What makes a great poker venue? (1 Viewer)

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Let me know if this thread already exists... But I’m wondering what people think are the best poker rooms you have played in, and what specifically you liked about them. It could be casinos, or private games.

I’m not talking about the fanciest rooms, necessarily, but the most appealing and comfortable and fun to play in. Places you can’t wait to get back to.

Often, I’d prefer to play kitchen table poker if a friend runs a good game, rather than go to a casino. I’ve played in way more private/social hall games than casinos, and would almost never play in raked games if I could find more friendly home ones.

Nice chips, good felt, a custom table, comfortable seating, proper lighting, some decent food, and most of all people I want to play with (either because they’re good guys, or they’re giving away money) are some of the things I value. And of course a host or manager who handles rulings properly and fairly, and doesn’t allow people to spoil the game with angles or bad behavior.

Full disclosure: I’m asking for three main reasons. One is that if I ever travel again, I’d like to know of some good places to play along the way. Second, I’m gearing up to renovate an old barn on my land, and among other things want to use it eventually for my game—I guess that would make it a barn game, rather than a home game—and am thinking about how to do it, beyond the obvious. And third, as alluded to elsewhere, I’m finishing up a book about the design of the game of poker, and am still looking to evaluate some of my own ideas against other people’s opinions and needs. (I absolutely wouldn’t use any comments on this thread for the book without specifically asking permission.)
 
Ya, I’ve experienced some truly bizarre rulings in casinos.

But for me the more typical annoyances are stuff like...
  • Waitresses who disappear for a 30-40 minutes at a time;
  • Inadequate legroom under the table;
  • Chips which haven't been cleaned in years;
  • Certain regs who are allowed to behave abominably;
  • Dealers who have no clue about tournaments...
... The list goes on and on.
 
Ya, I’ve experienced some truly bizarre rulings in casinos.

But for me the more typical annoyances are stuff like...

  • Certain regs who are allowed to behave abominably
...and who are allowed to talk to each other in a language that is neither the language of the specific country or English
 
Good table, good chairs, good chips, good cards. Cut card mandatory.

Defined rules.

Drink carts.

Well-lit table, but not too bright. Use task lighting. Rest of room tastefully lower lighting.

Comfortable heating/AC.

TVs/music. If TV, easy to see from all seats. Ideally, a couple sofas in a seating area away from the tables for bust-outs/railbirds.

No smoking.

Bathroom facilities.

Food/drink area. Snacks. Hotdog roller. Lots of bottled water. Hand sanitizer.

Vetted players.
 
The chips, chairs and felt are nice, but its really the people. I am not good enough to make money playing, so I would rather play with people who are going to make me laugh and are fun to be around. I would say, for me, its the crowd.

This ^^^ for sure.

The conversation, jokes, and ball busting is what makes poker fun.

If you are going to renovate your barn I would encourage you to make it a smoking venue and accommodate some ventilation. Being able to smoke a cigar, drink a beer, and play poker with friends is the nuts.

A couple finer points for hosting a home game:

A good playlist. I put together a Google Play playlist specific to poker. I know the music the vast majority of the crew likes so it makes for a fun evening without complaints about the music playing. Find those tracks that more or less everyone loves and then put together a 3+ hour playlist. Mine mostly consists of 70-90s rock.

I love UFC so I always base my events around a good UFC event. There is a great event tomorrow night btw and it makes for a fun atmosphere. We are all betting on and watching the fights while we play. Of course you can do the same with NHL/NBA/MLB or whatever your friends are into.

The rest I am sure you know... have a good setup for drinks which might only be a good fridge if everyone brings their own beers.

Get comfortable chairs so people can sit for a long periods and enjoy that experience...

IMO a good home game with drinks and friends is way way better than even the best casino.
 
Topless dealers.

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I've never played in a non-English speaking country. Is English accepted at most tables?
It should be accepted the world over, in addition to each country's language. This still leaves you at a disadvantage, of course, if you don't understand both languages (English + local).
This means e.g. no French in Russia (on top of English), no Russian in France (on top of English, always), no Serbo-Croatian in Austria, no Turkish in Germany, and no Albanian in Greece. :D
 
I echo most responses, by to me the number 1 priority is comfortable chairs. I'll play on a Craigslist table, but I can't stand folding chairs.
I 'll play on a folding chair with some padding / pillow / cushion, but I 'll just won't play if not allowed to vape.
 
A good playlist. I put together a Google Play playlist specific to poker. I know the music the vast majority of the crew likes so it makes for a fun evening without complaints about the music playing. Find those tracks that more or less everyone loves and then put together a 3+ hour playlist. Mine mostly consists of 70-90s rock.

Yep. For my game (currently in my house) I have a poker playlist accessible in my laptop/phone/tablet which I stream to speakers.

Like yours, it’s heavy on classic rock, mainly because of the age of most players and because it’s both pretty universal and familiar enough not to be distracting.

The list is pretty long (about 12 hours) so on shuffle it doesn’t get too repetitive. Still it’s getting a little stale, so I have been slowly sneaking in slightly more unusual selections here and there.

I used to play in a weekly home game where the host had, to put it kindly, random music taste and played the same five CDs on an old disc changer *every* *single* *game*. Holy crap. There was no convincing him to play anything else. Fortunately he was a terrible player, one of the worst I’ve ever known, so the money was excellent.

He also did unbelievable stuff like if he busted out early (which was often) when it was snowing he’d go outside, brush snow off our cars, and then say he was taking $10 from the box for his labor... He also took out $5 per game for “electricity.” We just let it go because he was good for a couple hundred in losses almost every session.

If the game was not so soft and he wasn’t such a big donator, I could not have taken it.
 
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He also did unbelievable stuff like if he busted out early (which was often) when it was snowing he’d go outside, brush snow off our cars, and then say he was taking $10 from the box for his labor... He also took out $5 per game for “electricity.” We just let it go because he was good for a couple hundred in losses almost every session.

This is insufferable. I would never go back!

Great reason to host is you can curate your own invite list.
 
This is insufferable. I would never go back!

I still play regularly with him. He is a legendarily bad player, so people humor his antics.

One year at his own weekly game, he lost money in all 50 sessions (a couple weeks being missed for holidays or illness). He almost seemed proud of it. It really takes some doing to string together that many losing sessions; even a total fish wins sometimes.

He also is notorious for barking at other players to hurry up, etc. even though he himself often loses track of the action... it’s worth it.

A guy like that can make any game good, even if it requires putting up with some ridiculousness. At this point it’s pure (and profitable) entertainment.
 
(The very best thing which can happen early in a session with this type of player is that he sucks out on a gutshot or some other terrible draw against another player—preferably not you. Then for the next hour or so he becomes “The Bank.” It’s much easier to take chips from him than the other players, so better for him to get lucky early...)
 
I mainly appreciate any effort a host makes which shows they are thinking about their players’ “user experience,” for lack of a less technocratic term. This can manifest itself in many obvious or subtle ways, from the spread to the amount of room around the table (so people are not having to squeeze any time they get up). Anticipating how people will sit and stand and what their various needs will he goes a long way.

But a friendly game with good action and good people can usually overcome usability/comfort problems if there isn’t the time or budget to do it up.
 
Ya, I’ve experienced some truly bizarre rulings in casinos.

But for me the more typical annoyances are stuff like...
  • Waitresses who disappear for a 30-40 minutes at a time;
  • Inadequate legroom under the table;
  • Chips which haven't been cleaned in years;
  • Certain regs who are allowed to behave abominably;
  • Dealers who have no clue about tournaments...
... The list goes on and on.

Sounds like every room I have ever played in.
 
Knowledgeable dealers (few mistakes), friendly atmosphere, good food and minimal riff raff. Sadly every casino will have degenerate players who are obnoxious and terrible to be around. Unfortunately mostly at the lower stakes where I play.
 
Nice table, chairs, lighting, cards, chips. I need water, and coffee available to me on a whim. A Knowledgable dealer that's a little chatty but not too chatty. The game needs to be fishy and chatty as I dont tend to want to exhaust energy losing up nits by creating a fun environment for them 24/7. I also prefer the players to be somewhat classy, clean, and overall chatty. I wouldn't want to personally play with someone who looks like they are homeless.

PS. Did I mention the game needs to be chatty?
 

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