When were Paulson PNY chips made? (1 Viewer)

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I searched and read that a lot of people here really like the PNY chips.
There's a set on eBay that I'm sure everyone has seen that is $15k and it's been up for years.
I have to admit the chips are gorgeous. I'm not a huge fan of the artwork on them but the chip colors and edge spots are really vibrant.

In another thread I stated I'm not a big fan of the modern Paulson chips because of how they feel to me and I like the mid/late 90's chips.
I'm going to guess the PNY chips are older because they have beautiful colors and lead makes colors more vibrant.
Is that correct? Are they older leaded chips but on a more modern mold?
 
The PNY chips were in fact made in the late 1990s. Not sure on actual year. I have a strong feeling at least the $1s are leaded just from having them in hand. Paulson took lead out of their formula in this time period as well, starting with some colors and gradually removing it from all colors. This might be why you feel the difference between the older 90s and before and the modern chips.
 
Have the link to the set on eBay?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/121956715987?hash=item1c652fcdd3:g:mtMAAOSw~oFXEFdi

I did more searching.
It's funny. The internal forum search didn't find it but a google search found some posts here from a few years ago that go in depth on the chips.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/pny-part-1-president-casino-new-yorker-history.19264/

The post above states they were in storage since 2005. That means obviously they were made before 2005.
Sad. I'm sure I'd like them but the prices are ridiculous.

(Marius: Ha! I was searching on google and found the same while you were giving me the answer.)
 
1998 wasn't it

Yep, made in '98 and sat in storage until 2005.

I'm honestly not sure whether they're leaded or not, IIRC '98 was the year they started transitioning away from using it. Based on the chip weights (and feel) in my set, I would say that the $5s are definitely not, the $1s very likely are, and the rest of the lineup is potentially leaded. The fact that the $25s and up have the metal security flakes makes it tougher to tell from a weight perspective..
 
and lead makes colors more vibrant.
I’ve been a lead truther for a few years and I’ve never considered that. I can’t even remember seeing anybody make that claim.

Leaded chips are heavier
Leaded clay sounds different
Leaded clay feels different, maybe softer?
Leaded clay chips don’t flea bite as badly as unleaded.
Leaded clay chips don’t seem to transfer colors onto one another as easily as unleaded chips do.

Those are the claims I would make. But different colors? Not that I’ve noticed.
 
I’ve been a lead truther for a few years and I’ve never considered that. I can’t even remember seeing anybody make that claim.

Leaded chips are heavier
Leaded clay sounds different
Leaded clay feels different, maybe softer?
Leaded clay chips don’t flea bite as badly as unleaded.
Leaded clay chips don’t seem to transfer colors onto one another as easily as unleaded chips do.

Those are the claims I would make. But different colors? Not that I’ve noticed.
Lead used to be in paint to make the colors more vibrant.
I assume that would be true for poker chips, too.
I haven't seen a modern Paulson that has the same "pop" as the ones they made in the 1990s.
I don't know if it's the lead or some other reason but modern chips seem dull in comparison.

Are Empress Star chips of the same vintage as the PNY?
If you tell me Empress Star chips are "modern" then... it's all in my head/I'm making stuff up but they look vivid to me.
 
The internal forum search didn't find it but a google search found some posts here
A good way to search is to google and add "site:" to the search, e.g. if you add "pokerchipforum.com" after "site:" you will only get hits from this site.
 
Lead used to be in paint to make the colors more vibrant.
I assume that would be true for poker chips, too.
I haven't seen a modern Paulson that has the same "pop" as the ones they made in the 1990s.
I don't know if it's the lead or some other reason but modern chips seem dull in comparison.

Are Empress Star chips of the same vintage as the PNY?
If you tell me Empress Star chips are "modern" then... it's all in my head/I'm making stuff up but they look vivid to me.
The empress star chips are as modern as they come. They look vivid because they were designed that way, by chippers. A bunch of guys from this site started a corporation, told GPI/Paulson that they were building cruise ships, then ordered the chips of their dreams. Or so I’ve heard.
 
Are there color sample sets known to have been made during the leaded era?
 
The empress star chips are as modern as they come. They look vivid because they were designed that way, by chippers.

A bunch of guys from this site started a corporation, told GPI/Paulson that they were building cruise ships, then ordered the chips of their dreams. Or so I’ve heard.
Sorta.

A corporation was legally established overseas to provide casino operations for cruise ships. The chips were produced by GPI intended for casino use on ships that never sailed.

Big difference from shipbuilding, lol.
 
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Lead used to be in paint to make the colors more vibrant.
I assume that would be true for poker chips, too.
I haven't seen a modern Paulson that has the same "pop" as the ones they made in the 1990s.
I don't know if it's the lead or some other reason but modern chips seem dull in comparison.

Are Empress Star chips of the same vintage as the PNY?
If you tell me Empress Star chips are "modern" then... it's all in my head/I'm making stuff up but they look vivid to me.
Your assumptions are incorrect. There is virtually no difference in the vibrancy of colors in leaded Paulson chips and those made with low or no lead. In fact, several of the most vivid colors in the lineup were introduced ~after~ lead content had been removed, and have no corresponding leaded counterparts.
 
Lead used to be in paint to make the colors more vibrant.
I assume that would be true for poker chips, too.
I haven't seen a modern Paulson that has the same "pop" as the ones they made in the 1990s.
I don't know if it's the lead or some other reason but modern chips seem dull in comparison.

Are Empress Star chips of the same vintage as the PNY?
If you tell me Empress Star chips are "modern" then... it's all in my head/I'm making stuff up but they look vivid to me.

Biggest difference between modern (such as Empress star) and the older leaded (such as at least the PNY $1), is the weight and feel imo.
 
A corporation was legally established overseas to provide casino operations for cruise ships. The chips were produced by GPI intended for casino use on ships that never sailed.
...and then there was a group buy?
 
Lead used to be in paint to make colors more vibrant, because we didn't know of a better way to do it.
Once we did some chemistry and learned some better and non-toxic ways, the lead was not necessary.
I believe powdered lead was added separately from the dye to make leaded Paulson chips. So lead was unnecessary for vibrant colors, they would have been that way anyway.
 
Hmm
That was supposed to be the facepalm emoji.
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Here you go, the triple facepalm. One for my trolling, one for your emoji skills, and one just because :)
 

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