Tournament Denominations of 1 and 5

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I keep being surprised by seeing tournament denominations down to the low values of T1 and T5. I have never played in a tournament at home or at a casino with denominations under T25. I kind of expect to see the T1 & T5 denominations in very old chip sets...but I'm kind of surprised to see the low value chips in newer sets like Jacks, Harrah's, etc. (I know the values are all relative...but still I find it odd). My home tournament chipset starts with T100 as the lowest denomination.

Was there a time when T1 and T5 were extremely popular?
Does the T1 & T5 value seem odd to anyone, or is it just me?
 

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I think T25 became "standard" with the popularization of the "classic" WSOP main event format of T10000 in chips with 25-50 starting blinds. (This has since changed to T60000 starting at 100-200).

At my local club, I think T25 has been the standard as long as I can remember (2003), but I have vague memories of T5 chips being used as antes for stud events.
 

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That said, base T5 was very popular in online tournaments at that time. Most sit-and-gos were T1000 starting at 5-10, so it wouldn't shock me if they were also used in casinos at that point.

I know the Harrah's Cherokee chips that came to PCF last year started at base T5.
 

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A lot of the NCV 1 and 5 chips these days are used for blackjack tournaments, or if the casino offers lessons on games. They obviously won’t use value chips for this.
 

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You can use any set of denominations you want for a tournament. T0.01 to T100,000,000, it makes no difference as long as you have the appropriate blind structure to match.
I realize this as I noted in my original post. But I just don't really like using 1 & 5 for some reason. I didn't realize the blackjack tourney angle.
 

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Other things being equal (ie 200BB starting stacks plus one full re-buy, so 400BB available per player, and including color-ups), you would need per player:
-Either T400 with T1x10, T5x8, T25x12, T100x5: 35 chips
-Or T400 with T1x10, T5x10, T20x10, T100x6: 36 chips
-Or T2000 with T5x10, T25x10, T100x10, T500x6: 36 chips
-Or T4,000 with T10x10, T50x8, T100X10, T500x8, T1000x4: 40 chips
-Or T10,000 with T25x12, T100x12, T500x5, T1000x8, T5000x2: 39 chips
-Or T10,000 with T25x8, T100x8, T500x6, T1000x7, T5000x2: 31 chips

You can add as many zeroes to the values as desired.
As always, the above is subject to @BGinGA 's approval:)
 

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T25 became "standard" with the popularization of the "classic" WSOP main event format of T10000 in chips with 25-50 starting blinds.
Indeed. A lot of the smaller WSOP events (T1500 stacks, etc.) used T5-base sets. The old WSOP 'secondary' 818-spotted set has T5 chips, which were used for non-Hold'em events (like Stud, where smaller chips for antes were needed).

I"ve seen a lot of bar tournaments that used a T1-base set.
 

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T400 with T1x10, T5x8, T25x12, T100x5: 35 chips
That's = T850 not T400
-Or T400 with T1x10, T5x10, T20x10, T100x6: 36 chips
That's T860 not T400
-Or T2000 with T5x10, T25x10, T100x10, T500x6: 36 chips
That's = T4,300 not T2000
-Or T4,000 with T10x10, T50x8, T100X10, T500x8, T1000x4: 40 chips
That's = T9,500 not T4,000
-Or T10,000 with T25x12, T100x12, T500x5, T1000x8, T5000x2: 39 chips
That's = T22,000 not T10,000
-Or T10,000 with T25x8, T100x8, T500x6, T1000x7, T5000x2: 31 chips
That's = T21,000 not T10,000.

As always, the above is subject to @BGinGA 's approval:)
Definitely not BGinGA-approved. :confused
 

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I remember playing in a T-120 game using dice chips to represent denominations of 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, and 50.

I also remember a dice chip T-100 game where the blinds began at 1/2 and increased each time someone was eliminated.

Good times. But not good enough to go back to that mess.
 

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That's = T850 not T400

That's T860 not T400

That's = T4,300 not T2000

That's = T9,500 not T4,000

That's = T22,000 not T10,000

That's = T21,000 not T10,000.


Definitely not BGinGA-approved. :confused

@Coyote was including 1 rebuy per player plus extra chips for colour-ups in his calculations
 

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Just pointing out the totals; I take no responsibility for the denom choices....
Calculating color-ups per player is flawed -- to be accurate, it should be done by total chips to be removed, not on a per-player basis.
 
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