Windy Crest Poker Room - Plaque Design (1 Viewer)

[CraigT78]

So I am adding on to my tournament set with a 20k plaque and a 100k plaque. Wanted some feedback on design and colors.

Here is my existing set

And here are some mockups - I want to keep the shapes in line with the set, and need some help with some color choices. Here are a few mockups that @p5woody has done so far. Thanks in advance for the assistance!

 

[Gunnar]

I would go 20k yellow and red 100k
But i would swap the spots and have stars on the 100k

 

[TheBigTater]

Really enjoyed playing with the Windy Crests cash set at the Alamo, great set. It was a short game before the tourney, wish I had got to play with them longer.

I like these.

 

[BGinGA]

Go with a 25K plaque. Much more flexible.... using a 20K just requires that the T5000 chips remain in play longer than necessary, and you'll need more of them.

 

[CraigT78]

Go with a 25K plaque. Much more flexible.... using a 20K just requires that the T5000 chips remain in play longer than necessary, and you'll need more of them.

Can you talk me through this? My thought was 20 - 1k chips in a barrel, so I can pull all 4 racks off and color up to 20- 20k plaques. In the event I have a structure in place that would require a 100k plaque, I can then color up 5k chips - one barrel to one plaque. Where are my thoughts off?

 

[BGinGA]

It's more a function of the blind structure (although not completely). Once you reach the following levels (where T1000s have been replaced):
10000/20000
15000/30000
20000/40000
30000/60000
40000/80000
...it really doesn't matter which is used, since T5000 chips are needed either way (and it's about a wash from a blind construction effeciency perpective). But continuing on:
50000/100000
75000/150000
100000/200000
150000/300000
...you can clearly see the advantage of 25k vs 20k. With T25Ks, the T5000 chips are no longer needed and can be removed (after 40k/80k). But with T20Ks, the T5000s are still needed to construct four of those eight blind amounts, not to mention that it takes more chips in general just to post blinds:
50000 - 4 chips (2x20k + 2x5k) vs just 2 x 25k
75000 - 7 chips (3x20k + 3x5k) vs just 3 x 25k
150000 - 5 chips (100k + 2x20k + 2x5k) vs just 3 (100k + 2x25k)

In addition, it will require more T20K plaques to color-up the T1000s than it will if using T25Ks -- 25% more of them,, in fact. Your twenty T20K plaques (to replace 400 x T1000) can be handled by just sixteen T25Ks. The bigger the set, the worse it gets.

 

[CraigT78]

It's more a function of the blind structure (although not completely). Once you reach the following levels (where T1000s have been replaced):
10000/20000
15000/30000
20000/40000
30000/60000
40000/80000
...it really doesn't matter which is used, since T5000 chips are needed either way (and it's about a wash from a blind construction effeciency perpective). But continuing on:
50000/100000
75000/150000
100000/200000
150000/300000
...you can clearly see the advantage of 25k vs 20k. With T25Ks, the T5000 chips are no longer needed and can be removed (after 40k/80k). But with T20Ks, the T5000s are still needed to construct four of those eight blind amounts, not to mention that it takes more chips in general just to post blinds:
50000 - 4 chips (2x20k + 2x5k) vs just 2 x 25k
75000 - 7 chips (3x20k + 3x5k) vs just 3 x 25k
150000 - 5 chips (100k + 2x20k + 2x5k) vs just 3 (100k + 2x25k)

In addition, it will require more T20K plaques to color-up the T1000s than it will if using T25Ks -- 25% more of them,, in fact. Your twenty T20K plaques (to replace 400 x T1000) can be handled by just sixteen T25Ks. The bigger the set, the worse it gets.

Thank you for the detailed explanation - I think I will change to a 25k as I didn't consider the effect with the blind schedule.

Now how about the design? I know y'all have comments

 

[RowdyRawhide]

First yellow plaque and the 100k plaque position 6

 

[BGinGA]

Now how about the design? I know y'all have comments

Shapes:
I'd avoid duplicating the shapes already used on the chips. Star, circle, triangle, diamond, and square have already been used. Go with new ones for the plaques... like the oval and the rectangle. And don't overdo it -- simpler is better.

Colors:
In my head (always a dangerous place), I generally think of 25K chips as red, blue, or white (or all three, flags). Pay no attention to the many dark green 25K chips in existence. Since your chip colors already include a white chip, that's out -- leaving red or blue as my choices for a T25K, and with a pink T5000, I'd go with bright blue. For the T100K, either red or yellow will compliment the set nicely.

Design:
First off, all of the denominations on the plaques should face inward, just like on the chips.
Second, all of your chip denominations are placed at 1:30, 4:30, 7:30, and 10:30 locations. Putting them at 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock on the plaques just looks wrong. Put the denoms in the corners of the plaques.
Third, the plaques need to carry on your trademark "WC symbol in a circle" concept. Each chip has the WC symbol, surrounding circle, and "Windy Crest Poker Room" text using three colors, which are also used as the three colors for the chip base, denomination, and style shape. Keep that same concept on the plaques. Personally, I'd use two of them on each plaque in the center area, with one facing up and the other facing down -- so it looks the same no matter from what direction it is viewed.
Lastly, because it doesn't match the chips, I'd ditch the playing card mountain range graphic. Stick with what works well on the chips, and the plaques will match up much better.

 

[CraigT78]

Shapes:
I'd avoid duplicating the shapes already used on the chips. Star, circle, triangle, diamond, and square have already been used. Go with new ones for the plaques... like the oval and the rectangle. And don't overdo it -- simpler is better.

Colors:
In my head (always a dangerous place), I generally think of 25K chips as red, blue, or white (or all three, flags). Pay no attention to the many dark green 25K chips in existence. Since your chip colors already include a white chip, that's out -- leaving red or blue as my choices for a T25K, and with a pink T5000, I'd go with bright blue. For the T100K, either red or yellow will compliment the set nicely.

Design:
First off, all of the denominations on the plaques should face inward, just like on the chips.
Second, all of your chip denominations are placed at 1:30, 4:30, 7:30, and 10:30 locations. Putting them at 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock on the plaques just looks wrong. Put the denoms in the corners of the plaques.
Third, the plaques need to carry on your trademark "WC symbol in a circle" concept. Each chip has the WC symbol, surrounding circle, and "Windy Crest Poker Room" text using three colors, which are also used as the three colors for the chip base, denomination, and style shape. Keep that same concept on the plaques. Personally, I'd use two of them on each plaque in the center area, with one facing up and the other facing down -- so it looks the same no matter from what direction it is viewed.
Lastly, because it doesn't match the chips, I'd ditch the playing card mountain range graphic. Stick with what works well on the chips, and the plaques will match up much better.

Thank you for such detailed feedback - all of these are great suggestions! Time to apply some of them and see what it looks like

 

[SixSpeedFury]

Ceramic or MSK?

 

[CraigT78]

Ceramic or MSK?

Ceramic

 

[CraigT78]

Here is a first try at some of the suggestions @BGinGA had. My first thoughts is that it doesn't look as 'clean' as the first round above. I think the dropping the color behind the denom night help, but with it in the corners and the addition of Windy Crest on it - I might have too much going on here. What do y'all think? Colors are still a work in progress, but I think I want blue or red for the 25k and yellow and purple for the 100k.

 

[CraigT78]

Another revision.

I like the middle ones - I think it goes well with my set.

 

[TheBigTater]

I like the middle pair as well. The 100K sorta matches your $20 from the cash set (which I love).

 

[CraigT78]

I like the middle pair as well. The 100K sorta matches your $20 from the cash set (which I love).

Which is why I wanted those colors - that $20 chip is my favorite!

 

[CdnBeerLover]

Another vote here for the middle pair.

 

[CraigT78]

Another round of mock-ups.

 

[CraigT78]

Another round of mock-up. I really like 2 & 3

 

[WedgeRock]

I like the center design on #2 placed on the #5 background.

 

[p5woody]

I like the center design on #2 placed on the #5 background.

 

[CraigT78]

I like the center design on #2 placed on the #5 background.

So you like the wrapping boarder with the denom?

 

[CraigT78]

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That's interesting - how would the edge look? Extend the coloring to wrap, or just have it as a line of the symbols?

 

[TheBigTater]

Oooh, really like the new design on #5

 

[p5woody]

Maybe this? with the shorter sides just the symbols centered

 

[p5woody]

That's interesting - how would the edge look? Extend the coloring to wrap, or just have it as a line of the symbols?

maybe this

 

[CraigT78]

maybe this

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I like that - and on the short side? Just the symbols?

 

[WedgeRock]

So you like the wrapping boarder with the denom?

I like the circular band on a rectangular plaque (as opposed to the corner bands) and I like the dots and dashes aligned with the center logo rather than stretching out from it...

 

[p5woody]

I like that - and on the short side? Just the symbols?

Yea, that is what I was thinking

 

[CraigT78]

Yea, that is what I was thinking

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Could we see if we can fit two sets on the shorter side?

Also - I printed out the designs and am thinking there might not be enough contrast between the blue and purple on the 100k. On my printer it is hard to see the denom. Maybe @Gunnar can add some input on this.

Could you change it to white just for grins? It made my $20 chip really pop - might do the same here?