To murder or not to murder? (1 Viewer)

[KarateMaster72]

I have a 700 chipset of Jack casino Cincinnati. I bought them during the summer sale from the chip room. I have been wanting a custom set and I really don't have the funds to do it through CPC at this moment. Should I murder my jacks? And then here is the second question, Is there a way to get actual inlays? New inlays for the chip and have them pressed in? Or do I have to go with labels from gear. Hit me with all your knowledge please

 

[RichMahogany]

Murder: yes

Inlay: no

Gear Labels: yes

 

[Eriks]

Murder: yes

Inlay: no

Gear Labels: yes

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[mipevi]

What’s the rush? Start designing your CPC set, it can take months to do it well. By the time you’ve got it figured out, you probably have the funds ready as well.

 

[KarateMaster72]

What’s the rush? Start designing your CPC set, it can take months to do it well. By the time you’ve got it figured out, you probably have the funds ready as well.

Yes. I was thinking that as well. Now to make some people mad. I have played with CPC chips. My friend has a set. They just feel a little light to me. As compared to different Paulsons. Not saying I hate them by any means. And I'm sure I would adjust fairly quickly. Just thinking out loud I guess And I'm sure I would adjust fairly quickly. Just thinking out loud I guess

 

[Eriks]

Yes. I was thinking that as well. Now to make some people mad. I have played with CPC chips. My friend has a set. They just feel a little light to me. As compared to different Paulsons. Not saying I hate them by any means. And I'm sure I would adjust fairly quickly. Just thinking out loud I guess And I'm sure I would adjust fairly quickly. Just thinking out loud I guess

There are differencies in feel/weight between the different molds. Also, if you keep to weighted base colors that will add some to to the weight

 

[mipevi]

Yeah, I find that what people tend to like is more or less just what they’re used to. If you handle a certain type of chip long and then try another that’s new to you, the latter will likely feel off to you. But if you keep handling the second type, you will adjust, just like you said. If you want truly custom clays, CPC is the only game in town.

 

[KarateMaster72]

So here's what I think I'm going to do. I'm going to sell off my" collection" except for the super Poker worlds I have on order. And I will use the funds to get a CPC set as well as money that I add to it. Because I'm going to want a cash set and a tournament set.

So in the very near future you're going to see these items for sale. Once I'm ready I will post them in the classifieds with pictures.

A 1000 piece set of majestics China clays oiled and used only twice. Consisting of $1, $5, $25, $100, $500 and $1,000 chips. With a rolling case. A majestic dealer button.
$250 plus shipping

1000 tournament chipset wild horse casino from straight poker supplies. They are basically relabeled Milano. $25 up to $10,000 and a case. Also oiled and never used.
$200 plus shipping

A 1000 piece chipset of dunes, China clays. 25 cent $1 $5 $25 $100. With two 500 chip cases and a dunes dealer button. Also oiled and also only used twice.
$250 plus shipping

1000 piece BrPro Poker Dia de Los Muertos chips used once, with 60 mm dealer button.
25 cents $1 $5. $25 $100 $500.
$375 plus shipping or $450 with brand new versa games heavy duty gun metal bird cage and racks.

1,000 piece outlaw poker slugos tournament set. From $25 to $10,000. With case used once. $125 plus shipping

1000 piece cash club sluggos from straight poker supplies in Canada. 25 cent $1 $5, $25 and $100. Never used. Just bought last month
$150 plus shipping

700 piece Jack casino chipset. All the chips are in relatively very good condition but used. I have never used them myself. All cleaned and oiled. $1 $5, $25 and 40 $100 chips. With two Jack casino dealer buttons, one white one green.
$525 plus shipping

500 piece unicorn casino chipset. They are brand new also used only once. They are pretty much like NextGens.
$130

500 piece milano's chipset. 50 cent $1 $5. $25 $100. Used five times oiled.
$150 plus shipping

I think I should be able to get close to my asking price on these sets or within reason. And that will go towards my custom set

 

[KarateMaster72]

There are differencies in feel/weight between the different molds. Also, if you keep to weighted base colors that will add some to to the weight

I heard some molds are better than others. Which are the best molds

 

[LeLe]

I suggest you keep or sold the Jack Cincin set last, it the only set that the value will hold / grow overtime

As you mentioned you may prefer Paulson over CPC, I will keep it incase that is the truth in the future

For CPC Mold, it best to buy or borrow samples as each Mold are noticeably different from each another. For example the HHR set I had sound different and Felt harder than my FDL set

Everyone taste is different

 

[Eriks]

I heard some molds are better than others. Which are the best molds

All subjective of course but imo the great ones are scrown, lcrown, circle square, jockey, b-mold, diamond/square, horsehead and h-mold.

Next tier: FDL, elephant & crown, plain

Like the look but not the feel: A-mold

Dislikes: scroll, cards and dice, hourglass

 

[grantc54]

A few other points to keep in mind (I think you've already made up your mind though):

- murdered/labelled chips do sound slightly different than original inlay chips

- I would put money on a Gear labelled chip (a couple weeks after label install) being more durable than a CPC inlayed chip.

- the Jack primary chips don't really leverage the other advantage Paulson has over CPC, brighter colours. You may want to consider other Paulson chips as well (if you are relabelling no need to stick with chips from one casino)

Personally I prefer Paulson to CPC but still hope to one day do a CPC custom set.

Thanks
Grant

 

[SteveEH]

I heard some molds are better than others. Which are the best molds

Get samples. Start with the molds you think are visually appealing or will work with your theme. Get a minimum of 10 so you can shuffle them and get a good idea of how they feel.

You'll also need color samples. The chip design tool colours vary on different monitors.

Edit: also if sound is a concern make sure your samples have inlays as plain/stamped chips sound a little different.

 

[KarateMaster72]

Looking back on this post, I feel I may have underpriced the jacks and a little bit on the china clays. I don't know. I'll really have to sit and decide the prices when I finally bite the bullet.

 

[LeLe]

Looking back on this post, I feel I may have underpriced the jacks and a little bit on the china clays. I don't know. I'll really have to sit and decide the prices when I finally bite the bullet.

If you bought them at the second TCR sales, they are priced at that price

The price raise up a bit after the Jack Cincinnati is sold out.

 

[Nanook]

You have to be patient, but it is possible to buy Paulsons, murder them and put labels on all for considerably less than you would pay for a CPC set. Probably have to go with RHC, not THC and doing the work yourself will save you quite a bit too. Neither one is right or wrong in my opinion and there is probably a spot for 1 of each in a lot of members collection.

 

[KarateMaster72]

Who knows how many chips fit in a large flat rate box?

 

[Nanook]

Who knows how many chips fit in a large flat rate box?

I do

More will fit, but anything over 700 is a bad idea.
You can get 900 into a mfrb, but my suggestion is to use multiple mfrb for anything over that.

The large flat rate boxes get too heavy and the box winds up getting broken

 

[KarateMaster72]

I do

More will fit, but anything over 700 is a bad idea.
You can get 900 into a mfrb, but my suggestion is to use multiple mfrb for anything over that.

The large flat rate boxes get too heavy and the box winds up getting broken

So you suggest flat rate medium over flat rate large?

 

[slisk250]

I love @Gear labels inlay replacements. They are laminated and you have a choice of finishes. I would not hesitate to do it. Chris did about 2000 chips fo r me in 2 sets of starburst. Amazing.

You mention cost. I would not do this to save money, however. It is a pricey project. I’d first mock my CPC set and see what it would cost. Add more for your chosen artist. Once you have your numbers you can make a decision.

 

[Nanook]

So you suggest flat rate medium over flat rate large?

Yes I would.

2 x Mfrb = $16 x 2 = $32 &
1 x lfrb = $25
So if you did 2x mfrb for say 10 or 12 racks of chips sending them in 1 lfrb is only going to save you $7 & that is not nearly enough to offset the extra risk from having so much weight in 1 box

 

[Jeevansluck]

If you put 900 chips in an MFRb, I’d say prepare to receive some chip dust.

I’d use the LFRb and add some foam and good packing in the box.

I’ve received my entire collection over 3 years and countless Mfr and Lfr boxes. I’ve never done 900. I did 800 once in an MFRb and I was nervous for the chips survival.

Just my .02 cents

 

[Nanook]

900 chips will fit inside a MFRB, but DO NOT DO IT!!

and by the way, don't put 900 chips inside a LFRB either. Literally every time someone has sent me more than 700 chips in either a mfrb or a lfrb the box got broken and at least a few chips were broken or missing. I have sent and received well over 200 sfrb & mfrb with <= 700 chips and not once has this happened and like 3/3 times when more than 700 chips went into either a mfrb or lfrb bad things happened like this: Trust me, this is NOT how your buyer wants to see his chips come in. Spend the extra $7 and ship them in 2 separate mfrb

 

[umbkcshah]

I received 800 CM in a MFRB recently. However they were in warnekes. Secondary packaging is important to limit drastic movement

 

[KarateMaster72]

Here's another question for you guys since I'm thinking of a custom set. Pretty standard colors for the $1 $5 $25. $100 chips. Basically blue. Retro red. Green. And black.
But they will have dayglow edge spots. I can post pictures. But do you recommend a black inlay or white inlay. And then on the a mold 7/8 or 1 in.

 

[KarateMaster72]

By the way, the 500 chip will be white and the $0.25 chip will be lavender. I don't need a 500 chip but I want one and after you see it you might like it. So I'm getting 10 of them. Oh one last question, do the retro colors for a base color cost more? I didn't see anything on that?

 

[Josh Kifer]

MFRB can hold 700-800, but 700 is the sweet spot. LFRB can do 1000, but I try and stick with MFRB has the primary method. It's the best value for hassle imo.

 

[KarateMaster72]

Here are the chips.

 

[LeLe]

By the way, the 500 chip will be white and the $0.25 chip will be lavender. I don't need a 500 chip but I want one and after you see it you might like it. So I'm getting 10 of them. Oh one last question, do the retro colors for a base color cost more? I didn't see anything on that?

AFAIK there’s no price difference in choosing colour

The difference depend only the Size, Mold and edges chosen

 

[LeLe]

Here are the chips.

It might be easier if you save all the denominations under the same file