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Things That Are Bullsh*t (7 Viewers)

I have no problem at all tipping for good service at a restaurant or prompt food deliveries. I always tip high when I get my hair cut as well because I feel so bad that it's so cheap.

But yeah, those places that come up with a tip screen when I go pick my food up or if I go to Starbucks for my wife and a screen pops up with tips starting at 25% (!!!) for her $8 cup of coffee, those can FRO.
 
krafticus said:
I tip, and well. I don't mind. when you make $2.35/hr, tips are the only way some of these people get paid.
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The tipping culture is strange to us. Just pay the people a decent hourly wage and be done with it. Put the prices up to reflect it.

I’ve no idea how much to tip when I’m in the US. Last time I tipped, the waitress said “how generous”. No idea if I gave her too much or if she was being sarcastic :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
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LeGold said:
Point is - it should be the employers' responsibility to pay their employees.
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it's been attempted. They increase prices by ~20% to cover the additional wages, and then people won't buy their goods because they are higher priced.

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out..
 
JMC9389 said:
I have no problem at all tipping for good service at a restaurant or prompt food deliveries. I always tip high when I get my hair cut as well because I feel so bad that it's so cheap.

But yeah, those places that come up with a tip screen when I go pick my food up or if I go to Starbucks for my wife and a screen pops up with tips starting at 25% (!!!) for her $8 cup of coffee, those can FRO.
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I think that’s exactly why I get annoyed w the iPads. Not that they’re asking for a tip but the preset % are silly.
 
krafticus said:
it's been attempted. They increase prices by ~20% to cover the additional wages, and then people won't buy their goods because they are higher priced.

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out..
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Whos they? Few restaurants in my area have switched to paying living wages and are doing quite well, or at least appear to be doing well, and their staff speaks highly. Have you had places in your area try it and fail?
 
BonScot said:
The tipping culture is strange to us. Just pay the people a decent hourly wage and be done with it. Put the prices up to reflect it. I’ve no idea how much to tip when I’m in the US.

Last time I tipped the waitress said “how generous”. No idea if I gave her too much of she was being sarcastic :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
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Was that our BBQ stop outside of Portland on the way home from COTS? I think she fell in love with you after that tip! You gave her like 40% IIRC.
 
NotRealNameNoSir said:
Whos they? Few restaurants in my area have switched to paying living wages and are doing quite well, or at least appear to be doing well, and their staff speaks highly. Have you had places in your area try it?
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Not that I know of, no. I've read a few articles in which some places (mainly restaurants) increased the staff pay and stated that there was no tipping. Everything on the menu went up in price to pay the staff, and customers were complaining that it was too expensive.

I've always been a tipper, but when my wife took a second job for the summer (she's a teacher), it's all tip based. It's actually quite surprising (to me at least) how many people don't tip.... or they tip when they get the 1st beer/drink, but never again.
 
BTW, I tip 100% of the time on restaurant service for a real, dine-in experience.

What I have an issue with is places that previously never included tipping (like fast food restaurants) now asking for tips and then the automated numbers that the POS (point of sale) systems generate STARTS at 15%. For simply taking your order.

If I'm eating at a restaurant, I'm 20% standard and if it's BAD service, I may scale back to 15%. To this day I've NEVER stiffed even the crappiest waiter or waitress
 
seyff45 said:
BTW, I tip 100% of the time on restaurant service for a real, dine-in experience.

What I have an issue with is places that previously never included tipping (like fast food restaurants) now asking for tips and then the automated numbers that the POS (point of sale) systems generate STARTS at 15%. For simply taking your order.

If I'm eating at a restaurant, I'm 20% standard and if it's BAD service, I may scale back to 15%. To this day I've NEVER stiffed even the crappiest waiter or waitress
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I get what you are saying now.
 
The Buscemi gif was just for fun, that whole diner scene in Reservoir Dogs was one of the greatest scenes IMO.

I tip in the appropriate places and even in some where they should not be asking for a tip. Tip fatigue is becoming a real thing though, especially in the non-traditional areas where you are now being asked to tip basically for no reason whatsoever.
 
Mall etiquette.
It's the holidays, and (what malls are still around) are busy. Walking traffic inside the mall *usually* flows in one direction on one side, and the other direction on the other side.

C'mon people, don't hold hands 4-wide going against the walking traffic and get mad when you can't get by. Heck, even 2-wide is too much. follow the flow of the people.
 
krafticus said:
Mall etiquette.
It's the holidays, and (what malls are still around) are busy. Walking traffic inside the mall *usually* flows in one direction on one side, and the other direction on the other side.

C'mon people, don't hold hands 4-wide going against the walking traffic and get mad when you can't get by. Heck, even 2-wide is too much. follow the flow of the people.
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It’s not just malls - airports are the worst for this. Sometimes - once I make it in front of one of these hand holding groups, I walk slower and put my arms out as wide as possible. I’m over six foot so I can reach pretty good.
 
krafticus said:
Mall etiquette.
It's the holidays, and (what malls are still around) are busy. Walking traffic inside the mall *usually* flows in one direction on one side, and the other direction on the other side.

C'mon people, don't hold hands 4-wide going against the walking traffic and get mad when you can't get by. Heck, even 2-wide is too much. follow the flow of the people.
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ekricket said:
It’s not just malls - airports are the worst for this. Sometimes - once I make it in front of one of these hand holding groups, I walk slower and put my arms out as wide as possible. I’m over six foot so I can reach pretty good.
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This reminded me of a time in Las Vegas. Mrs Zombie and I were taking a "off the beaten track" had left dinner from an off strip location, and were heading back to the MGM, late at night. Walking through a desolate area, with cyclone fence on one side blocking out an abandoned lot, and an empty road on the other, the sidewalk was the only safe zone between low dirt ditches replete with broken glass. Ahead of us there was a group of 5-6 urban youths walking toward us, filling the entire sidewalk. As we got close, my eyes darted for options, but the Detroiter in me kept walking toward them, hoping for the best.

The whole group moved into a single file line so we could pass.

It turns out "street thugs" have more common courtesy than you average Vegas tourist, mall patron, or airport traveller.
 
BonScot said:
I got intimidated and just threw money at her so she’d go away
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Drag Queen Take My Money GIF by ProducerEntertainmentGroup
 
LeGold said:
Point is - it should be the employers' responsibility to pay their employees.
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In a perfect world yes. On my eclipse trip to northern Arizona and southern Utah back in October, there was at least one place that had an "increased minimum wage surcharge" on the tab. The community there had voted to increase the minimum wage and the business owners were passing that on to the patrons.

Basically, a tip without being a tip, or in these cases, the business owner passing that on directly.
 
AlbinoDragon said:
In a perfect world yes. On my eclipse trip to northern Arizona and southern Utah back in October, there was at least one place that had an "increased minimum wage surcharge" on the tab. The community there had voted to increase the minimum wage and the business owners were passing that on to the patrons.

Basically, a tip without being a tip, or in these cases, the business owner passing that on directly.
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How much is minimum wage in the US? Minimum hourly wage in the UK is £10.42 rising to £11.44 from April 2024.
 
BonScot said:
Working for $2.13 an hour I can see why people rely so heavily on tips.
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They’re not making $2.13/hr - lol, c’mon.

The avg waiter works 3 to 5 tables an hour. Say the avg bill is $100 and 15% tip on each.

Let’s say the avg billable hour in a busy restaurant is $400 x15% = $60/hr in tips.
 
Budha said:
They’re not making $2.13/hr - lol, c’mon.

The avg waiter works 3 to 5 tables an hour. Say the avg bill is $100 and 15% tip on each.

Let’s say the avg billable hour in a busy restaurant is $400 x15% = $60/hr in tips.
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That's the hourly wage not including tips. @BonScot said that's why they need the tips to survive.
 
Let’s get some education

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fa...ployer must pay a,is currently $7.25 per hour.

An employer must pay a tipped worker at least $2.13 per hour under the FLSA. An employer can take an FLSA tip credit equal to the difference between the direct wage, or the cash wage it pays directly to the tipped employee, and the federal minimum wage, which is currently $7.25 per hour. The maximum tip credit that an employer can currently claim is $5.12 per hour: ($7.25 - $2.13 direct (or cash) wage = $5.12). Only tips actually received by the employee count when determining whether the employee is a tipped employee and in applying the tip credit.

Employers claiming a tip credit must be able to show in each workweek that tipped employees receive at least the full federal minimum wage when direct (or cash) wages and the tip credit amount are combined. If an employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct (or cash) wages do not equal the minimum hourly wage of $7.25 per hour in each workweek, the employer must make up the difference.
 
Budha said:
They’re not making $2.13/hr - lol, c’mon.

The avg waiter works 3 to 5 tables an hour. Say the avg bill is $100 and 15% tip on each.

Let’s say the avg billable hour in a busy restaurant is $400 x15% = $60/hr in tips.
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Tipping isn’t really a thing in Europe. In the UK we might tip but between 5% and 10%. Sometimes there’s a 10% service charge snuck onto the bottom of the bill.

The point I’m trying to make is that if waiters in the US are only on $2.13 without tips I can understand why they chase you down the street if you don’t tip them.

To an outsider it seems a pretty strange way to pay people.
 
ekricket said:
Let’s get some education

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/15-tipped-employees-flsa#:~:text=An employer must pay a,is currently $7.25 per hour.

An employer must pay a tipped worker at least $2.13 per hour under the FLSA. An employer can take an FLSA tip credit equal to the difference between the direct wage, or the cash wage it pays directly to the tipped employee, and the federal minimum wage, which is currently $7.25 per hour. The maximum tip credit that an employer can currently claim is $5.12 per hour: ($7.25 - $2.13 direct (or cash) wage = $5.12). Only tips actually received by the employee count when determining whether the employee is a tipped employee and in applying the tip credit.

Employers claiming a tip credit must be able to show in each workweek that tipped employees receive at least the full federal minimum wage when direct (or cash) wages and the tip credit amount are combined. If an employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct (or cash) wages do not equal the minimum hourly wage of $7.25 per hour in each workweek, the employer must make up the difference.
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^^ Correct. I wasn’t sure if this was still the case or not, but knew something like this was in place when I waited tables many, many years ago - lol.
 

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