Yet Another WSOP Tournament Hand (1 Viewer)

MrCatPants

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Hero starts thinking a little more about value - a strong Ax or good pocket pair is likely telegraphed from hero's activity at the table this far, so hero c-bets on the smaller side.

Context : 1k buy-in NLHE freeze out, 420/2663 runners at level 15 - everyone has been playing poker for about twelve hours at this point. Money bubble is still 20 players away. Average stack is a little over 100k. Structured with BB ante - at level 15 we are playing 3,000/5,000/5,000.

Relevant players:
CO (Hero) : 120K - has not seen a flop at this table in about 30-40 minutes of play
BTN : 280k - active player but not reckless, has won a couple of showdowns since I've been at the table and is winning more than his fair share of pots overall.
SB : 140k - wrapped up like a Star Wars sand person, all I can see is a nose under sunglasses, scarf wrap, hoodie, and headphones. The type of player where every decision takes 20+ seconds. GTO bot.
BB : 400k - one of the chip leaders in the overall tournament at this point, definitely starting to bully his position

Pot is 13,000

Folds to hero, who looks down at :ad::kc:

Hero opens to 10,000
Button calls
SB calls
BB folds

Pot is 38,000

Flop comes :ac::qd::4c:

SB checks
Hero bets 14,000
Button smooth calls
SB takes his exactly 20 seconds and folds

Pot is 62,000

Turn brings :ac::qd::4c::kh:

Action on hero.
 

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Is button using their image here? When you say smooth call, how does it compare to other hands? Do you put them on QQ or J10 after that?
 

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SB checks
Hero bets 14,000
Button smooth calls
SB takes his exactly 20 seconds and folds

Pot is 62,000

Turn brings :ac::qd::4c::kh:

Action on hero.

So by my count hero has 96K left or so, I think you need to shove here. You are literally only scared of 44 and JT now and you have four outs against each of these hands in a worst case scenario. I would have gone for more on the flop which would have made this bet closer to pot size. I don't see the value in betting small here, maybe to try and win some more from exactly AJ? But AQ and KQ are going to call a shove and drawing nearly dead. Get the money in now.
 

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Is button using their image here? When you say smooth call, how does it compare to other hands? Do you put them on QQ or J10 after that?
Pretty similar to other hands. Qq I think is a near 100% 3bet from this button on the button. Don't think he'd be floating j10 (maybe j10s, but that may be a 3 bet too....didn't have enough able time to judge that) with a nitty aggressor and then the bully stack still to act.
 

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Interesting card which protects us from AQ or A4 which were both possible hands but opens us up to J 10. I'm probably betting 25-30k here. Pretty impossible to find a fold to any raise but would feel bad calling it since opponent would see you have no room to fold.
 

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Top two pair got to keep betting. I’d make it about 30K. Shoving isn’t a bad idea either. If he has us beaten I guess so be it. Are we trying to min cash or have a chance to move up the ladder?
 

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Agreed. I think you get better results trying to win the tournament than hold on to make the money. You get to conservative and next thing you know your having to shove with some marginal hand or get blinded out.
But this is from the guy who bubbles tournaments all the time. So what do I know. LOL
 

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Hero is in the middle of most of the thinking here - thinking if button peeled with an Ax hand or a KQ (or even QJ/Q10 that now has gutter possibilities) he can get strong value, and also potentially fold out the club draw with only one card to go and crappy implied odds given my stack so thought to go a little bigger but not jam as the jam calling range is much more limited.

Context : 1k buy-in NLHE freeze out, 420/2663 runners at level 15 - everyone has been playing poker for about twelve hours at this point. Money bubble is still 20 players away. Average stack is a little over 100k. Structured with BB ante - at level 15 we are playing 3,000/5,000/5,000.

Relevant players:
CO (Hero) : 120K - has not seen a flop at this table in about 30-40 minutes of play
BTN : 280k - active player but not reckless, has won a couple of showdowns since I've been at the table and is winning more than his fair share of pots overall.
SB : 140k - wrapped up like a Star Wars sand person, all I can see is a nose under sunglasses, scarf wrap, hoodie, and headphones. The type of player where every decision takes 20+ seconds. GTO bot.
BB : 400k - one of the chip leaders in the overall tournament at this point, definitely starting to bully his position

Pot is 13,000

Folds to hero, who looks down at :ad::kc:

Hero opens to 10,000
Button calls
SB calls
BB folds

Pot is 38,000

Flop comes :ac::qd::4c:

SB checks
Hero bets 14,000
Button smooth calls
SB takes his exactly 20 seconds and folds

Pot is 62,000

Turn brings :ac::qd::4c::kh:

Hero leads for 40k
Button snap folds.

The end. Posted this hand for 1) a bubble discussion with a very strong holding in position and 2) was wondering if I went too strong/my assumptions were faulty on what he'd likely be floating that flop with. I did not find out what he had.
 

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2) was wondering if I went too strong

i personally do not think you went too strong. i would have bet a tad heavier on the flop, but i like the turn bet. if i had to try to put villain on a specific hand, it would be :qc: with an offsuit J or 10 - he could afford to see one more card cheapish.

nh.
 

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So you made the money? Or did you blow it all on the next hand?
 

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So you made the money? Or did you blow it all on the next hand?
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Hero is in the middle of most of the thinking here - thinking if button peeled with an Ax hand or a KQ (or even QJ/Q10 that now has gutter possibilities) he can get strong value, and also potentially fold out the club draw with only one card to go and crappy implied odds given my stack so thought to go a little bigger but not jam as the jam calling range is much more limited.

Context : 1k buy-in NLHE freeze out, 420/2663 runners at level 15 - everyone has been playing poker for about twelve hours at this point. Money bubble is still 20 players away. Average stack is a little over 100k. Structured with BB ante - at level 15 we are playing 3,000/5,000/5,000.

Relevant players:
CO (Hero) : 120K - has not seen a flop at this table in about 30-40 minutes of play
BTN : 280k - active player but not reckless, has won a couple of showdowns since I've been at the table and is winning more than his fair share of pots overall.
SB : 140k - wrapped up like a Star Wars sand person, all I can see is a nose under sunglasses, scarf wrap, hoodie, and headphones. The type of player where every decision takes 20+ seconds. GTO bot.
BB : 400k - one of the chip leaders in the overall tournament at this point, definitely starting to bully his position

Pot is 13,000

Folds to hero, who looks down at :ad::kc:

Hero opens to 10,000
Button calls
SB calls
BB folds

Pot is 38,000

Flop comes :ac::qd::4c:

SB checks
Hero bets 14,000
Button smooth calls
SB takes his exactly 20 seconds and folds

Pot is 62,000

Turn brings :ac::qd::4c::kh:

Hero leads for 40k
Button snap folds.

The end. Posted this hand for 1) a bubble discussion with a very strong holding in position and 2) was wondering if I went too strong/my assumptions were faulty on what he'd likely be floating that flop with. I did not find out what he had.

Hero has to bet something to try and overcharge the gutshots and possible clubs. It's tough to size this, but there just isn't much that could call a small bet that would fold to a big one, so I guess that's why I favor the shove and a larger bet on the flop.

But this was a big win and makes your situation to the bubble much more solid.
 
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