Would love to buy a cheap yet quality and heavy custom chipset around 2,000 pieces! (1 Viewer)

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Would love to buy a cheap yet quality and heavy custom chipset around 2,000 pieces!

I have no idea where to start and what to look for when buying a custom set, I have a bunch of designs, but I want to make it worth it for sure!
Attached are two Ideas I have had and would love to know where I could get them printed at! Thanks!
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Welcome to PCF!
Firstly, you’ll find many here would recommend not needing that many chips for a game. That makes your money go further in buying a smaller set.
What kind of game and amount of players are you looking to supply? What’s your current chip budget?
 
By "heavy" do you mean slugged chips? "Cheap yet quality" doesn't exactly fit what most if us on this forum are after.

We would have to start with what you define as cheap? $.40 per chip... $.15 per chip?

Many here are going with custom cards molds now which ate made in China and come in around $.40 per chip... but they are like standard ceramic chips, somewhere in the 10g range I believe. If you are looking for 14g slugged ABS plastics (high end dice chips) there are numerous company's online willing to charge you to print out a sticker and put it on a blank chip.

Personally I would not recommend going below BR Pro ceramics which would be more in the $1 per chip range still possible for less but dependent on # of chips ordered.

I recommend filling us in on your budget and a bit of info for your game.

-# of players?
-Cash/tourney/both?
-(If both) Willing to overlap cash set into tourney or prefer to keep them separate (you will fins that most here recommend keeping the sets separate but jot always necessary for small home games where you trust your players)
- why 2,000 chips, often people think they need huge chip sets until they find the forum and realize they don't need anywhere near that many chips, learning about denoms that are trully not needed but often people think they are like $10 or $50 chips.
-define this "heavy" comment with what you are really looking for.

Welcome to the forum, hope you spend some time researching proper chip set breakdowns and starting stacks.

Fellow Chipper Ben
 
I'm a dealer and I want to create some custom chips to be able to host a 5–9-person game 1 once or twice a week, my buget is as cheap as it can get without losing much quality (Hopefully under $500).
 
Would love to buy a cheap yet quality and heavy custom chipset around 2,000 pieces!

I have no idea where to start and what to look for when buying a custom set, I have a bunch of designs, but I want to make it worth it for sure!
Attached are two Ideas I have had and would love to know where I could get them printed at! Thanks!View attachment 995055
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I only have one suggestion at this point, and that is SLOW DOWN! A lot of mistakes can be made easily at this point in your journey. You could have estimated too many chips, or too few depending on your needs. You could think a design is perfect to only fall in love with something else 2 weeks after you get them. You could buy a ton of china clays and then realize you prefer ceramics, or vice versa. A lot of people on this site have wasted TONS of money chasing what they thought was perfect just to find out later that it wasn't. You are about to make a significant capital investment in your game here. If you slow down, take your time, get samples of things you might like, and plan this out, you can get it right the first time and save yourself a lot of money.
 
From what I can tell from the first design, you want full faced printed ceramic chips.

BRPro has the best bang for for your buck—domestically speaking. About one dollar per chip.

If you’re willing to work with companies in China, Sun-Fly is top quality. They roughly run between .50 to .90 plus shipping fees

Another company in China (Tina) charges about half the price of Sun-Fly but their quality isn’t as good—but good enough for the price! There’s a post on how to work with Tina that I suggest you look up.
 
It sounds like you're looking for custom ceramic chips, though if you're just starting out you might consider getting custom labels from @Gear and putting them on either the Majestic or Royal chips from @Apache. Not a bad option for just starting out.

As others have noted depending on your stakes and what you intend to play, you probably don't need 2K chips for a one table (~10 players) game. I think you could get away with 650 very easily. There are plenty of posts here about good breakdowns for your chip/bank.
 
Thanks for all the help!

I will be more specific, I'm completely green, yet intrigued by this whole aspect of the game.

What I meant by heavy would be 13 - 16g chips (Also would be advantages between ceramic and clay?)

And as for quality whatever would look and feel professional.

And on another note, where would I be able to find a nice quality 8 deck wooden blackjack shoe?

Thanks, Jace
 
I'm a dealer and I want to create some custom chips to be able to host a 5–9-person game 1 once or twice a week, my buget is as cheap as it can get without losing much quality (Hopefully under $500).
Ceramics from China or a set from BR-Pro would be excellent ad you will have full customization options.

What stakes will be played? How many rebuys do you expect. Numbers and breakdown is the easy part, then you can go ahead with designs in a concrete way.
 
I saw Rich Evans at a grocery store in Milwaukee yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face.

I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word.

After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
 
You can do a tournament set with 400 chips or less. Heavy chips are not a thing around here unless they are oversize i.e. 43mm or larger.

Don't overspend. Stretch your budget as far as it can go with a carefully calculated chip breakdown based on your game's needs.
 
What I meant by heavy would be 13 - 16g chips (Also would be advantages between ceramic and clay?)
FWIW proper casino chips are typically in the 8-10g range (10 being pretty much standard). A full stack of chips in this range have a very pleasant heft while not being too burdensome to tote around in a case of 500 or 1000 (my case of 1000 8.5g CPC is pretty heavy though).

Ceramics = can print on full face, lots of art options
Clay = feel and the colors are part of the chips (can't be scraped off or wear away)
 
I'm a dealer
What I meant by heavy would be 13 - 16g chips
This is surprising.
Are you dealing somewhere where they have chips that heavy?
There are hundreds or thousands of guys here with years to decades of experience collecting, playing, and dealing and I’m not exaggerating when I say you rarely to never see any of them touting chips heavy (at least not in the standard 39mm size.)
 
I'm a dealer and I want to create some custom chips to be able to host a 5–9-person game 1 once or twice a week, my buget is as cheap as it can get without losing much quality (Hopefully under $500).
For up to 9 players, you could easily get by with 600 chips for a cash game, and as few as 300 for a tourney. That greatly expands your options for a set within your budget.

There are lots of great chip options for around 50¢/chip, including the Chinese cards molds and “China clays” such as Royals and Pharaohs from Apache. If you want fully custom, the cards molds are easily the best way to go. Even if you got Claysmith blanks, labels will likely cost you about 20¢/chip.
 
Why are you set on getting such heavy chips? I used to own this B&G plastics set but sold it, mainly because they were too heavy. 13-15g if I remember correctly

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Cheap, quality, and heavy chips don’t exist.

With your budget, cheap and heavy are doable, definitely not quality let alone customs within a decent amount of time.
 
Thanks for all the help!

I will be more specific, I'm completely green, yet intrigued by this whole aspect of the game.

What I meant by heavy would be 13 - 16g chips (Also would be advantages between ceramic and clay?)

And as for quality whatever would look and feel professional.

And on another note, where would I be able to find a nice quality 8 deck wooden blackjack shoe?

Thanks, Jace
You are going to have a hard time finding anyone here who will tell you that chips weighing 13 grams and up look and feel professional. They just don't.

I was like you when I joined here 2+ years ago. I wanted an inexpensive set of chips. I thought I needed a huge number of them. Was very close to buying 13g Claysmith chips. Then I found this forum and started reading, posting and asking questions. Then I got samples. Once I handled real clay and china clay chips in the 9-10g range, I immediately realized that I no longer wanted slugged heavy chips. So I got some more samples.

Like @tabletalker7 said above - it's in your best interests to slow down. Get advice and take your ideas to one of the designers we have here, unless you have graphic design experience and are proficient with Adobe Illustrator software.

For my first set I ended up buying PGI 8V china clay chips and making my own DIY custom labels. I had my own design ideas for custom chips, so I jumped into a group buy for the Chinese ceramic cards mold chips. I hired a designer to put my idea into a professional looking graphic design. I had a tournament set made on the cards mold ceramics, and while I was waiting for them to be made in China and shipped to me I used his design work to print out the DIY labels for my china clay cash set.

My chips are unique to me. They represent me and my interests, and I absolutely love them. Others might say they are too busy. That the design is too hard to figure out what it is. That doesn't matter to me and it shouldn't matter to you. Get advice, but ultimately do what makes you happy. Here are the tournament (first pic) and cash set chips (next 2 pics) that I had made up. Both of these sets came in well under 50 cents a chip.

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Inexpensive. Quality. Heavy.

Problem.

Pick two -- because chips with all three traits don't exist. See your avaliable options below.

Heavy/Quality (high-end plastic chips)
-- Abiatti (12g-14g, $1.50-$2.50)
-- Matsui (12g-14g, $1.50-$2.50)

Inexpensive/Quality (mid-range chips)
-- Chinese 'china clays' (9g-10g, 50c-60c)
-- Chinese card mold ceramics (9.5g, 35c-45c)

Inexpensive/Heavy (low-end plastic chips)
-- Chinese slugged plastics (12g-14g, 15c-25c)

There are several other chip options, but none fit into the 'heavy' or 'inexpensive' categories. As previously stated above, most U.S. casino chips are in the 9g-10g range (except for those few that use high-end plastics).

There are many high-end and mid-range options for quality chips, but they won't be heavy or cheap. And there won't be any quality chips for cheap, regardless of weight.

New chip prices in those categories will range from about 75c (ceramics, hybrids) to around $2+ (clays, with high-demand and custom-made items much higher), and nearly all will be in the 9g-10g range.


*Posted as advice for other new members, as the OP was in/out in just two days.
 
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*Posted as advice for other new members, as the OP was in/out in just two days.

Good point. I hadn't noticed that he hasn't returned since his first few posts. My bad for bringing this back up. It's only been a week, so I suppose he might still come back.

Also thanks for pointing out that high end plastics can be heavy. Over two years here and I don't think I knew that. I only have a couple examples of either of those chips and don't really pay much attention to them.
 
I saw Rich Evans at a grocery store in Milwaukee yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face.

I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word.

After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
Are we all just going to act like this didn't happen?
 
Also thanks for pointing out that high end plastics can be heavy. Over two years here and I don't think I knew that. I only have a couple examples of either of those chips and don't really pay much attention to them.
Bud Jones and B&G (both are now GPI brands) also make high-end slugged plastics (although only for gaming establishment customers).

The differences between the high-end plastic chips and the cheap Chinese stuff are better quality and more consistent base materials, tighter manufacturing tolerances, and post-production machining/polishing finishing processes. Those all add up to higher costs and resulting higher prices for the higher quality product.
 
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Are we all just going to act like this didn't happen?
If it was intended to be a joke, I didn't get it. Honestly, I assumed it was posted here by mistake and was intended for another thread, since I didn't see the relevance to OP's questions. So yeah, I just ignored it.

Edit: Also, I have no idea who Rich Evans is.
 

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