When Do You Cutoff a Blackout Player?

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I have one very close friend who a) has never had a drop of alcohol in his life and b) is a smart and excellent poker player. after 20 years of playing poker with him, not once has he ever suggested cutting any of us off.
 

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My house. My game. My rules. If you are that drunk, I’m going to have problems with you slowing the game down that much. Home games are as much for the social aspect of hanging out with my friends as the poker

But I will let you lose every single dollar you brought with you. But I am not giving you any credit if you are that drunk. Drunk yes. Blackout drunk then no.

But I will make sure you stay the night and or get home safe. And I will make sure you catch shit from everyone next time we play.
 

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Gamble is gamble. If I want to gamble while drunk, and I have the cash in my pocket to cover it, who are you to cut me off and tell me I’m too drunk to continue. I agree with the point that nobody will cut me off when I have everyone else’s money in front of me, so I should be treated the same when I’m down. This all assumes of course that I am not a belligerent drunk and that I can sleep it off or get a ride home.

I agree but I think there's a practical limit, Dave. We've all seen drunks at the table that lose and are constantly reloading... that's one thing. But when someone so intoxicated to where they're barely conscious, it becomes a moral dilemma for the host because by allowing the individual to continue to gamble in that condition, they are in a way taking advantage of the situation.

I agree that no one is going to encourage you to leave the game when you're way ahead on the night, but I'm not sure that's a fair comparison. We're discussing the merits of allowing an inebriated player to continue to reload.

It's the type of thing where obviously it has to be handled on a case by case basis. But as host, I reserve the right to cut a player off if I deem necessary.
 

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I wouldn't enjoy playing poker with someone who was "blackout drunk" (or stoned), as the OP put it, at least not in my home games. Casino, fine. Someone else's home game, I wouldn't enjoy it but I'd deal with it if the rest of the game was fun. My home game? Forget it. I play poker for the fun of engaging others in an intellectual challenge, and if you're too plastered to stay awake between hands then I'd guide you to a nice spot on the couch where you can watch TV and either crash or sober up.

It's got nothing to do with wanting to take your money or with wanting to protect you from losing it all. It's got everything to do with being able to meaningfully participate in the evening's activity, one which requires your attention and at least some semblance of control over your faculties.

Your home games might be different. And that's fine. But this is mine.
 

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We have only really had this once. We just picked him up, put him in a chair, and he was out in minutes. Then we had to have the EMT of the group check on him, and he ended up needing to go to the ER.

He was in a bad spot in his life. Great dude tho and has figured it out.
 

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As someone who has played in this state, if you won't stop me when I'm taking $2k off the table, don't stop me when I'm losing as much.

I'm a grown ass man, if I want to sleep in a dog bed and have my winnings sprinkled over me as a blanket, that's my choice.

If I want to shove with a King high badugi, I can do that as well.
Hey I have tried to stop you when you were a long way in the profit. Does that mean I can try to stop you when you've lost heaps too lol.
 

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You quoted my post, and read way too much into it. I said this thread is one of many that makes me grateful for the group I play with. This thread talks about having people so drunk at your game that you have to decide whether to cut them off. There have been other threads where people have caught cheaters at their games. Many threads that talk about players being belligerent with other players. Many threads where people are concerned with their players damaging chips or cards etc. I don't have to deal with ANY of that in my game, and I'm thankful for that. That was my point.

We are all on this forum very different people in many ways. I play poker because I love the game and I love the social aspect of it. I don't play poker to win money. My game is a casual game among friends. I don't open it up to people I don't know, or somebody that at least can't be vouched for by one of my friends. I want a fun night in all ways. I don't want to deal with any bullsh*t. I don't care if I had a player who's going to donk off money to all of us every night. If he's a dick, I don't want him in my house, and my friends don't either. Do we drink at my games? Yeah, we do. Nobody gets blackout drunk. EVER. That's just my crowd, and that's what I like. I'm sure there are some who's games kind of revolve around drinking and get a kick out of some drunk antics and have funny stories to tell. If that works for them, great! I enjoy reading the stories, but it's just not my thing. Many of you would probably be bored AF at my game! To each his own, as I said, we're all different.

Having said all that, I will stand by my point that I think blackout drunk people should be cutoff at anyone's game. I refrained from stating the obvious analogies before, and I will now, I'm not here get in arguments with anyone, I'm just here to learn and for some entertainment :tup:
This pretty much reflects my attitude and group too, and I'm thankful for them as well.
 
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