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AlbinoDragon said:
I don't think I saw it asked, but was there alcohol involved? Some folks have the tendency to become a bit more aggressive or confrontational after a few drinks.

I'm not excusing "Bob's" behavior during these events, but if there was a bit too much drink involved, this might be better handled with a off-group chat with him basically stating "I love having you at my game, but your actions after a couple start to impact everyone's enjoyment."
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Nope, Bob doesn't drink. John does but didn't have anything that night.
 
As he insulting his ‘friend’ who invited/referred him, whilst not ideal, can be let slide because they know each other best imo. If it was to someone he’s not close with then yeah instant ban.

The card slamming/riffling is worse for me. Whilst tilted from the bad beat, there isn’t an excuse for rudeness. I’d go quiet if I lost money, not rude at the host
 
I'm not sure I would consider these three offenses, I would kind of lump them together as one night, one offense, and we've all had "bad nights" at some point in our lives. I look at it like a few of the others in the sense that it is a teachable moment.

I'm reading through the comments here, as well as other similar post, I get the feeling that there are many here that like to view themselves as the great Ban Hammer God of the pokerverse, and that's cool if that's how you do you, but, I feel like there's an opportunity to help him develop better table manners, which would likely help improve your homegame in the long run. He already has a longtime friend at this game (who deserves a teaching moment himself for the low-blow antagonistic comments), and, you said in the first paragraph that he's basically a good guy.

Anytime there is a new person added to a social group there is usually a "fitting in" period where people feel each other out. OUT, not up, you pervs. Everyone has their little quirks and it takes time to realize and adjust to them.

Having said that, I would definitely speak with him about the physical threats and the slamming of equipment, tell him you hope he can respect your home and your game and that he's welcome if he can.
 
KHarp1 said:
I'm not sure I would consider these three offenses, I would kind of lump them together as one night, one offense, and we've all had "bad nights" at some point in our lives. I look at it like a few of the others in the sense that it is a teachable moment.

I'm reading through the comments here, as well as other similar post, I get the feeling that there are many here that like to view themselves as the great Ban Hammer God of the pokerverse, and that's cool if that's how you do you, but, I feel like there's an opportunity to help him develop better table manners, which would likely help improve your homegame in the long run. He already has a longtime friend at this game (who deserves a teaching moment himself for the low-blow antagonistic comments), and, you said in the first paragraph that he's basically a good guy.

Anytime there is a new person added to a social group there is usually a "fitting in" period where people feel each other out. OUT, not up, you pervs. Everyone has their little quirks and it takes time to realize and adjust to them.

Having said that, I would definitely speak with him about the physical threats and the slamming of equipment, tell him you hope he can respect your home and your game and that he's welcome if he can.
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Sounds like helping him this way is better left to social service workers. He's new and likely testing the waters. Pretty sure this is just the tip of the iceberg on this sore loser. Cut him off.
 
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KHarp1 said:
I'm reading through the comments here, as well as other similar post, I get the feeling that there are many here that like to view themselves as the great Ban Hammer God of the pokerverse, and that's cool if that's how you do you, but, I feel like there's an opportunity to help him develop better table manners, which would likely help improve your homegame in the long run.
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I don't think it's Ban Hammer God stuff, more like, "this is just a f*ckin friendly social game over some beer and peanut-stakes money" perhaps mixed in with a little "I'm too old for this shit" mindset.

Seriously. If you're gonna throw out bloody nose and "let's step outside" comments over what amounts to a-nice-dinner money and some name calling, then don't come to my game.

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justsomedude said:
I don't think it's Ban Hammer God stuff, more like, "this is just a f*ckin friendly social game over some beer and peanut-stakes money" perhaps mixed in with a little "I'm too old for this shit" mindset.

Seriously. If you're gonna throw out bloody nose and "let's step outside" comments over what amounts to a-nice-dinner money and some name calling, then don't come to my game.

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I run two "round of each" games in my rotation - one smaller, one bigger that plays about 2x the smaller one. It's amazing how many more issues of this type I've had at the bigger one. (E.g. player disputes, anger/outbursts, needing to call "floor" - e.g. this thread https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/long-time-regular-loses-his-marbles.120023/) You can tell by the dynamics in the room if it's unfriendly stakes for some.
 
Physical threat is an immediate ban. Zero tolerance for that. Easy decision that you should not feel bad about at all.
 
MrCatPants said:
I run two "round of each" games in my rotation - one smaller, one bigger that plays about 2x the smaller one. It's amazing how many more issues of this type I've had at the bigger one. (E.g. player disputes, anger/outbursts, needing to call "floor" - e.g. this thread https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/long-time-regular-loses-his-marbles.120023/) You can tell by the dynamics in the room if it's unfriendly stakes for some.
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This is probably the underlying issue in most temper tantrums / disputes: people losing money they shouldn't be gambling with in the first place.
 
justsomedude said:
This is probably the underlying issue in most temper tantrums / disputes: people losing money they shouldn't be gambling with in the first place.
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I think there’s an element of embarrassment and shame that some people feel that they have to compensate for in some way when they lose. But it’s part of any game.
 
TKEUofM said:
Physical threat is an immediate ban. Zero tolerance for that. Easy decision that you should not feel bad about at all.
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Another big baby millennial heard from. You guys are soft and never would have lasted growing up in the 70’s. Take your ball and go home. Probably to Michigan….
 
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legend672 said:
Another big baby millennial heard from. You guys are soft and never would have lasted growing up in the 70’s. Take your bsll and go home. Probably to Michigan….
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I’m Gen X buddy. But it sounds like you approve of fighting in a home poker game? You sound like the clown who nobody wants to be there.
 
TKEUofM said:
I’m Gen X buddy. But it sounds like you approve of fighting in a home poker game? You sound like the clown who nobody wants to be there.
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Hey, careful what you say, you’re talking to a legend!

Besides, he doesn’t actually know what he’s saying because it’s getting a bit late!
 
I wanna pledge TKE, they’re my first choice, said nobody ever . Fighting and threatening a knuckle sangwich are 2 different things
 
TheYeti said:
I have a player, let's call him "Bob", who was referred by one of my regs, "John", about a year back. Bob's usually a nice enough guy, but he's always rubbed me the wrong way and I could tell after a few games that he had the potential to be a "hot head". He's one of those who will complain vociferously when he gets sucked out on (which happens a LOT at my game since a good portion of my players will play literally any two cards, lol).

Last Friday he was particularly steamed when he held KK, bet big all the way to the river only to get beat when 67s hit a straight. First offense; he SLAMMED his cards down on top of the pot (my CPCs!) quite violently. I immediately told him that is unacceptable and if he damages my cards or chips he's going to be paying for them. He failed to apologize or even acknowledge that I had said anything at all.

A small bit of history; Bob worked at a car dealership with John for many years, but recently Bob was fired and had to go back to work for the family business, a local flower shop.

After the slamming of the cards/chips, John jokingly said to Bob, "settle down Flower Boy!". That set Bob off! Second offense; Bob physically threatens John by saying "You better shut the f*ck up or your gonna end up with a bloody nose!" and "You wanna take this outside?!". John told Bob to cool it and maybe take a break. Bob did not take a break, but settled down enough to play and not be disruptive.

Third offense (much smaller offense, but still annoying); we play two decks/shuffle behind. I always do riffle-riffle-box-riffle-cut whether the previous hand is over by then or not. Well, the previous hand folded out very quickly one time and I wasn't quite done with my shuffle. Bob says something to the effect of "Geez, how many times you gotta shuffle those??" and gives a little chuckle. I let is slide. Next orbit, I'm shuffling again, and again the previous hand gets over very quickly, Bob looks down at the cards I'm shuffling and laughs loudly. I say, "what's so funny?", Bob says "oh, nothing" and keeps giggling as I finish the shuffle. I just roll my eyes.

After ruminating over all this for a couple days, I've decided that the first and second offenses were egregious enough to deserve a ban and I removed Bob from my invite list. AIO?
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kick Bob out lol. he would have been gone after the first slam for me.
 
In all fairness, “Bob” and John are friends. Saying he’s gonna kick his ass for a jab that hit a little too close to home - is that really a threat that anyone took seriously? Even if he got a little huffy about it….

Obviously I wasn’t there. However, I find his disrespecting your chips way more egregious- lol.

Bottom line, if he’s not fun - just cut him from the list.
 
I was taking the threat made in the context of they were long time friends...I have guys I can get flat out rude with and no one takes it seriously, that knows us. Quite the opposite, those that know us egg us on, however, if there was a newcomer in that situation they would likely be concerned for their safety, or, chastity.

As far as my comments on Ban Hammer God, all your have to do is search some of these same threads and you'll likely notice them. Then again, maybe you wouldn't.
 
Damn, a lot of you guys are more tolerant than me and my old poker crew were.

I haven’t had an issue like that in a long time, but 20+ years ago me and a few buddies hosted regular cash games and several 30+ person tournaments every year. We banned…or eliminated people from the invite list for much less.

My friends brother in law would get drunk and loud which annoyed everyone. We tolerated that for 2 tournaments until he busted out and yelled some profanity at the other player. Banned and never invited back again.

Our tournaments got very popular and the Evite would fill up in a few hours with 30 people and a waitlist of 8-10 people most times. There was a guy who was infamous for no shows at cash games and didn’t show for a tournament…when others wanted that spot. We made a 1 strike your out rule after that. About a year later he showed up an hour late after driving 45 mins to the game. We told him to go home or wait a few hours for the cash game. Also told him he was permanently off the invite list.

A regular brought his neighbor once. He got drunk in what seemed like and hour and was loud and obnoxious. I tolerated it until he started spilling beer on himself and on my carpet. When I asked him to be careful with his drink, his reply was “oh it’s just a little beer. It’s OK”. Wrong response. I told him he was done with beer at the table. He left about 10 mins later. Never invited him back.

I have zero tolerance for obnoxious behavior and disrespectful behavior.

Yelling at other players and slamming cards and chips is barely tolerated at a casino..why would you tolerate at your house? The last time I was at Borgata in Atlantic City, the floor removed the guy for doing that at the table next to me.
 
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legend672 said:
I wanna pledge TKE, they’re my first choice, said nobody ever . Fighting and threatening a knuckle sangwich are 2 different things
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Sounds like you were rejected back in the day. Sorry you weren’t offered a bid. I guess some grudges never die.
 
No doubt. Threatening players? Constant bitching? Don't need it, don't want it. Swing the ban hammer and don't look back.

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