CrazyEddie
Full House
@Windwalker you owe us a story about your 18th century coins!
Windwalker on Hustler Casino Live?!?!?!?!?!? (6 Viewers)
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Chippy McChiperson
4 of a Kind
Surely one of you degens has more than 360k chips
We need to get Ronnie here for a jockey mold set
QQ nice lay down!
Super sick fold on the flop!
TheDuke
Full House
Holy. Train wreck part 2. Gamble gamble gamble.
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Saw this post earlier today. This applies to all poker players going through the process of improving their game.
SpaceMonkey420
Full House
Stop all this on his leg nonsense. @Windwalker you have no business In high level hold em games or most mid level stakes. You don’t even know it yet and that’s ok. Stop listening to anyone who tells you otherwise. You need to stop playing this poker game. It’s a nightmare for a guy with your money and skill level. You don’t know what you don’t know. Please stop this massacre, and if nothing else I said my part. Stop playing on this show, it’s way over your head, even though you prob don’t think so. Avoid at all costs. Don’t listen to the cheerleaders. They must have ulterior motives or no clue how to play professional poker. Your simply a bad amateur hold em player right now (at best) and I’m not gonna sugar coat shit to a friend. God bless you for trying but you have a lot to learn. So much you prob don’t even see it, and I pray one day soon for your sake you will. It’s beyond painful to watch, I simply can’t tune in ever again. I suggest the same for yourself, immediately if not sooner. Tell those hustlers to LOSE YOUR NUMBER.
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Legend5555
Full House
What exactly is the problem with him learning in this game if he has the money to do so and wants to? It's not like he's the only amateur to play against these guys regularly. I have friends that come to my .25/.50 game that get slaughtered every time. They still like to come and play because it's fun and they can afford it.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
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Anthony Martino
Royal Flush
RivieraDanny
Royal Flush
International TV or YouTube ? Is this televised also?My man, there 's only 4 extras. I could part with one only if it would get on international televised content, for the glory of Athens.
RivieraDanny
Royal Flush
I don’t care how much they have. You can learn poker just the same at a 1/2 as you can burning this kind of cash. The hustlers know how to stroke an ego for entertainment. My old man always said, anyones a couple bad trips to Vegas from being in trouble.
Chippy McChiperson
4 of a Kind
i think that’s overly harsh. I’ve watched most of the last couple streams, and although the punts are horrific, you can see the vast improvement in his game before the punts. he just needs to put people on ranges, not specific hands, and resist the urge to make these big moves. It’s ok to get bluffed off a pot every once in awhile if you have bottom pair or ace high, he needs to be much more patient.
Stufflymcstuff
Flush
no, he's not the only one, but if i was friends with someone losing an amount of money significant to them i'd try to talk them out of it too - which i have. tons of people lose their shirts playing poker - it doesn't mean i want my friends to be one of those people. as a grinder playing against complete strangers though? offer them a drink and hope they implode.
don't get me wrong if i was playing in these games with krish, i'm not close enough to him to care and I'd of course only be saying nice things - but as someone who has zero financial stake in krish losing and greater than zero loyalty to him based on being forum bros i'm willing to be an asshole and risk being blacklisted from his sales.
obviously it depends on how significant 100k is to him and we have no idea / no business asking, but unless it's in the hundreds of millions or more, i think his expected loss is probably a lot higher than he thinks and i wouldn't make a habit of playing in these games. you played with ivy, good experience. now if you're serious about learning, play in smaller games and find a real coach.
what are these improvements? discipline is a major problem for sure but the fundamentals are still completely broken.
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Personally I can’t take anything @SpaceMonkey420 ever says on here seriously - no offense but he sounds like he’s done a little too much acid and just likes to mess around on the forums (which is totally his business).
Krish has acknowledged in the past that trying to beat this game will be a major challenge, and not likely to happen in the short term. The first few streams were rough but then he booked a win in (I believe) three out of the next four, including a few big ones. The wins also came in additional side games, mitigating many of the previous loses. The last two streams (specifically the 2nd Ivey stream) were rough right at the very end. The mental game is coming into sharper focus - holding our composure over an entire session. But herein lies the challenge and it’s a challenge he’s accepted. Money is relative for every person, so the question is - what is the challenge before us and do we want to commit ourself to trying to meet that challenge. When I was first playing $1/2 a decade ago and was unemployed, losing a few buyins ($600-900) was pretty irresponsible at the time given my financial situation. Still, I knew it was a challenge I could meet (eventually), and like most poker players who take the time to improve and understand the game on a deeper level, I did improve and a year later was beating those same games with ease.
So far these are all pretty small sample sizes. The question is: (1) do we see improvement and (2) are we still interested in the challenge before us? If the answers to both of those things remain yes, then I think the question becomes how can we support our buddy to meet that challenge in whatever way possible. This thread has been a great source of support and a place to kind of gather to root our friend on. Just a week ago, we had crushed several sessions in a row, built a lot of momentum and there was so much excitement after having beat the first Ivey game for nearly $100k. Now, just 7 days and two streams later, there’s so much unnecessary negativity. Maybe that’s how you support your friends, but it doesn’t feel useful to me. I say this not just as someone who Is working to help Krish improve, but more broadly as a PCF community member. There are tons of ways to provide constructive criticism that lends itself to a player improving, but some of these posts have been a bit disappointing of late
Krish has acknowledged in the past that trying to beat this game will be a major challenge, and not likely to happen in the short term. The first few streams were rough but then he booked a win in (I believe) three out of the next four, including a few big ones. The wins also came in additional side games, mitigating many of the previous loses. The last two streams (specifically the 2nd Ivey stream) were rough right at the very end. The mental game is coming into sharper focus - holding our composure over an entire session. But herein lies the challenge and it’s a challenge he’s accepted. Money is relative for every person, so the question is - what is the challenge before us and do we want to commit ourself to trying to meet that challenge. When I was first playing $1/2 a decade ago and was unemployed, losing a few buyins ($600-900) was pretty irresponsible at the time given my financial situation. Still, I knew it was a challenge I could meet (eventually), and like most poker players who take the time to improve and understand the game on a deeper level, I did improve and a year later was beating those same games with ease.
So far these are all pretty small sample sizes. The question is: (1) do we see improvement and (2) are we still interested in the challenge before us? If the answers to both of those things remain yes, then I think the question becomes how can we support our buddy to meet that challenge in whatever way possible. This thread has been a great source of support and a place to kind of gather to root our friend on. Just a week ago, we had crushed several sessions in a row, built a lot of momentum and there was so much excitement after having beat the first Ivey game for nearly $100k. Now, just 7 days and two streams later, there’s so much unnecessary negativity. Maybe that’s how you support your friends, but it doesn’t feel useful to me. I say this not just as someone who Is working to help Krish improve, but more broadly as a PCF community member. There are tons of ways to provide constructive criticism that lends itself to a player improving, but some of these posts have been a bit disappointing of late
TheDuke
Full House
If he's having fun and the losses are just pocket change, why not keep playing?
I would say if he actually wants to get better he should actually hire a legit high stakes pro for a coach. Someone who actually has a track record of students who are winning players. Whatever lessons/advice he's getting now doesn't seem to be working very well. Perhaps the guidance would work at a typical PCF home game for a couple hundred buyin or a 200nl game in a casino.
Beyond poker strategy, he may need to work on discipline. It's not just a singular mistake in these blow up hands. It appears to be tilt that's getting into these spots. You can see his ranges getting wider and wider as the session progresses. To the point it looks like ATC.
A streamed high stakes game is the toughest way to learn poker? All your mistakes are public and highly scrutinized. If he's reading the coverage and discussion on various poker sites, it's not a great situation for learning. It's going to be hard to focus on the game when in the back of your mind you're thinking about critiques of all your decisions. It looks like a hell of alot of fun playing in these games - it just looks expensive for us common folk. $100k for him is probably like $100 for anyone else on PCF.
I would say if he actually wants to get better he should actually hire a legit high stakes pro for a coach. Someone who actually has a track record of students who are winning players. Whatever lessons/advice he's getting now doesn't seem to be working very well. Perhaps the guidance would work at a typical PCF home game for a couple hundred buyin or a 200nl game in a casino.
Beyond poker strategy, he may need to work on discipline. It's not just a singular mistake in these blow up hands. It appears to be tilt that's getting into these spots. You can see his ranges getting wider and wider as the session progresses. To the point it looks like ATC.
A streamed high stakes game is the toughest way to learn poker? All your mistakes are public and highly scrutinized. If he's reading the coverage and discussion on various poker sites, it's not a great situation for learning. It's going to be hard to focus on the game when in the back of your mind you're thinking about critiques of all your decisions. It looks like a hell of alot of fun playing in these games - it just looks expensive for us common folk. $100k for him is probably like $100 for anyone else on PCF.
megarises
Flush
I’m confused…you’re actively rooting against one of our forum members?Iam probably the onlyone who wants to see more train wreck vids on youtube of him. Love the way they edited the video
Yes, we have a deep and very loving relationship
You are not confused. It's the internet. There are always contrarian opinions, no matter what the community mindset seems to be.
I personally have enjoyed watching the streams...just to have a rooting interest (even though Krish and I are complete strangers) makes it more interesting.
If the money is not an issue, I hope he continues to play live streams, and I'm rooting for him.
feltschmerz
Pair
Dude's a baccarat gambler, fergawdsake. He's a degen.
Note that Ivey, too, is a pretty serious degen gambler, but he's such a good poker player that he can use that to underwrite all his forays into gambling on baccarat, craps, prop betting, etc. I don't think Mikki is in that category. I think Mikki is a guy who's always at risk of going bust.
SpaceMonkey420
Full House
Not me. I want to see players progress, improve their game, have fun, and eventually dominate. I didn’t watch the train wreck versions but I did study 2 entire streams. This is a damn blood bath and I realize most people can’t see why, including our friend who’s being stroked and skewered. Prayers sent, I can also send some poker books too if needed. I have an extensive amount of them I can loan him, free of charge, but even then… usually a naturally gifted person has to read/discuss them many many many times (10x) before anything truly clicks. That don’t happen in a week.Iam probably the onlyone who wants to see more train wreck vids on youtube of him. Love the way they edited the video
Get out of this game immediately buddy. Your lucky for a 30% win rate, and iIf I added your current win rate it I’d bet it’s much lower atm. Study hard and come back when your at 70% or higher. Some of these guys are in the 90s plus. That’s like putting a tball league against the dodgers, or having Bruce Wayne fight the Joker with no costume on.
Back to the Lab and don’t come out until you can beat a local pro like @dmoney consistently. Don’t believe me? He’s the best I’ve seen here. Play him online for now and learn. Dmoney will own most people on this board, and teach you a LOT more then you can ever learn from these tv stroker tools. That is where you need to be as this stream makes me scream STOP.
kirchhausen
Flush
I think this is very important remember. I think we are all rooting for Krish. But when you comment, please remember he is our peer, he isn’t the New York Yankees or Manchester United.
I’m sure it is tempting to post when you are disappointed In his play, because you are emotionally invested. At the end of the day, though, Krish is a real human who we interact with all of the time. I’d be willing to bet that as disappointed as we can be as fans, it is nowhere near the level of disappointment he is feeling.
SpaceMonkey420
Full House
Throw all the insults you want. I’m used it from the left as I’m in the center. I’ve never done acid or anything close to that crap (im a hard working single full time dad) but I have owned guys like your “player” on the felt for years.Personally I can’t take anything @SpaceMonkey420 ever says on here seriously - no offense but he sounds like he’s done a little too much acid and just likes to mess around on the forums (which is totally his business).
Krish has acknowledged in the past that trying to beat this game will be a major challenge, and not likely to happen in the short term. The first few streams were rough but then he booked a win in (I believe) three out of the next four, including a few big ones. The wins also came in additional side games, mitigating many of the previous loses. The last two streams (specifically the 2nd Ivey stream) were rough right at the very end. The mental game is coming into sharper focus - holding our composure over an entire session. But herein lies the challenge and it’s a challenge he’s accepted. Money is relative for every person, so the question is - what is the challenge before us and do we want to commit ourself to trying to meet that challenge. When I was first playing $1/2 a decade ago and was unemployed, losing a few buyins ($600-900) was pretty irresponsible at the time given my financial situation. Still, I knew it was a challenge I could meet (eventually), and like most poker players who take the time to improve and understand the game on a deeper level, I did improve and a year later was beating those same games with ease.
So far these are all pretty small sample sizes. The question is: (1) do we see improvement and (2) are we still interested in the challenge before us? If the answers to both of those things remain yes, then I think the question becomes how can we support our buddy to meet that challenge in whatever way possible. This thread has been a great source of support and a place to kind of gather to root our friend on. Just a week ago, we had crushed several sessions in a row, built a lot of momentum and there was so much excitement after having beat the first Ivey game for nearly $100k. Now, just 7 days and two streams later, there’s so much unnecessary negativity. Maybe that’s how you support your friends, but it doesn’t feel useful to me. I say this not just as someone who Is working to help Krish improve, but more broadly as a PCF community member. There are tons of ways to provide constructive criticism that lends itself to a player improving, but some of these posts have been a bit disappointing of late
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SpaceMonkey420
Full House
I am not disappointed in his play. Standard for new players and probably better then most newbs IMO. I’m super disappointed in his cost of learning, and all the constant cheerleaders telling him to keep going.
feltschmerz
Pair
This is advice that's actually useful to somebody in Krish's position. Krish wants to play this game. And there are people who will charge him a lot of money to teach him how to play the game at a very high level, and he seems from the way he speaks to be smart enough to soak up what they can teach him.
That's a much better path to learning to play for high stakes (for somebody who actually has the money for coaching) than trying to work up through stakes that one barely even regards as money, while trying to learn from books or websites.
Frogzilla
4 of a Kind
Hard to take any analysis seriously from someone who measures win rates in poker cash games as a % of sessions
Well said.
SpaceMonkey420
Full House
You lost me when you said the challenge for “us”. This is his challenge, your just entourage on the rail at this point. That is his name on the marquee.Personally I can’t take anything @SpaceMonkey420 ever says on here seriously - no offense but he sounds like he’s done a little too much acid and just likes to mess around on the forums (which is totally his business).
Krish has acknowledged in the past that trying to beat this game will be a major challenge, and not likely to happen in the short term. The first few streams were rough but then he booked a win in (I believe) three out of the next four, including a few big ones. The wins also came in additional side games, mitigating many of the previous loses. The last two streams (specifically the 2nd Ivey stream) were rough right at the very end. The mental game is coming into sharper focus - holding our composure over an entire session. But herein lies the challenge and it’s a challenge he’s accepted. Money is relative for every person, so the question is - what is the challenge before us and do we want to commit ourself to trying to meet that challenge. When I was first playing $1/2 a decade ago and was unemployed, losing a few buyins ($600-900) was pretty irresponsible at the time given my financial situation. Still, I knew it was a challenge I could meet (eventually), and like most poker players who take the time to improve and understand the game on a deeper level, I did improve and a year later was beating those same games with ease.
So far these are all pretty small sample sizes. The question is: (1) do we see improvement and (2) are we still interested in the challenge before us? If the answers to both of those things remain yes, then I think the question becomes how can we support our buddy to meet that challenge in whatever way possible. This thread has been a great source of support and a place to kind of gather to root our friend on. Just a week ago, we had crushed several sessions in a row, built a lot of momentum and there was so much excitement after having beat the first Ivey game for nearly $100k. Now, just 7 days and two streams later, there’s so much unnecessary negativity. Maybe that’s how you support your friends, but it doesn’t feel useful to me. I say this not just as someone who Is working to help Krish improve, but more broadly as a PCF community member. There are tons of ways to provide constructive criticism that lends itself to a player improving, but some of these posts have been a bit disappointing of late
If money is truly no object and your the fly coach have him toss you a stack and get in there. Show us how it’s done!!!
I’d tune in for that, otherwise my friday poker nights will have music on that TV. I simply can’t watch a guy I like be taken advantage of by everyone, maybe that’s an acid trippy thing I missed in life.
SpaceMonkey420
Full House
If your not winning 70% or cash games your behind the curve these days in Hold Em. Sorry not sorry.
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