This isn't meant to bash CPC or anything like that. I'm just curious if anyone else has experienced this or if this is the norm for CPC.. I've done quite a bit of research and it seems that a ton of people classify CPC as the best poker chips that are currently being sold to the general public out of production, so I was really excited to receive my samples of the Rounders stock chips. I'm pretty underwhelmed. While the chips feel great, there just seem to be quite a bit of inconsistency between the chips (crooked inlays, don't sit flush on top of eachother, etc). Have you guys had/heard any similar experiences or is this just what to expect from CPC? I know this may seem a bit nitpicky, but if I'm paying for more than $2/chip, I would just expect a little bit better quality.
Underwhelmed with CPC Samples (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter ab_hogs
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Inlays can be off center sometimes. Getting them direct center on all chips is not realistic imo.
As for the warping - I'm betting this is due to the journey in the mail with the summer heat.
As for the warping - I'm betting this is due to the journey in the mail with the summer heat.
To the fans of CPC (Which, I am one), you are looking at this the wrong way. It's a niche hand made item, not a factory like Paulson.
Personality is going to be in the chips. It's just going to happen. I've heard that the samples can be the iffy ones on runs, but I don't know that 100%.
The quality as a chip is normally pretty good. They hold up hundreds of games, they have good weight and options, and honestly, it's the literal only true clay option we have.
When you deep dive into Paulson's, you'll see the exact same errors and issues, just on a grander scale. It's kinda the rub when you are doing custom clay chips, and clay chips are most likely on the way out in Casinos.
Some people arnt fans of CPC, but in my opinion, it's the best cheapest option for custom clay chips we got.
Yeah the inlays aren't even centered on paulsons
It's possible they used chips that were rejected to form that sample. I can tell you that none of the problems you listed above appeared in the 1200 chips I recieved from them on an actual order.
VivasTable
Two Pair
Seem's odd they would send rejected chips as samples. Wouldnt you want samples to be the best quality possible?
LeLe
4 of a Kind
I hoped that’s not the case
The purpose of getting samples is to get them as close as possible to the actual and it kinda of a scumbag move to sell the rejects off as sample
@ab_hogs I will email CPC attached with these sample pictures and see what their explanation are if I was in your shoes, these are clearly not normal by any standards
I have four CPC sets. No issues at all with warping. There are some chips that have off center inlays, but when submitting a custom order, the CPC factory sends a few extras to account for manufacturing defects that may occur.
As has been mentioned, I would bet quite a bit that the OP's chips warped from the journey to the OP. CPC'S in general can be prone to warping in heat.
As has been mentioned, I would bet quite a bit that the OP's chips warped from the journey to the OP. CPC'S in general can be prone to warping in heat.
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Very well could be the case, and as for the centering, I'd have no problem with a few outliers in a set. Just a little concerning that one out of my five was way off.
These look great and are more in line with other pics I've seen.
I ordered them directly from their site. They were packed pretty well too - each chip was in it's own plastic sleeve, in a bubble wrap lined package, so I can't imagine the heat would've gotten to them in transit like some are suggesting. Not ruling it out though.
Yeah, that warping is certainly not something you should expect getting a set. Most likely due to hot transport conditions. I’ve had a set of hot stamped ASMs (pre-CPC) arrive completely warped. They told me the chips 100% were not shipped in that condition. Still got a full replacement after I sent back a number of them.
The other ”issues” are, as others have pointed out, the imperfect results of a hand made product. To me that is part of the attraction with CPCs.
The other ”issues” are, as others have pointed out, the imperfect results of a hand made product. To me that is part of the attraction with CPCs.
I agree with the others, that is not a typical condition in my experience. I think you should reach out to them and I bet they will make it right.
mnebesny
Flush
Something to note too, is that when you order customs, they come with a healthy number of extras (like a dozen or so of each denom, I think) to cover any quality control issues
MeridianFC
Flush
I have 1500 or so chips ordered from both CPC and ASM (the company technically prior to CPC) over the course of more than a decade. Nearly all of my inlays are centered. Like maybe 5 aren't and even those aren't that bad. No warping whatsoever (like others I'm assuming your is due to excessive heat during shipping).
The only thing I might ding CPC/ASM on is the ever so slight variation in thickness. Barrels won't always fit in a rack (depending on rack). These are old school chips so I've made my peace with that.
The only thing I might ding CPC/ASM on is the ever so slight variation in thickness. Barrels won't always fit in a rack (depending on rack). These are old school chips so I've made my peace with that.
I thought CPC regularly used factory seconds (error chips) in their samples to us (the public). I'm sure their commercial samples are cream of the crop.
I have three separate sets from CPC and each is fantastic.
As was already mentioned, the process in which they are made is a lot more manual than paulson chips; so yes, there will be some level of QA/QC variance from one chip to another. This variance is small to insignificant imho.
As a testimonial, I just hosted a 3-table tourney using one of my CPC sets this passed weekend. I won’t deny that If one scrutinized those chips thoroughly, he/she would find some flaws; however, at the game all I received was compliments on them and how they were so much better than the chips they were used to. Whatever flaws there are, they either didn't notice or didn't care to point them out.
I’d guess that If you ended up with a set of Rounders or other CPC offerings, you’d likely have similar reactions from your own game patrons.
As was already mentioned, the process in which they are made is a lot more manual than paulson chips; so yes, there will be some level of QA/QC variance from one chip to another. This variance is small to insignificant imho.
As a testimonial, I just hosted a 3-table tourney using one of my CPC sets this passed weekend. I won’t deny that If one scrutinized those chips thoroughly, he/she would find some flaws; however, at the game all I received was compliments on them and how they were so much better than the chips they were used to. Whatever flaws there are, they either didn't notice or didn't care to point them out.
I’d guess that If you ended up with a set of Rounders or other CPC offerings, you’d likely have similar reactions from your own game patrons.
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ktran
Flush
I had a mixed set of CPC, Paulsons, and China Clay at one point. With some play time CPC and China Clay just didn't cut if for me. The feel, sound, texture, and handle of Paulsons were better in my opinion. It's your taste so get samples and some play time with them. With the minor imperfections, that's just the nature of compression chips whether it's CPC or Paulsons.
If you want closer to perfect construction, I'd look into high quality plastic chips. Maybe ceramics.
Johnblue
Flush
those chips are not representative of chips you would receive if you bought some custom racks. those must have melted in the mail.
CPC is the only place you can buy custom compression clay chips, and they do a good job of it.
from my understanding, if you are picky and want ultimate consistency, buy 10% more than what you need of each denomination, and cherry pick out any outliers. (off-inlays, spots etc)
but warping like that is not normal, something happened to those chips haha.
CPC is the only place you can buy custom compression clay chips, and they do a good job of it.
from my understanding, if you are picky and want ultimate consistency, buy 10% more than what you need of each denomination, and cherry pick out any outliers. (off-inlays, spots etc)
but warping like that is not normal, something happened to those chips haha.
If you are considering getting a CPC set the samples you want are the color and mold samples. It will cost you a bit but no other way to be really confident in your selections.
The chips pictures here have been through something horrid. Not representative of CPC quality.
The chips pictures here have been through something horrid. Not representative of CPC quality.
Rhodeman77
Straight Flush
I think it has been said by David from CPC that sample chips are often rejects from runs of stock chips. IMO this is not a good business practice for this exact reason, people that receive lesser quality chips will think that they represent how the chips they buy in a set will arrive.
Thankfully OP is asking the question here and we are able to let him know that is not the case.
I have ordered 3 CPC sets and multiple add-ons and the quality of the chips is great. There are usually spares included to cover the few bad chips that may end up being sent.
Thankfully OP is asking the question here and we are able to let him know that is not the case.
I have ordered 3 CPC sets and multiple add-ons and the quality of the chips is great. There are usually spares included to cover the few bad chips that may end up being sent.
VivasTable
Two Pair
In commercial printing we "sell samples" as those 20 PERFECT samples get sent directly to the buyer/art director/ad agency/Boss. The other 2,000,000 pieces that hit your mailbox, well they arent all perfect lol.
It's great that you got samples - it's the first piece of advice that anyone coming here gets.
It's sad that the samples you got are not representative of our experience of CPC. I have 2 CPC sets at home, one going to production soon and I'm working on my 4th. I certainly wouldn't be quite so enthusiastic about them if any of my chips were warped like that. I do suspect that yours suffered from being in a hot mail truck or mailbox - something that I have to be very wary of with chip deliveries in Texas summers.
It's sad that the samples you got are not representative of our experience of CPC. I have 2 CPC sets at home, one going to production soon and I'm working on my 4th. I certainly wouldn't be quite so enthusiastic about them if any of my chips were warped like that. I do suspect that yours suffered from being in a hot mail truck or mailbox - something that I have to be very wary of with chip deliveries in Texas summers.
That is a huge double edged sword. Samples set the standard. But if you get mint perfect in every way samples and then get a set and dislike the natural movement of an inlay (Cactus Pete's had this issue, but I was aware. Shaped inlays with edge designs can be off kilter and show white edges), you now have a unhappy customer and a multiple thousand dollar issue. Enough of those and you don't got a business anymore.
Samples should be a realistic example of the items you receive. If it has personality and the items are hand made, it's wise to reflect that. Gotta ride the line of honest, but good enough it's what a customer would want. In my opinion.
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citationjeff
Pair
So, in this case, this issue is heat damage. I ordered this exact sample set just 6 weeks ago and they showed up like this in central Florida. I reached out to David at CPC and he confirmed heat damage and sent me a new set which I made sure to pull out of the mail box immediately and those were perfectly flat and round.
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That's horrid. Wow.
tabletalker7
Full House
Your complaints are warping and off center labels with a price point you think is high .......... Is it possible that you might just be one of the rare people (like me) that actually would prefer a good ceramic? Hop over to www.brpropoker.com and get you a sample set or two there. With the way ceramics are made the print is much easier to center, the chips are much less likely to warp due to heat, and the price point is a lot friendlier. Check them out.
KarateMaster72
Flush
That hurts to look at. On a positive note, I got my rounders sample today that I ordered like three or four days ago and they are perfect
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