Tournament Poker Edge (1 Viewer)

[AdamAAAA]

Morning guys.

Has anyone had any experience with using Tournament Poker Edge? Either positive or negative. Or heard anything about the site?

I'm a big fan of the Thinking Poker podcasts and they're usually selling the website on there. I've had a look and there are a lot of instructional videos (unsure on quality), and seem to have a fairly active forum, although no where near as busy as other free poker forums out there.

I really want to work on my tournament game, having read a bunch of books, practiced a lot of live play and short of shelling out thousands for coaching, I figured this may be the next logical step?

What a lot videos and books lack is that interaction to ask 'why', when I don't always understand or agree with what I'm watching or reading.

Anyway, does anyone have any thoughts, or a better recommendation to take my learning to the next level? I'd also like to find someone on my timezone to talk poker with, either face to face, Skype or just via IM. Not sure where to start there?

Thanks.
Adam

 

[Poker Zombie]

The only poker instructional video service I paid for was PokerVT.com (now defunct). This was during the poker boom, probablly pre 2010.

It was useful in that there was a lot of continuity, the way you would expect a class to be taught. Each lesson built upon the previous lesson. I only stuck around for 1-2 months, binge watching as many videos as my brain could hold. Lessons learned aside, it was more enjoyable than most classes I've ever taken, because this was something I could use.

In the end, it gave me another tool to bring to the tables. Most of what I paid for is probablly available for free via YouTube or over podcasts, or in a library book, but the continuity made it a little easier to absorb.

Today I doubt that I would pay for a service, unless I was able to start playing competitive (as opposed to social) poker on a regular basis again. Since you have a casino you can frequent, I would say it's not a bad idea. Brains learn in different ways, and what you might have read once or twice may not stick, where seeing it (with visual aids) and hearing someone tell you the information may help it connect better.

 

[Pinball]

Tournament Poker Edge has a good Reputation. And many good players have learnt from them. Even I made some improvement with Tournament Poker Edge

 

[AdamAAAA]

Thanks guys.

The prices seem reasonable, and they let you download the videos which is perfect for me. My only concern is the forum. If you cannot get feedback from the 'pros' who make the videos then I just as well stick to watching the free videos on the internet.

Also, they run a 'TPE University', which seems to guide you in a logical order through learning.

 

[Adam Crowley]

I find most poker videos lack the why function. It is a blessing and a curse. Each hand in poker is really complex, to truly improve you have to question your self and the decisions you make. If they provided an if A then do B scenario you would never learn how to improve on your own.

When I was watching poker videos I would pause the video before they make a decision and decide what I would do before each situation and ask myself what my reasoning was before watching how they play the hand and what they said about it. This identified the key concepts that I already had down pat and the ones I had to learn more about. Sometimes you have to do some leg work, but a Google search can often turn up the answer to your questions.

 

[AdamAAAA]

Thanks Adam.

I've tried to do the same, particularly watching old WSOP final tables before they showed the hole cards and I'd try put players on a range based on their play and see what I'd do on each side before watching the action. Only thing here as we've said is I have no one to talk to when it comes to questioning why a player acted differently to how I would have expected.

And I think this is a problem with my location. There just aren't that many people as interested in poker strategy as me so no one to really talk to in detail on a regular basis.

This is why I thought about coaching, but I don't think I'd see much ROI after paying $200-300 per hour for a session.

 

[Poker Zombie]

Any thread by @DrStrange gives a goodly amount of "Why" discussion. It's also interactive, so if you don't get "why", someone is usually willing to explain it to you.

 

[DrStrange]

Posting your hand histories and engaging in discussion is a great pairing to other forms of training. "classroom" style training, either video or written, is good for your game. But reviewing your game after the session is over is also good for your game. The two methods are complementary.

Also the shared hand history is good for the community as well. We all get a chance to learn something from the discussion.

 

[Adam Crowley]

Thanks Adam.

I've tried to do the same, particularly watching old WSOP final tables before they showed the hole cards and I'd try put players on a range based on their play and see what I'd do on each side before watching the action. Only thing here as we've said is I have no one to talk to when it comes to questioning why a player acted differently to how I would have expected.

And I think this is a problem with my location. There just aren't that many people as interested in poker strategy as me so no one to really talk to in detail on a regular basis.

This is why I thought about coaching, but I don't think I'd see much ROI after paying $200-300 per hour for a session.

As a side note to this, post the hands from your video in the forum. Include all relevant information, include reads and game flow etc. You can post it as a play through hand like most do, or just post the whole hand and ask for an explanation on the concepts. There is some pretty talented poker players on this forum I am sure you will at least get part way to answering your questions.

EDIT: And as DrStrange posted above, this method proves valuable to everyone

EDIT EDIT: I also don't think coaching is plus EV compared to most other forms of training. The only time I would consider coaching is if you are already an established pro, paying for coaching from the top players in a specific game format. If your not playing full time and studying full time, you won't ever play enough hands, or put the work in off the felt to make back the money you spent coaching. If you are doing these things already, you will learn everything the coach has to say through cheaper channels (online poker videos, strategy discussion with people playing the same games as you etc.)

 

[onerand]

I like Andrew Brokos; smart player.