What chips are used at the WSOP? (1 Viewer)

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Been watching re-runs of the WSOP Main Events on YouTube. Poker Mania HD have a decent back catalogue. Anyway, I don't know if it's just the recording but the chips sound is like glass. I've searched but oddly I cannot find who makes these chips. Presumably they're Paulsons?
 
I'm not an expert on this, but I've watched a lot of WSOP main events over the past decade plus, so here's my take.

There was a year (perhaps more, even before they moved it to the Rio) or two where they definitely used a Bud Jones ceramic like in the first image. I believe it was around 2006 or 2007. You can make out the "BJ" hallmark at the bottom of the "inlay" on each chip here.

The majority since, however, appear to be Paulsons and that's pretty easy to spot if you catch a closeup and notice the tophat and cane mold like in the second photo.

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I'd love to see a full history of the WSOP chips over the past 15 years or so. I know some years they went total departure and others they made subtle changes. I haven't seen a comprehensive write up on any of them, to be honest. Anyone out there have more info?
 
I'd always have around 10k ready if you can afford it. I am certain those chips will hit the market someday.
 
AdamAAAA said:
Interesting. My ISP blocked that site. View attachment 36433
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I've had the same happen both via mobile (VZW protect) and on PC (malwarebites). When I joined there a few months ago I asked one of the moderators about it and was simply told that they haven't seen the problem with their virus/malware tools. I'd hope that it is indeed a false reading, but still a bit disconcerting nonetheless.
 
I don't know why there's isn't a "bona fide" official version of these chips available to consumers (ok I know Paulson etc etc etc)... For now, the only thing close is the CPS chips - lookswise, at least.
 
The Chip Room tragic tale #972

I'll let you guys in on one of our tragic tales. We did have an agreement in place to purchase the obsolete Bud Jones WSOP from the RIO. (see attached documents) Even though every attorney read the guidelines the same, which did allow for the chips to be sold, we were turned down by the Nevada Gaming Commission. I really dislike them!!! At the time, we were also in talks with the RIO to purchase all of their Paulson chips, so they could replace them. We were going to pay them 80% of the cost to replace the chips. That would have been huge for the community! Some day I'll have to let you know of all of the deals, we thought we had....

Tell me what you think (NGC Regulations)

12.090 Promotional and tournament chips and tokens. Regulation 12, Chips and Tokens Page 6 (Rev. 08/14)
1. As used in this section, “promotional chip” means a chip- or token-like object issued by a licensee for use in promotions or tournaments at the licensee’s gaming establishment.
2. Promotional chips must be designed, manufactured, approved, and used in accordance with the provisions of this regulation applicable to chips and tokens, except as follows:
(a) Promotional chips must be of such shape and size and have such other specifications as the chairman may approve or require;
(b) Each side of each promotional chip must conspicuously bear the inscription “No Cash Value”;
(c) Promotional chips must not be used, and licensees shall not permit their use, in transactions other than the promotions or tournaments for which they are issued; and
(d) The provisions of section 12.070 of this regulation shall not apply to promotional chips. (Adopted: 6/87.)

12.070 Redemption and disposal of discontinued chips and tokens.
1. A licensee that permanently removes from use or replaces approved chips or tokens at its gaming establishment, or that ceases operating its gaming establishment whether because of closure or sale of the establishment or any other reason, must prepare a plan for redeeming discontinued chips and tokens that remain outstanding at the time of discontinuance. The licensee must submit the plan in writing to the chairman not later than 30 days before the proposed removal, replacement, sale, or closure, unless the closure or other cause for discontinuance of the chips or tokens cannot reasonably be anticipated, in which event the licensee must submit the plan as soon asreasonably practicable. The chairman may approve the plan or require reasonable modifications as a condition of approval. Upon approval of the plan, the licensee shall implement the plan as approved.
2. In addition to such other reasonable provisions as the chairman may approve or require, the plan must provide for:
(a) Redemption of outstanding, discontinued chips and tokens in accordance with this regulation for at least 120 days after the removal or replacement of the chips or tokens or for at least 120 days after operations cease, as the case may be, or for such longer or shorter period as the chairman may for good cause approve or require;
(b) Redemption of the chips and tokens at the premises of the gaming establishment or at such other location as the chairman may approve;
(c) Publication of notice of the discontinuance of the chips and tokens and of the redemption and the pertinent times and locations in at least two newspapers of general circulation in Nevada at least twice during each week of the redemption period, subject to the chairman’s approval of the form of the notice, the newspapers selected for publication, and the specific days of publication; (d) Conspicuous posting of the notice described in paragraph (c) at the gaming establishment or other redemption location; and
(e) Destruction or such other disposition of the discontinued chips and tokens as the chairman may approve or require.
 

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TheChipRoom said:
The Chip Room tragic tale #972

I'll let you guys in on one of our tragic tales. We did have an agreement in place to purchase the obsolete Bud Jones WSOP from the RIO. (see attached documents) Even though every attorney read the guidelines the same, which did allow for the chips to be sold, we were turned down by the Nevada Gaming Commission. I really dislike them!!! At the time, we were also in talks with the RIO to purchase all of their Paulson chips, so they could replace them. We were going to pay them 80% of the cost to replace the chips. That would have been huge for the community! Some day I'll have to let you know of all of the deals, we thought we had....

Tell me what you think (NGC Regulations)

12.090 Promotional and tournament chips and tokens. Regulation 12, Chips and Tokens Page 6 (Rev. 08/14)
1. As used in this section, “promotional chip” means a chip- or token-like object issued by a licensee for use in promotions or tournaments at the licensee’s gaming establishment.
2. Promotional chips must be designed, manufactured, approved, and used in accordance with the provisions of this regulation applicable to chips and tokens, except as follows:
(a) Promotional chips must be of such shape and size and have such other specifications as the chairman may approve or require;
(b) Each side of each promotional chip must conspicuously bear the inscription “No Cash Value”;
(c) Promotional chips must not be used, and licensees shall not permit their use, in transactions other than the promotions or tournaments for which they are issued; and
(d) The provisions of section 12.070 of this regulation shall not apply to promotional chips. (Adopted: 6/87.)

12.070 Redemption and disposal of discontinued chips and tokens.
1. A licensee that permanently removes from use or replaces approved chips or tokens at its gaming establishment, or that ceases operating its gaming establishment whether because of closure or sale of the establishment or any other reason, must prepare a plan for redeeming discontinued chips and tokens that remain outstanding at the time of discontinuance. The licensee must submit the plan in writing to the chairman not later than 30 days before the proposed removal, replacement, sale, or closure, unless the closure or other cause for discontinuance of the chips or tokens cannot reasonably be anticipated, in which event the licensee must submit the plan as soon asreasonably practicable. The chairman may approve the plan or require reasonable modifications as a condition of approval. Upon approval of the plan, the licensee shall implement the plan as approved.
2. In addition to such other reasonable provisions as the chairman may approve or require, the plan must provide for:
(a) Redemption of outstanding, discontinued chips and tokens in accordance with this regulation for at least 120 days after the removal or replacement of the chips or tokens or for at least 120 days after operations cease, as the case may be, or for such longer or shorter period as the chairman may for good cause approve or require;
(b) Redemption of the chips and tokens at the premises of the gaming establishment or at such other location as the chairman may approve;
(c) Publication of notice of the discontinuance of the chips and tokens and of the redemption and the pertinent times and locations in at least two newspapers of general circulation in Nevada at least twice during each week of the redemption period, subject to the chairman’s approval of the form of the notice, the newspapers selected for publication, and the specific days of publication; (d) Conspicuous posting of the notice described in paragraph (c) at the gaming establishment or other redemption location; and
(e) Destruction or such other disposition of the discontinued chips and tokens as the chairman may approve or require.
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This makes me angry and sad. Did you try offering them 100%, you can still make a profit at that rate.
 
TheChipRoom said:
The Chip Room tragic tale #972

I'll let you guys in on one of our tragic tales. We did have an agreement in place to purchase the obsolete Bud Jones WSOP from the RIO. (see attached documents) Even though every attorney read the guidelines the same, which did allow for the chips to be sold, we were turned down by the Nevada Gaming Commission. I really dislike them!!! At the time, we were also in talks with the RIO to purchase all of their Paulson chips, so they could replace them. We were going to pay them 80% of the cost to replace the chips. That would have been huge for the community! Some day I'll have to let you know of all of the deals, we thought we had....

Tell me what you think (NGC Regulations)

12.090 Promotional and tournament chips and tokens. Regulation 12, Chips and Tokens Page 6 (Rev. 08/14)
1. As used in this section, “promotional chip” means a chip- or token-like object issued by a licensee for use in promotions or tournaments at the licensee’s gaming establishment.
2. Promotional chips must be designed, manufactured, approved, and used in accordance with the provisions of this regulation applicable to chips and tokens, except as follows:
(a) Promotional chips must be of such shape and size and have such other specifications as the chairman may approve or require;
(b) Each side of each promotional chip must conspicuously bear the inscription “No Cash Value”;
(c) Promotional chips must not be used, and licensees shall not permit their use, in transactions other than the promotions or tournaments for which they are issued; and
(d) The provisions of section 12.070 of this regulation shall not apply to promotional chips. (Adopted: 6/87.)

12.070 Redemption and disposal of discontinued chips and tokens.
1. A licensee that permanently removes from use or replaces approved chips or tokens at its gaming establishment, or that ceases operating its gaming establishment whether because of closure or sale of the establishment or any other reason, must prepare a plan for redeeming discontinued chips and tokens that remain outstanding at the time of discontinuance. The licensee must submit the plan in writing to the chairman not later than 30 days before the proposed removal, replacement, sale, or closure, unless the closure or other cause for discontinuance of the chips or tokens cannot reasonably be anticipated, in which event the licensee must submit the plan as soon asreasonably practicable. The chairman may approve the plan or require reasonable modifications as a condition of approval. Upon approval of the plan, the licensee shall implement the plan as approved.
2. In addition to such other reasonable provisions as the chairman may approve or require, the plan must provide for:
(a) Redemption of outstanding, discontinued chips and tokens in accordance with this regulation for at least 120 days after the removal or replacement of the chips or tokens or for at least 120 days after operations cease, as the case may be, or for such longer or shorter period as the chairman may for good cause approve or require;
(b) Redemption of the chips and tokens at the premises of the gaming establishment or at such other location as the chairman may approve;
(c) Publication of notice of the discontinuance of the chips and tokens and of the redemption and the pertinent times and locations in at least two newspapers of general circulation in Nevada at least twice during each week of the redemption period, subject to the chairman’s approval of the form of the notice, the newspapers selected for publication, and the specific days of publication; (d) Conspicuous posting of the notice described in paragraph (c) at the gaming establishment or other redemption location; and
(e) Destruction or such other disposition of the discontinued chips and tokens as the chairman may approve or require.
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Wow that would have been so cool! Wish that deal would have happened. I just hope you can get your hands on a nice set of casino Paulsons soon :)
 
TheChipRoom said:
The Chip Room tragic tale #972

I'll let you guys in on one of our tragic tales. We did have an agreement in place to purchase the obsolete Bud Jones WSOP from the RIO. (see attached documents) Even though every attorney read the guidelines the same, which did allow for the chips to be sold, we were turned down by the Nevada Gaming Commission. I really dislike them!!! At the time, we were also in talks with the RIO to purchase all of their Paulson chips, so they could replace them. We were going to pay them 80% of the cost to replace the chips. That would have been huge for the community! Some day I'll have to let you know of all of the deals, we thought we had....

Tell me what you think (NGC Regulations)

12.090 Promotional and tournament chips and tokens. Regulation 12, Chips and Tokens Page 6 (Rev. 08/14)
1. As used in this section, “promotional chip” means a chip- or token-like object issued by a licensee for use in promotions or tournaments at the licensee’s gaming establishment.
2. Promotional chips must be designed, manufactured, approved, and used in accordance with the provisions of this regulation applicable to chips and tokens, except as follows:
(a) Promotional chips must be of such shape and size and have such other specifications as the chairman may approve or require;
(b) Each side of each promotional chip must conspicuously bear the inscription “No Cash Value”;
(c) Promotional chips must not be used, and licensees shall not permit their use, in transactions other than the promotions or tournaments for which they are issued; and
(d) The provisions of section 12.070 of this regulation shall not apply to promotional chips. (Adopted: 6/87.)

12.070 Redemption and disposal of discontinued chips and tokens.
1. A licensee that permanently removes from use or replaces approved chips or tokens at its gaming establishment, or that ceases operating its gaming establishment whether because of closure or sale of the establishment or any other reason, must prepare a plan for redeeming discontinued chips and tokens that remain outstanding at the time of discontinuance. The licensee must submit the plan in writing to the chairman not later than 30 days before the proposed removal, replacement, sale, or closure, unless the closure or other cause for discontinuance of the chips or tokens cannot reasonably be anticipated, in which event the licensee must submit the plan as soon asreasonably practicable. The chairman may approve the plan or require reasonable modifications as a condition of approval. Upon approval of the plan, the licensee shall implement the plan as approved.
2. In addition to such other reasonable provisions as the chairman may approve or require, the plan must provide for:
(a) Redemption of outstanding, discontinued chips and tokens in accordance with this regulation for at least 120 days after the removal or replacement of the chips or tokens or for at least 120 days after operations cease, as the case may be, or for such longer or shorter period as the chairman may for good cause approve or require;
(b) Redemption of the chips and tokens at the premises of the gaming establishment or at such other location as the chairman may approve;
(c) Publication of notice of the discontinuance of the chips and tokens and of the redemption and the pertinent times and locations in at least two newspapers of general circulation in Nevada at least twice during each week of the redemption period, subject to the chairman’s approval of the form of the notice, the newspapers selected for publication, and the specific days of publication; (d) Conspicuous posting of the notice described in paragraph (c) at the gaming establishment or other redemption location; and
(e) Destruction or such other disposition of the discontinued chips and tokens as the chairman may approve or require.
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My day was already shit but now I'm really depressed.
 
Look at this inventory and the potential breakdowns!!! WOWWWW!

Denomination Quantity
5 1399
25 9881
100 9972
500 9974
1,000 9998
5,000 1490
10,000 992
25,000 800

Figure on 200/200/150/100/50 sets...that's like 45 large playable sets, plus the T5 and T10/25K big denom chips. WOW WOW WOW.
 
TheChipRoom said:
The Chip Room tragic tale #972

I'll let you guys in on one of our tragic tales. We did have an agreement in place to purchase the obsolete Bud Jones WSOP from the RIO. (see attached documents) Even though every attorney read the guidelines the same, which did allow for the chips to be sold, we were turned down by the Nevada Gaming Commission. I really dislike them!!! At the time, we were also in talks with the RIO to purchase all of their Paulson chips, so they could replace them. We were going to pay them 80% of the cost to replace the chips. That would have been huge for the community! Some day I'll have to let you know of all of the deals, we thought we had....

Tell me what you think (NGC Regulations)

12.090 Promotional and tournament chips and tokens. Regulation 12, Chips and Tokens Page 6 (Rev. 08/14)
1. As used in this section, “promotional chip” means a chip- or token-like object issued by a licensee for use in promotions or tournaments at the licensee’s gaming establishment.
2. Promotional chips must be designed, manufactured, approved, and used in accordance with the provisions of this regulation applicable to chips and tokens, except as follows:
(a) Promotional chips must be of such shape and size and have such other specifications as the chairman may approve or require;
(b) Each side of each promotional chip must conspicuously bear the inscription “No Cash Value”;
(c) Promotional chips must not be used, and licensees shall not permit their use, in transactions other than the promotions or tournaments for which they are issued; and
(d) The provisions of section 12.070 of this regulation shall not apply to promotional chips. (Adopted: 6/87.)

12.070 Redemption and disposal of discontinued chips and tokens.
1. A licensee that permanently removes from use or replaces approved chips or tokens at its gaming establishment, or that ceases operating its gaming establishment whether because of closure or sale of the establishment or any other reason, must prepare a plan for redeeming discontinued chips and tokens that remain outstanding at the time of discontinuance. The licensee must submit the plan in writing to the chairman not later than 30 days before the proposed removal, replacement, sale, or closure, unless the closure or other cause for discontinuance of the chips or tokens cannot reasonably be anticipated, in which event the licensee must submit the plan as soon asreasonably practicable. The chairman may approve the plan or require reasonable modifications as a condition of approval. Upon approval of the plan, the licensee shall implement the plan as approved.
2. In addition to such other reasonable provisions as the chairman may approve or require, the plan must provide for:
(a) Redemption of outstanding, discontinued chips and tokens in accordance with this regulation for at least 120 days after the removal or replacement of the chips or tokens or for at least 120 days after operations cease, as the case may be, or for such longer or shorter period as the chairman may for good cause approve or require;
(b) Redemption of the chips and tokens at the premises of the gaming establishment or at such other location as the chairman may approve;
(c) Publication of notice of the discontinuance of the chips and tokens and of the redemption and the pertinent times and locations in at least two newspapers of general circulation in Nevada at least twice during each week of the redemption period, subject to the chairman’s approval of the form of the notice, the newspapers selected for publication, and the specific days of publication; (d) Conspicuous posting of the notice described in paragraph (c) at the gaming establishment or other redemption location; and
(e) Destruction or such other disposition of the discontinued chips and tokens as the chairman may approve or require.
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Hours later I'm still on life tilt at this. Look at those fucking chips. I would have collected every one of those blue 5s and 4 racks of quarters and had the best limit set of all time and perfect for my game.

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Also, lol Bob Jones.
 
Wow! The fact that the momentum was this strong and the NGC put the kibosh on this is infuriating. My jaw dropped that you made such progress with legal. FU Commish.
 
No appeals to NGC rulings? Court order options? When dealing with swinging dicks, always go down swinging..... uh, wait...
 

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