I definitely know what a bring-in is because I definitely play poker that use bring-ins. Definitely.It usually means the blinds are $1-$2 and it’s a $5 bring in to play.
Yes, it’s called a bring in even though it’s not a forced bet. I don’t know why it’s called that, but it is.Do you call it a bring-in when it's voluntary? In stud, a bring-in is a forced bet, right? But in this situation, the $5 bet is just the minimum to open - is that a bring-in?
You’re right if it’s a NLHE game. But as I mentioned above, 1-2-5 PLO is typically a $5 bring in rather than a mandatory straddle. Nobody is talking about a stud game.If you’re seeing it on FB I’m sure it’s a straddle. FB advertised games are always raked and straddles are a great way to to hit the 3BB minimum most apps need to drop.
plus, I’ve never seen a bring-in game advertised on social media lol. NLH, yes, but stud no
It’s not really considered a raise, but that’s right. The way I look at it, it’s basically that the amount to call/limp is different than the BB.So in the case it doesn't mean a straddle, a5 bring in means "no limping" to start? A player that wishes to come to the pot must raise to 5 or fold?
Gotcha. Haven’t played any PLO with a bring in and certainly haven’t seen 1/2/5 or 2/5/10 PLO advertised on social media. Nowadays the vast majority of poker game ads I see on FB or instagram are either NLH or OFC, oddly enough.You’re right if it’s a NLHE game. But as I mentioned above, 1-2-5 PLO is typically a $5 bring in rather than a mandatory straddle. Nobody is talking about a stud game.
It’s not really considered a raise, but that’s right. The way I look at it, it’s basically that the amount to call/limp is different than the BB.
I was always bugged by this when playing PLO in Vegas, because I wanted an actual 1-2 PLO game to learn at. Now I think it just gives the tight nit play style an added advantage to sit and fold $3 an orbit while essentially playing a 2-5 game.That’s right, although in 1-2-5 PLO games, usually the max open (pot) is 15 because the blinds together are counted as 5 for purposes of calculating pot.
I like the sounds of thatI was always bugged by this when playing PLO in Vegas, because I wanted an actual 1-2 PLO game to learn at. Now I think it just gives the tight nit play style an added advantage to sit and fold $3 an orbit while essentially playing a 2-5 game.
I was always bugged by this when playing PLO in Vegas, because I wanted an actual 1-2 PLO game to learn at. Now I think it just gives the tight nit play style an added advantage to sit and fold $3 an orbit while essentially playing a 2-5 game.
The reality is that it's a forced raise to $5 (minimum) to play a hand if you're opening the action. Initially calling/limping isn't allowed. Not calling it a raise is misleading.It’s not really considered a raise, but that’s right. The way I look at it, it’s basically that the amount to call/limp is different than the BB.
Call it whatever you want, but people in the game generally don’t consider it a raise. If you throw a $5 chip in and say “I raise to $5” the table will think you’re making a joke.The reality is that it's a forced raise to $5 (minimum) to play a hand if you're opening the action. Initially calling/limping isn't allowed. Not calling it a raise is misleading.
Call it whatever you want, but people in the game generally don’t consider it a raise. If you throw a $5 chip in and say “I raise to $5” the table will think you’re making a joke.
Also, if you just verbalize “raise” and don’t do anything else, my guess is that the floor will force you to bet at least $10. I don’t plan on testing that.
At the expense of being super naive, is there utility in playing a 1/2/5 PLO game over a regular 2/5 PLO game? I've played .10/.20/.40 and .20/.40 on apps and the .10/.20/.40 actually plays a hair bigger, but is it the same in PLO? Having a little trouble wrapping my head around forced bets that aren't blind. I've played plenty of straddle NLH games, some PLO, and a little stud, but a bring-in-that-isn't-really-a-bring-in is somewhat foreign to me lolThe reality is that it's a forced raise to $5 (minimum) to play a hand if you're opening the action. Initially calling/limping isn't allowed. Not calling it a raise is misleading.
Kinda answered my question and you even posted it a second before mineIt is a rule of the game not a raise as @Hornet said. The BB can’t see the flop for $2.
if a player did say raise they can’t put in just the $5 chip as mentioned as well. The player would have to make it at least $10.
And as also mentioned it is like getting to play in a $2/5 game that only cost $3/orbit to fold. Great for nits that like to buy in for the minimum and find a good spot to get it all-in preflop.
At the expense of being super naive, is there utility in playing a 1/2/5 PLO game over a regular 2/5 PLO game? I've played .10/.20/.40 and .20/.40 on apps and the .10/.20/.40 actually plays a hair bigger, but is it the same in PLO? Having a little trouble wrapping my head around forced bets that aren't blind. I've played plenty of straddle NLH games, some PLO, and a little stud, but a bring-in-that-isn't-really-a-bring-in is somewhat foreign to me lol
I get it, so it's more like it's always "5 to call" even if the BB is only 2. If you raise pot as the first in, it woulde be to 13, 14, or 15 depending on how the blinds are counted.
That’s how I look at it. It would be unusual for the opening bet to be $13 or $14 with a $5 bring in game. It’s almost always $15 max and sometimes $20 if the blinds are “counted” as separate bets, and it’s basically a red chip game. As @Rhodeman77 mentioned above, in a true 1-2 game the opening pot bet would be $7.I get it, so it's more like it's always "5 to call" even if the BB is only 2. If you raise pot as the first in, it woulde be to 13, 14, or 15 depending on how the blinds are counted.
WellI don’t think anyone has addressed why this structure exists.
A dealer at Wynn told me it’s a workaround to not have to pay time rake. It’s easier to get players to sit at “1-2” PLO and not pay time to sit at 2-5 or 5-5.
Last time I was at Wynn it was essentially 1-2-10 every hand with the straddle lol.
I figured initially it had to do with rake in some capacity, it just wasn't the exact capacity I thought lol. I can for sure imagine poker rooms would rather take a traditional rake than time charges, so this does make sense.FB advertised games are always raked and straddles are a great way to to hit the 3BB minimum most apps need to drop.
I don’t think anyone has addressed why this structure exists.
A dealer at Wynn told me it’s a workaround to not have to pay time rake. It’s easier to get players to sit at “1-2” PLO and not pay time to sit at 2-5 or 5-5.
Last time I was at Wynn it was essentially 1-2-10 every hand with the straddle lol.