Whatever happened to 'Faux Clay Nation'? (1 Viewer)

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Since I joined PCF, I've learned that China Clays have become one of the better low-cost alternatives for poker chips.

However, I remember a time on Big Blue (CT) when Faux Clay chips had a large following.

Without trying to search through CT and PCF for details, can someone give me a quick history lesson on what happened to faux clay chips and Faux Clay Nation?

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So it looks like there are still some members around, but when/how did China Clay overtake them? Are they still being manufactured? Neither of those two threads really address that...
 
No more faux clay being produced?

Someone give us the 5 minute history?

(I bet @BGinGA knows... he knows all)
 
I'll try. Please take with many grains of salt.

An estimated 10-15 years ago, some number of metric shit-tons of faux clay were produced. I think in one run. Like 5 or 6 figure quantities in nine different colors - red, white, blue, green, black, purple, orange, gray, and yellow.

They were reportedly manufactured in China. I am not sure anyone on the forums knows where or by whom. They are injection-molded chips with crosshatching. Each chip features a large injection dot on the inner ring of the inlay area. Some people would remove those with razor/exact-o blades.

Faux Clay chips, as they came to be known, behave remarkably like "real" compression-molded clay chips, which made them wildly popular in the early days of chiptalk.net as a cheap alternative to more expensive chips. In particular, they stack like bricks and feel/sound/shuffle/etc. much like a blank, solid, CPC-type clay chip (for a fraction of the price). They were sold on 5stardeals.com, discountcasinogear.com, and many other drop-ship website retailers.

They had some generic description like 9.5g dice casino chips, and cost between $0.045 and $0.15-ish per chip depending on the order quantity. It was not uncommon for shipping charges to exceed the cost of a playable set.

A couple members named CaptnAllIn (sp.) and OldCycles (RIP sir) were the official unofficial leaders of the faux clay movement. There was a thread, which is one of the longest in the first 9 years of the site, called "OFFICIAL MEMBERS of the FAUX CLAY NATION." The entrance requirement was to post a photo or a breakdown of your set.

Early moderators of the forum, such as (I think) Matthew and Jojobinks, had sets with custom labels and stuff. As the word of their awesomeness spread and more people bought big sets of them, some of the colors began to sell out. I think yellow was first, then orange, blue, and maybe purple. Gray followed, until a bunch were later found, then green and black. So it was down to some tens of thousands of red and white chips remaining for some time. And the rediscovered gray inventory for a while.

People tried hot-stamping them, which didn't work well for some reason, then cold-stamping them with rubber stamps and permanent white Staz On ink. Eventually, some enterprising member developed a way to dye the white chips different colors by submerging them in some sort of laundry dye. The whites then sold out and members made some sweet semi-custom sets in this manner. So it was down to red.

As the first to sell out, yellow faux achieved cult status within the nation and people with large quantities of them were greatly revered. At some point, I stopped keeping track. People with merchant accounts on 5stardeals were able to check the remaining quantities available and would post them from time to time.

As mentioned briefly above, the mold/machinery/materials used in the manufacturing of the chips was sought in attempt to motivate another run of the chips being produced. There was a strong desire to do so, and I think funding and backers and the like. However, their source was determined to be indeterminate - perhaps one of the last great mysteries of an age where things like that are increasingly recorded.

For a time, people recommended the 10g Soprano chips (featuring 3 sets of double stripes, and so named for their appearance on the TV series) and the heavier version of Super Diamond chips as cheap alternatives. Neither came close to the price/quality/excellence of the Mighty Faux Clay, but of the two I prefer the former. After faux clay were all gone, there was a time when sets/racks of them sold for upwards of $0.30 (occasionally $0.40-$0.50) per chip.

Anyway, faux clay gradually faded away into memory over time and China Clays somehow came about. Maybe as a result of members' and sponsors' efforts (Joe/PGI comes to mind) but I was away from the forums for a while at that time. Perhaps someone else can correct anything I may have butchered and pick the story up from there.

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TLDR: Not to be confused with China Clays, Faux Clay chips were cheaper and their performance was more highly regarded than any other bottom-shelf offerings (think dice chips) in the earlier days of this forum community. They had a loyal following and are no longer available except on the secondary market.
 
These were some I had lasered for a friend as payment on a bet I lost. Obv I wish I had gotten an actual design rather than just telling the laser guy to work something up, but I wasn't yet well-acquainted with custom chips (just Paulsons mostly) when I had these made.

The graphic on the reverse is a long story.

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Great Post, as this is how I remember them also.

I've been down with my COPD for a couple days, or I would have tryed to help.

Thanks for bringing back sopme Great Memories !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted these in New Post, so all can see.

I made these with Paper Labels, back in 2006. Took Majic Markers to fill in the scraped off spot.
 

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Back on the blue site I was so overwhelmed with the price and selection of clay chips that I never ended up with a playable set of anything but these. They've served me well over the years, and were hands down the best chip you could buy for the money. I don't think I paid more than 4.5c per chip from DCG except for when I bought the orange and purple chips from another FCN member. All chips are the original colors and not dyed.

I had thin vinyl labels made for these on two separate occasions but they caused a few spinners and sometimes made the chips stick together. Unfortunately I don't have any photos of the labeled chips.

I'm not sure how I ended up with such wacky counts, but they fit perfectly in 6 4-row plastic chip boxes with lids. Each row holds 26 chips and I had 3 extra chips laying around. Total of 637 chips.

Blue - 114
White - 132
Red - 130
Green - 133
Black - 70
Purple - 32
Orange - 16

By the barrel:

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Stacks of 100 plus excess on top:

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Boxed up:

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Back on the blue site I was so overwhelmed with the price and selection of clay chips that I never ended up with a playable set of anything but these. They've served me well over the years, and were hands down the best chip you could buy for the money. I don't think I paid more than 4.5c per chip from DCG except for when I bought the orange and purple chips from another FCN member. All chips are the original colors and not dyed.

I had thin vinyl labels made for these on two separate occasions but they caused a few spinners and sometimes made the chips stick together. Unfortunately I don't have any photos of the labeled chips.

I'm not sure how I ended up with such wacky counts, but they fit perfectly in 6 4-row plastic chip boxes with lids. Each row holds 26 chips and I had 3 extra chips laying around. Total of 637 chips.

Blue - 114
White - 132
Red - 130
Green - 133
Black - 70
Purple - 32
Orange - 16

By the barrel:

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Stacks of 100 plus excess on top:

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Boxed up:

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I love your wooden table. Where did you get that?
 
I love your wooden table. Where did you get that?

Thanks! It's my dining room table, my wife bought it from Target (online) about 3 years ago. The base is iron and luckily they shipped it for free.
 
These were some I had lasered for a friend as payment on a bet I lost. Obv I wish I had gotten an actual design rather than just telling the laser guy to work something up, but I wasn't yet well-acquainted with custom chips (just Paulsons mostly) when I had these made.

The graphic on the reverse is a long story.


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As others have said the closed fist is much preferred to some other possibilities he could have lasered on there :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
Forgot to mention that someone also offered laser-engraved custom inlays for a time. There are some really sweet and unique sets that came about that way.

Long shot here, but does anybody know the person who did laser engraving for these or know if anybody else still does this? I still have my set and this could be a cool option for a temporary semi-custom set.
 
Long shot here, but does anybody know the person who did laser engraving for these or know if anybody else still does this? I still have my set and this could be a cool option for a temporary semi-custom set.
h4tfan (lazerchips) at chiptalk
Unfortunately he hasn't been on there since 2014, and I didn't receive a reply to a PM/email I sent a while back. I was hoping someone knew him away from the site.

I have Jason's email address if interested. I haven't corresponded with him in several years, so unknown if it is still valid.
 

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