AnteAndy
3 of a Kind
I wanted people’s advice on how to restructure my poker league for next year. We launched ours for the first time back in February. Please keep in mind these guys are mostly recreational to somewhat serious players, not minding anything as long as it’s not spending a ton of money and just want to play poker.
- Tournaments will all be NLHE, BB Ante structure, $10 buyin for each tournament, along with a $2 additional to put towards the prize pool for the year’s end Main Event tournament. One $10 rebuy per player within the first three blind levels.
- Anyone can join and play through the season. Originally had people put an upfront fee at the beginning to commit to the league if they wanted, but some people couldn’t join in on time and only had to come for cash games, so thought the $2 additional would help, all just to help get the Main Event prize pool a good size.
-Starting stacks either T10K, T12K, or T15K, since we’ll be using denominations T100, T500, T1000, & T5000.
-Points will be given to players for each tournament. Originally, I had it to where you receive 1 pt for last place, 2nd-to-last 2 pts, etc progressing upward for each placement, and where the bubble gets 1 additional pt, and in-the-money places get bonus pts: 3rd = +2; 2nd= +4; 1st = +6. Also rebuying will have 1 pt deducted to your overal points for that tournament.
This time, I want to incorporate Dr. Neau’s point system. I know it’s not the absolute best as some people here say, but like I said, my players are mostly okay with anything as long as it appears fair enough at face-value.
-Best of 8/10 tournaments to accumulate points, to where the Top 8 in ranking before the Main Event can qualify for it. Top 5 will receive freeroll entry, as well as additional chips based on points, either being:
A.) 1 pt = 100 chips added (Only based on Neau point system).
B.) 1st - 10,000; 2nd - 8,000; 3rd - 6,000; 4th - 4,000; 5th - 2,000
-Top 3 finishers will earn the Main Event Pool of the accumulated $2 fees.
Now I passed this onto a local PCF’er on his thoughts about it, and he said that he wasn’t found of the $2 additional for every $10 buy in, since the “rake” is %20 of the buy in. However, I’ve lurked the site for a long while before becoming a member, and saw some people take out $10 to a $50-60 total buyin, and also that we’re doing much smaller buyins than the usual tournament buyin to make it easier for some who are not fond of paying much to play tournaments, and it’s a more social group.
Also that if people come in later in the season to play and might screw over people and make things unfair for those who join in the beginning, however with the previous season doing an up-front fee (since many who joined never played in a league, and are more familiar with playing in Fantasy Football) would help keep people committed to playing and help make the years-end Main Event pool larger than our usual tournaments and make it more exciting. And he also stated with the whole fee/”rake” situation it would make people think they no longer have a reasonable chance to make it into the Main Event, even though with our current point system (Not Neau’s currently) we’ve had people near the bottom in the beginning and not made it to currently qualifying inside the top 6.
I’m just curious on everyone’s take on this league structure and if you believe the whole fee/”rake” situation is can be reworked to have the best of both worlds.
- Tournaments will all be NLHE, BB Ante structure, $10 buyin for each tournament, along with a $2 additional to put towards the prize pool for the year’s end Main Event tournament. One $10 rebuy per player within the first three blind levels.
- Anyone can join and play through the season. Originally had people put an upfront fee at the beginning to commit to the league if they wanted, but some people couldn’t join in on time and only had to come for cash games, so thought the $2 additional would help, all just to help get the Main Event prize pool a good size.
-Starting stacks either T10K, T12K, or T15K, since we’ll be using denominations T100, T500, T1000, & T5000.
-Points will be given to players for each tournament. Originally, I had it to where you receive 1 pt for last place, 2nd-to-last 2 pts, etc progressing upward for each placement, and where the bubble gets 1 additional pt, and in-the-money places get bonus pts: 3rd = +2; 2nd= +4; 1st = +6. Also rebuying will have 1 pt deducted to your overal points for that tournament.
This time, I want to incorporate Dr. Neau’s point system. I know it’s not the absolute best as some people here say, but like I said, my players are mostly okay with anything as long as it appears fair enough at face-value.
-Best of 8/10 tournaments to accumulate points, to where the Top 8 in ranking before the Main Event can qualify for it. Top 5 will receive freeroll entry, as well as additional chips based on points, either being:
A.) 1 pt = 100 chips added (Only based on Neau point system).
B.) 1st - 10,000; 2nd - 8,000; 3rd - 6,000; 4th - 4,000; 5th - 2,000
-Top 3 finishers will earn the Main Event Pool of the accumulated $2 fees.
Now I passed this onto a local PCF’er on his thoughts about it, and he said that he wasn’t found of the $2 additional for every $10 buy in, since the “rake” is %20 of the buy in. However, I’ve lurked the site for a long while before becoming a member, and saw some people take out $10 to a $50-60 total buyin, and also that we’re doing much smaller buyins than the usual tournament buyin to make it easier for some who are not fond of paying much to play tournaments, and it’s a more social group.
Also that if people come in later in the season to play and might screw over people and make things unfair for those who join in the beginning, however with the previous season doing an up-front fee (since many who joined never played in a league, and are more familiar with playing in Fantasy Football) would help keep people committed to playing and help make the years-end Main Event pool larger than our usual tournaments and make it more exciting. And he also stated with the whole fee/”rake” situation it would make people think they no longer have a reasonable chance to make it into the Main Event, even though with our current point system (Not Neau’s currently) we’ve had people near the bottom in the beginning and not made it to currently qualifying inside the top 6.
I’m just curious on everyone’s take on this league structure and if you believe the whole fee/”rake” situation is can be reworked to have the best of both worlds.