"WARNING" Cleaning Horseshoe Mold Chips (1 Viewer)
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brains613
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"come apart". You mean the chip itself broke up?
Shaggy
Full House
Oh Nooo. I happen to know this already Russ. I have been intending to clean a rack of horseshoe $5s. I knew the oxi will eat them, but was not aware of the Dawn. The chips are ASM. I have 200 Kenmore lanes ASM chips that I am intending to do some cleaning testing on. The goal is to find an ultrasonic cleaning process that is safe on ASM chips. Concerned about your findings with Dawn. Was it regular Dawn... or with an additive?
Sorry for your loss...
Sorry for your loss...
Yes, the chip became soft and the part I was holding while going to clean with a toothbrush broke off.
I didn't even put much pressure on it.
Whew. I can't see Dawn hurting anything, but Oxi is bad for those, alright.
TSP will annihilate ASM/CPC chips, too. Ask me how I know this.
TSP will annihilate ASM/CPC chips, too. Ask me how I know this.
Meddler2
Full House
Weird. I must have been lucky because I've cleaned hundreds of ASM and Paulson chips using oxiclean (but not mixed with dawn i don't think)...fully submerged for a few minutes, scrubbed, and rinsed. Never had any damage to the chip or inlay.
I will be very careful next time....if there ever is a next time.
I will be very careful next time....if there ever is a next time.
Well... I don't think Oxi hurts ASM chips (but DO NOT QUOTE ME - do your own research.) I know Oxi doesn't hurt Paulson chips, at least in terms of melting them.
TSP hurts ASM chips, but TSP is not Oxi, and Horseshoe molds are not ASM.
TSP hurts ASM chips, but TSP is not Oxi, and Horseshoe molds are not ASM.
Meddler2
Full House
Right, but OP was using Oxi correct?
Shaggy
Full House
What are Horseshoe molds then? Did I just assume they were ASM because they were not Paulson?
The Horseshoe chips were made by Burt Co., way before ASM existed. When Burt closed/became ASM, c1991/2 the mold was returned to its owner, TK Speciality. Shortly after, Paulson acquired TK and the mold. I'm not aware they ever used it or whether it even exists anymore.
TCS Huxley had a prototype ultrasonic cleaning machine at an expo about 8 years ago. Pretty cool thing although it took 10 minutes to clean a rack. I don't think it ever took off. The $30k price tag plus a monthly maintenance contract of $3k was a killer.
Which is quite a lot when compared to the tried and true Taj Mahal method of not cleaning a single chip for 25 years.
Huxley obviously thought there was a market
I pulled a nice little stunt on them. Asked if I could bring in a rack of my own filthy chips the next day to test it. They had some really cool samples in use in it and the guy welcomed something dirty.
The first part of the cycle would 'eject' the chips that were in there and feed in the new lot. They left me alone with it. I tipped my 100 in, collected their 100 and left lol
Oh! I stand corrected. Thanks David.
Huxley obviously thought there was a market
I pulled a nice little stunt on them. Asked if I could bring in a rack of my own filthy chips the next day to test it. They had some really cool samples in use in it and the guy welcomed something dirty.
The first part of the cycle would 'eject' the chips that were in there and feed in the new lot. They left me alone with it. I tipped my 100 in, collected their 100 and left lol
Nice play!
Shaggy
Full House
Thanks for the response David. So we must assume the recipe used by Burt Co is potentially different than that used by ASM. I have approximately 200 A-mold Kenmore Lanes chips that are filthy that I was going to test with before attempting to clean the Binion Horseshoe fives... but if the material is different, it may be all for naught.
Ski_ex has had great results that have been replicated cleaning Paulson chips with a small (home use) ultrasonic cleaner. Here's that thread:
http://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/ultrasonic-chip-cleaning.1691/
and a video tutorial:
http://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/ultrasonic-cleaning-method-video-tutorial.4546/
There would have been a fair bit of lead in the Burt Co chips, that could be the issue.
A number of the ingredients are likely to be different because they probably contained things regarded as hazardous now.
Even 'today', one of the issues we have in trying to keep colors the same is that ingredients keep changing a fraction as manufacturers make them supposedly 'safer'. They never tell us something has changed though - still the same part number/codes as 50 years ago.
Shaggy
Full House
Well... I decided to be real conservative. I used Dawn Ultra and an electric toothbrush to clean the 60 some odd Horseshoe fives. Using an Xacto to scrape the gunk out of the horseshoes while I watch the WSOP final table. Tedious but worth it.
pokerpig
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Poor dumb Bastard!!This guy is using Bleach! He thinks they are clay.Luckily he doesn't know anything about chips.
This video cracks me up!
Hahaha...so true. I played there a few times back in 05-06 when we wanted a break from the Borg (because we were stupid? I have no idea why), and pretty much the only two things I remember are:
- the dirtiest chips I've ever seen in my life...seriously disgusting
- really depressing guys every few hours who would buy in for the minimum and lose it five hands later. They'd have this resigned look on their face like they did the same thing every weekend and now they couldn't eat for 2 days.
Fucking taj, man. No thanks. I guess we got bored of good food, and having everything be clean and nice? Speaking of, I'm headed back to the Borg in a few weeks for the first time in years. Very excited...
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