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At a local card room, where I play maybe 5-6 times a month, I bought into a 2/4 mix linit game for $50. I wasn’t even thinking when she handed me my rack, but when I got to the table, I realized she’d given me an extra barrel of $2s. I called the floor over and gave it back.
I’m a pretty honest guy, but I’m really not sure if I would have done that at a big casino. I didn’t think much about it at the time, but I suppose I figured karma and good will was worth $40?
I dunno.
 
Yes give it back. It is the honest thing to do. The chip runner is going to get punished somehow and often forced to make up the error out of their own pocket.

It is also at lease plausible that the transaction is on tape with the error obviously in your favor. It is "only" $40, but I think that is enough for someone to come and talk to you. Life is often easier, better when you take the honest route - - - exactly what Hero did.

And in my book, you are a Hero -=- DrStrange
 
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I tried to keep it on the down low, but the table saw what happened and a couple of them said “I wouldn’t do that.”
 
My Dad is around 60 and a couple years ago his bank made a mistake for around 110k. He wrote a cheque to his friend for 110 and it cleared on the other side but my dads bank showed that it didnt clear.

He never said anything and I guess is hoping they dont ask.

He ended up draining that account to near zero and banks somewhere else now.
 
Why does small card room vs. big casino make a difference?

The old saying about there never being a wrong time to do the right thing and never a right time to do the wrong thing applies in life regardless.

Pragmatically even if one could moralize not turning it in at a big casino as others have pointed out it's some poor minimum wage worker, maybe even a friend of @dennis63 who will take it up the ass regardless. You're not sticking it to some faceless corporation. They'll gladly spend more than $40 in resource time to hunt it down and punish people - a casino has the surveillance resources and state commissioned gaming officers with full arrest authority to make a big production out of getting their $40 back.
He ended up draining that account to near zero and banks somewhere else now.
I don't know how it works in Canada but here in the US if the bank catches on they will reopen the account to overdraw it. I've heard of people being prosecuted for doing similar stuff over a few thousand dollars when they refuse to make good on it. I can't see it being any easier with $110,000.
 
He didnt close the account he just withdrew almost everything in there.

If they come asking he does have the money but he is maintaining hope that they never ask...
 
It is "only" $40, but I think that is enough for someone to come and talk to you.

I guess it was about 20 years ago now, I was at the Resorts in AC playing Blackjack. The lady sitting next to me was paid $25 on a losing hand. She didn't say anything. About 10-15 mins later they came out to talk to her about it. She denied it happen. They took her to the side and security rolled out a cart with a TV and VCR (remember those! LOL).

She gave back the $25.
 
Interesting there seems to be one in this thread that is not like the other. Recurring theme with this person it appears.

And @gopherblue couldn't have said it any better. Casinos are filled with individuals like PCF'ers, and then with people you'd never let into your house. Degen or not, half the people or more in a casino are shitheads regardless of the size.

Stay a PCF'er and give back the $40 every time.
 
There is virtually no chance that stuff like this goes undetected for long in a casino or card room environment. Your personal ethics completely aside -- even if you feel okay with saying nothing rather than giving it back, it'd just be stupid to try. They will come to you, and they'll either get their money back or kick you out and bar you. Smartest choice here is being honest. Maybe they'll even say thank you with some extra comps.
 
Agreed with what's already been said. Just give it back because otherwise they are going to come asking and if you don't give it back they will just ban you.
 
Yes, you did the right thing.

I do think that plenty of people would have said nothing. I wonder how they can live with themselves.
 
Last year, I was playing a casino (in Milwaukee), I cashed big, and the cage was swamped. The worker seemed frazzled and cut me an extra hundo and slid it towards me. I always count along, and was kinda in shock at first, but promptly slid the extra hundo back. It wasn’t money I earned, and that hard working cashier would have been stuck for the mistake...

Good on you for making the right decision
 
Honesty is so underrated. That thing people call karma...yeah, that's underrated too..:p
In my experience it's always best to just do the right thing.
 
I have been given one extra $20 bill twice during cashout at my local card room. I gave them both back. As a result of this, and similar displays of integrity and good tipping, I get preferential treatment in that room.

So it’s not only the right thing to do, but is good for your reputation and relationships in the room.
 
Why does small card room vs. big casino make a difference?

The old saying about there never being a wrong time to do the right thing and never a right time to do the wrong thing applies in life regardless.

Pragmatically even if one could moralize not turning it in at a big casino as others have pointed out it's some poor minimum wage worker, maybe even a friend of @dennis63 who will take it up the ass regardless. You're not sticking it to some faceless corporation. They'll gladly spend more than $40 in resource time to hunt it down and punish people - a casino has the surveillance resources and state commissioned gaming officers with full arrest authority to make a big production out of getting their $40 back.

I don't know how it works in Canada but here in the US if the bank catches on they will reopen the account to overdraw it. I've heard of people being prosecuted for doing similar stuff over a few thousand dollars when they refuse to make good on it. I can't see it being any easier with $110,000.
I agree, casino vs small card room shouldn’t make a difference. I’m just being honest with you in that I don’t know if I would have done the same thing at Foxwoods. I hope I would have. Maybe I would have. But I really don’t know.

And my personal decisions aside, I definitely view casinos and card rooms differently. Casinos exist to extract every possible buck from their patrons, by offering “games” that they will always win. Cardrooms make their profits by facilitating games between people, where everybody has a fair and equal chance. I’m not saying that means it’s okay to rip off a casino. But I am saying that I’d have less sympathy for a casino if it got ripped off.
 
And I’m not sure this is a totally black and white issue. What hasn’t been discussed is why I walked away from that window with too many chips. Shame on me for not counting those chips at the window, but I was a little bit buzzed and I just wanted to get to the table. If it was $5 chips, I’d have noticed the error because I’m so used to playing with $5 chips, I know what they’re worth at a glance. I rarely play with $2 chips, and I was a bit buzzed and rushed, so I didn’t notice.
When I sat down at the table and took them out of the rack, I realized it. But I suppose if I was really drunk, I could have just started firing chips into the pot without ever realizing it. Would that make me a criminal?
 
tempting to keep, but giving it back is the right thing to do.
 
At a local card room......I bought into a 2/4 mix linit game for $50....... but when I got to the table, I realized she’d given me an extra barrel of $2s. I called the floor over and gave it back.
Nice move, and obv the right thing to do.

Curious as to what was the reaction of the floorperson when you explained the situation. Surprise, gratitude, disbelief, ??
 
Nice move, and obv the right thing to do.

Curious as to what was the reaction of the floorperson when you explained the situation. Surprise, gratitude, disbelief, ??
Absolutely none. Totally businesslike. He asked a few questions to make sure he got it right, thanked me, and took the chips. (And though I got a thank you out of him, he didn't act greatful, or even friendly. But he's not the most personable of guys - I've seen him joke around a bit, but mostly he's all business all the time.
 

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