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Hi,

I'm planning to start a milling and relabel project.
My question is : when would you oïl chips ?

Before milling, before applying the laminated label or at the very end ?

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In my opinion: Mill > ultrasonic > label > oil

I concur. I mean, if the chips are filthy it's a good idea to clean them before milling just to make sure that they will sit flat (i.e. the big chunks of dirt that can grow on casino chips have thickness :wtf: :vomit: ) but otherwise this is a good order of operations. Also good to have a couple of days between the later steps to allow for drying/curing/etc.
 

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Speaking of which... just a chipper Sunday milling now that I have my frac labels and watching the playoffs.... thanks @Gear

fortunately these didn’t require ultrasonic so no need to oil!

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I concur. I mean, if the chips are filthy it's a good idea to clean them before milling just to make sure that they will sit flat (i.e. the big chunks of dirt that can grow on casino chips have thickness :wtf: :vomit: ) but otherwise this is a good order of operations. Also good to have a couple of days between the later steps to allow for drying/curing/etc.
@Gear what is your recommendation if it is not label replacement but (over) relabeling? Oil first and then overlabel? or Overlabel first and then oil?
 

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@Gear what is your recommendation if it is not label replacement but (over) relabeling? Oil first and then overlabel? or Overlabel first and then oil?
Not Gear, butI feel like unless you are super careful not to get oil on the existing inlay, then overlabel first. Otherwise maybe the oil could make it harder for the overlabel to stick? I might wipe down the the inlay area with a damp cloth (just water) first and let fully dry in order to have it be clean and free of dust/dirt that may interfere with the overlabel adhering optimally.
 

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Not Gear, butI feel like unless you are super careful not to get oil on the existing inlay, then overlabel first. Otherwise maybe the oil could make it harder for the overlabel to stick? I might wipe down the the inlay area with a damp cloth (just water) first and let fully dry in order to have it be clean and free of dust/dirt that may interfere with the overlabel adhering optimally.
thanks, my fear to oil after overlabeling is that the oil will damage the new inlay, since the inlays for overlabeling doesn't have the type of coating that the replacement inlays have...
 

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thanks, my fear to oil after overlabeling is that the oil will damage the new inlay, since the inlays for overlabeling doesn't have the type of coating that the replacement inlays have...
If you have time and want to oil first, wipe off any excess oil and make sure to let it absorb over a day or two before labeling.

I oiled some chips that were very “dry” after cleaning. They soaked the oil up pretty well. So that works. But as long as you avoid smearing the oil across the labels you can probably just as well label first.
 
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IMO it wouldn’t make sense to oil before labeling either label replacement or over labeling. You would want as much good contact between the label adhesive & clay, existing inlay, chip material without a layer of oil which could inhibit good label adhesion.

Also when oiling I always avoid the inlay/recess area of the chip anyway, only applying to the chip edges and outer ring.
 
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@Gear what is your recommendation if it is not label replacement but (over) relabeling? Oil first and then overlabel? or Overlabel first and then oil?
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...them-first-can-labelled-chips-be-oiled.54525/

TL;DR -- if you're overlabelling, it matters a lot less, because the inlay doesn't hold oil the same way the clay does. Still, there's the ring of chip material between the inlay and the mold area, so just make sure that's dry if you do it first.
 
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