of 25s but want to make a cohesive playable 25c/25c set. I'm toying with the idea of ordering a rack of fracs and a couple racks of 1s from CPC. I appreciate that I'll have to modify the inlay a bit so my "Monkey Tree" is a placeholder.

Here's my first idea:

Originally I wanted a black 1 but in the event I get a few actual 100s, this would not work. Although realistically 100s would never see the felt so it remains an option. I would love yellow 1s but the CPC yellows don't do it for me. I also toyed with the idea of milling and relabelling TRK solids but the beauty of the scrown mold is the flush inlayed surface and finding TRK yellows would be cost prohibitive. What drew me to the money tree 5s is the bright colour so maybe dayglo green would make a better 1.

Thoughts/suggestions on the fracs and 1s?

 

[Ben8257]

I have herd of others thinking of doing the same thing, the Jesse Becks group buy, Possible Mapes fracs I know Pick Hobson Fracs are tough to find... do you have my concern with the difference in weight being an issue? Color scheme looks good. Personally I think I would go with a white and maroon quarter pie frac to compliment the $25 edge spot and not have 2 shades of blue... just a thought sir but they look great!!

 

[detroitdad]

It'll be fine to mix them. Saying that, i wouldn't do it. The trk feel and weight is to different imo than the cpcs.

 

[RichMahogany]

I think using some TRK solids to mill and relabel as fracs and $1s is a much better option. Strangely enough, the TRK solids and CPC scrown feel close enough that having a mixed set of them wouldn’t bother me but the difference between the CPC version and leaded casino TRKs is vast

 

[bsdunbar1]

The trk feel and weight is to different imo than the cpcs.

On first thought I agree with this, and noobs like us would feel the difference but has anyone mixed CPCs and TRKs in play to see how significant it really is in pay?

 

[detroitdad]

On first thought I agree with this, and noobs like us would feel the difference but has anyone mixed CPCs and TRKs in play to see how significant it really is in pay?

yes. I hated it. I mixed roulettes in with my new china club chips. Blah

 

[Darson]

Thanks for the input! I can imagine the weight being an issue with most casino TRKs but the Money Tree 5s are lighter than average for casino TRKs. The red Money Tree 5s are much heavier. The 25s weight a ton though but will rarely see the felt.

I had a small cash game where I used my Monte Carlo fantasy fracs with Nevada Lodge 1s and it wasn't a problem at all. I did get complements on the feel of the NLs though. I can imagine the difference with New China Club 1s being more pronounced since they're particularly heavy chips.

I also don't need 4 racks of Money Tree 5s either so if I sell two, that would cover the cost of the CPCs. I have a larger set of Pick Hobsons (with Nevada Lodge 1s) for bigger games.

@Ben8257 blue is my favourite colour but the red/white does look good!

 

[liftapint]

Looking really nice. At one time, I was going to mill and label green solids as MT $1s, and yellow solids as MT fracs. Someone on here did that (sorry I can't recall who had that lovely set). Lots of great TRK $5s out there, but tough to fill in the lower denom sets for TRK.

Exciting Darson. Love them.

 

[Ben8257]

Thanks for the input! I can imagine the weight being an issue with most casino TRKs but the Money Tree 5s are lighter than average for casino TRKs. The red Money Tree 5s are much heavier. The 25s weight a ton though but will rarely see the felt.

I had a small cash game where I used my Monte Carlo fantasy fracs with Nevada Lodge 1s and it wasn't a problem at all. I did get complements on the feel of the NLs though. I can imagine the difference with New China Club 1s being more pronounced since they're particularly heavy chips.

I also don't need 4 racks of Money Tree 5s either so if I sell two, that would cover the cost of the CPCs. I have a larger set of Pick Hobsons (with Nevada Lodge 1s) for bigger games.

@Ben8257 blue is my favourite colour but the red/white does look good!
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We all have opinions... I definitely like that marron color frac, look fantastic!! As far as weight, I am curious what your orange Money Trees weigh... I would say if they are the lighter ones (8.5 - 9.5 grams) and CPCs being (8 to 8.5 on the small crowns) then you should be fine! Thise $25s are probably 10.25 or better... we only have a couple of the red $5s and those are definitely leaded... have not put them on the scale but I would say about 10... definitely following to see others thoughts!!

 

[Ben8257]

On first thought I agree with this, and noobs like us would feel the difference but has anyone mixed CPCs and TRKs in play to see how significant it really is in pay?

I know that @arch3r is having Jesse Becks fracs made... and is planning to use them with real TRKs but I believe they are still in production.

 

[Coyote]

Forget about mixing different brands of clay.
So,
either: you endure many agonizing and humilating years of waiting, begging and overpaying to complete your TRK set and have your @ss (sorry, your wallet) bleed
or: you come to your senses, and psycologically develop the cold blood and harsh self-discipline necessary to sell all of your TRKs and build a CPC tribute to them.

Remember you have children (this argument can work both ways)

 

[Darson]

Forget about mixing different brands of clay.
So,
either: you endure many agonizing and humilating years of waiting, begging and overpaying to complete your TRK set and have your @ss (sorry, your wallet) bleed
or: you come to your senses, and psycologically develop the cold blood and harsh self-discipline necessary to sell all of your TRKs and build a CPC tribute to them.

Remember you have children (this argument can work both ways)

Now I feel like doing this just to spite you

 

[Coyote]

Now I feel like doing this just to spite you

Doing what?

 

[Darson]

Doing what?

Mixing different brands of clay - what were you thinking?

 

[Coyote]

Mixing different brands of clay - what were you thinking?

You won't get away with that here. The Clergy here, that is the Chipping Inquisition is ever-vigilant, and this is not going to end well
Anyway, do you have a barrel of labeled CPC Small Crowns in hand right now? To see how they feel in relation to the TRKs?

 

[Darson]

Anyway, do you have a barrel of labeled CPC Small Crowns in hand right now? To see how they feel in relation to the TRKs?

I do - or should say, I did (just sold my scrown colour sample set). For me, the continuous textured surface of the chip with the inlay is far more important than the weight. This is especially relevant for scrown chips as the only indentations are the crowns. It's also why I'm thinking of dropping my TRK solids mill and label project as the discontinuity of the chip surface may be a deal breaker for me.

Of course, the other major attraction of TRKs is the buttery leaded feel but there isn't a homogeneous casino TRK set out there with quarters up that is an option. So even if money was no object I'd end up with a mixed set anyway.

 

[Coyote]

I 'm only a deacon here, but you can have my blessing, awaiting the Bishops' ruling

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

do you have a barrel of labeled CPC Small Crowns in hand right now? To see how they feel in relation to the TRKs?

+1 this ^^^^

The lineup you have looks great!! But....

.... I was considering the same thing until I received a sample set of CPCs.

I have Money Trees and the weight difference between them and the CPC samples I had was very noticeable. You wouldn't think a gram or less makes a different, but the CPCs felt a little like plastic chips when I shuffled them. There is also a slight size difference in the chips. The CPCs are a bit bigger. That's harder to notice than the difference in weight.

Anyway...just my humble opinion.

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

.... the buttery leaded feel but there isn't a homogeneous casino TRK set ....

This is probably a better way of explaining it. That buttery leaded feel just wasn't there

 

[Darson]

I 'm only a deacon here, but you can have my blessing, awaiting the Bishops' ruling

The TRK Queen has said she's excited - that's all the blessing I need

This is probably a better way of explaining it. That buttery leaded feel just wasn't there

I weighed my scrown sample chips - there was quite a difference between the different colours and height difference also. Ultimately, there will have to be come compromise. But these are starting to look mighty appealing...

 

[XBobdog]

I milled some greens to make my MT $1's. Matches the weight and feel pretty well.

 

[XBobdog]

But IF i was gonna go CPC. I'd go tri-moon.

 

[BGinGA]

This is probably a better way of explaining it. That buttery leaded feel just wasn't there

Best way to alieviate this problem is to mix CPC chips with mint TRKs, since those haven't yet evolved to buttery status and are much closer to CPC chips in terms of feel.

And using the heaviest weighted colors offered by CPC helps in minimizing the weight differences. That means no dayglo/unweighted colors....

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

Best way to alieviate this problem is to mix CPC chips with mint TRKs, since those haven't yet evolved to buttery status and are much closer to CPC chips in terms of feel.

And using the heaviest weighted colors offered by CPC helps in minimizing the weight differences. That means no dayglo/unweighted colors....

Comparing them to mint TRKs was worse for my OCD....LOL. the CPCs just don't feel quite right to a TRK snob like me.

However, I am very curious to see if anybody has CPC scrowns that weigh 9 grams?? THAT might change my perspective.

 

[Darson]

I milled some greens to make my MT $1's. Matches the weight and feel pretty well.

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Wow, they look great. The only milled and labelled TRKs I've seen to date are @rjdev7 yellow Money Trees (which look sweet).

 

[RichMahogany]

Wow, they look great. The only milled and labelled TRKs I've seen to date are @rjdev7 yellow Money Trees (which look sweet).

One of the NE chippers has a few racks of scalloped labeled red chips. MT $5s or something? I forget who

 

[LabMonkey]

One of the NE chippers has a few racks of scalloped labeled red chips. MT $5s or something? I forget who

@MatB has them as quarters in his Nevada Lodge set.

 

[rjdev7]

 

[FordPickup92]

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Those are stunning

 

[PAZ]

Comparing them to mint TRKs was worse for my OCD....LOL. the CPCs just don't feel quite right to a TRK snob like me.

However, I am very curious to see if anybody has CPC scrowns that weigh 9 grams?? THAT might change my perspective.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/buying-these-trks-was-a-terrible-mistake.46706/post-965146