Tina Card Mold vs No Mold (1 Viewer)

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Hello guys, neewbie here. I am looking to buy my first set of chips (500 chips set) and was wondering which one is better between Tina's card mold (smooth finish) and no mold (textured finish).
I read that the card mold may have problems stacking, after some use will they become too slippery for stacks of 15 chips?

Which one do you think is better and why?

Which one do you think will last longer (not get too slippery, no color fading, etc.)
 
All below is just my opinion, some disagree and prefer the cards mold because they like the look/feel of the indent.


Cards mold have little indented cards, I found them much more slippery than the textured no-molds. Smooth no molds are the worst of both worlds and are way too slippery, bad for stacking.

I preferred 43mm no-molds, they stack just fine. Spinner wise, you get some extras, I ordered about 20 extra of each denom for sample sets and spinners; only had about 7 chips spread across 1200 that were bad spinners, and honestly my players would only noticed the 3 worst of those, the rest aren't as bad.

More room for my design, didn't have to worry about the indents messing with the face, and the texture is just right. Barely looks different but the feel is much better. Lasting longer I can't speak to too much, but I've used them for probably ~40 hours of play and haven't seen fading or degrading. That's nothing compared to a lifetime of use but that's what I've got for you.


https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/the-ice-cardroom-antarctic-cash-set.98574/
 
All below is just my opinion, some disagree and prefer the cards mold because they like the look/feel of the indent.


Cards mold have little indented cards, I found them much more slippery than the textured no-molds. Smooth no molds are the worst of both worlds and are way too slippery, bad for stacking.

I preferred 43mm no-molds, they stack just fine. Spinner wise, you get some extras, I ordered about 20 extra of each denom for sample sets and spinners; only had about 7 chips spread across 1200 that were bad spinners, and honestly my players would only noticed the 3 worst of those, the rest aren't as bad.

More room for my design, didn't have to worry about the indents messing with the face, and the texture is just right. Barely looks different but the feel is much better. Lasting longer I can't speak to too much, but I've used them for probably ~40 hours of play and haven't seen fading or degrading. That's nothing compared to a lifetime of use but that's what I've got for you.


https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/the-ice-cardroom-antarctic-cash-set.98574/
How do the card mold slipperiness compare to maybe a plastic chips?
 
How do the card mold slipperiness compare to maybe a plastic chips?
Plastics are the worst, no comparison.

Sun-Fly card molds have more grip than casino-used Paulson RHC chips. Tina card molds are slightly less grippy with more spinners.
 
Plastics are the worst, no comparison.

Sun-Fly card molds have more grip than casino-used Paulson RHC chips. Tina card molds are slightly less grippy with more spinners.
Do they eventually wear down and become too slippery to stack 20 chips?
 
Do they eventually wear down and become too slippery to stack 20 chips?
Well, mine haven't, but I rotate through a lot of different sets over the course of a year. Sets with heavy use may differ, ymmv.
 
I have (for science sake) the following Tina's

some Card Mold 39mm chips, very slippery, don't stack well and high% (3-5/barrel) of spinners
some Card Mold 43mm chips, slightly less slippery, stack pretty well, low& (1-2/barrel) of spinners
some No Mold textured 39mm chips, stack nicely, not really slippery and very low& (1-2/rack) of spinners

Print quality the same on all of them, except for the card mold chips there is some color differences/shading issues in the mold indentions on some chips.

I'm would only go with No Mold textured for any future purchases. Still think they are worth it at the price point.
 
We have been talking via PM Justin, but others that may still be curious on the subject... I feel like everyone knows my opinions and those that took the opposition and defending cards molds... well I am willing to bet none of them have banked 200 hours on their sets yet... and very curious of what their opinions will be when they start hitting that range.

My set of cards molds are fantastic and have exactly zero hours banked on them thus far
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But the set that did have around 200 hours banked on them were slippery as hell, I don't even know how to count the # of spinners... over half. My personal opinion would be to stay away from those chips.

As far as "no molds" I feel like we're are referencing ceramic blanks... my experience with those are the original "scrub donkey" chips from the group buy ran by @Marhault , and countless hours spent on designs by @Kensco and artwork by the amazing @BonScot and from my understanding these were made by Tina
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I love everything about these chips for the price point they were at. Literally nothing but compliments years later from chippers and non chippers alike. We only have maybe 16 - 20 hours banked but the heavy texture feels like it is made for the long haul! I would recommend these chips.

But hands down my favorite Tina chips are the Hybrid Ceramics with the textured inlays
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I haven't found any with "spinning issues" and I believe that is due to less surface area touching and also they have an almost rubber feel to them, very grippy but also still a great weight and the textured inlay is 100 times better than the "printed on" face of the cards molds
20221014_163312.jpg

Unlike the sunfly inlays these are all perfectly laying flat within the recess. These have a matte finish and they are fantastic on the felt as the high gloos often have bad reflections from table lights, and if the inlays are not laying perfectly flat in the recess it can be quite tilting to the keen eye. Very high recommendation on these chips.

As far as 43mm cards molds, I was very excited... until I felt samples. The clank and feel felt very cheap to me, didn't like the sound, the feel. I was planning on ordering all 43mm and quickly changed to the 39mm hybrids.

Remeber everyone has their own opinion on chips, as the veterans will always suggest... never go off of others opinions, at this point there are hundreds of thousands of these chips in the market. Put out a wanted ad for a sample set or shuffle stack and someone will likely help you out so you can get a feel for each option yourself.

For anyone looking to make a bit more of an investment over all of these choices, I 100% recommend the "regular blanks" by our vendor here @BR Pro Poker . I believe they still have some of the older chipco blanks and many here are fans of those, typically I would say "bring on the texture" but the regular blanks remind me of perfectly flat river stones. An absolutely perfect weight and just the right amount of grip.
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How amazed was I in their quality? Well I added on twice to make this ready for anything and any stakes 2 table set.

If your heart is set on a 43mm ceramic set, even after complaining about the inlays laying flat... everything else about the Sunfly 43mm ceramic Hybrids it pretty amazing and as veteran chipper @MegaTon44 has swapped out almost his entire collection to these I believe he would agree on their quality, feel and durability.
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Hands down over clay this is my go to ready for anything chips. I have banked several uses on these and everyone loves them (except clay snobs! Lol).

There are many options out there in the ceramics (economy) line of poker chips. Again I highly suggest getting samples especially before investing in larger chip count sets.

Hope that helps folks
Ben
 
We have been talking via PM Justin, but others that may still be curious on the subject... I feel like everyone knows my opinions and those that took the opposition and defending cards molds... well I am willing to bet none of them have banked 200 hours on their sets yet... and very curious of what their opinions will be when they start hitting that range.

My set of cards molds are fantastic and have exactly zero hours banked on them thus far
View attachment 1117099
But the set that did have around 200 hours banked on them were slippery as hell, I don't even know how to count the # of spinners... over half. My personal opinion would be to stay away from those chips.

As far as "no molds" I feel like we're are referencing ceramic blanks... my experience with those are the original "scrub donkey" chips from the group buy ran by @Marhault , and countless hours spent on designs by @Kensco and artwork by the amazing @BonScot and from my understanding these were made by Tina
View attachment 1117103
I love everything about these chips for the price point they were at. Literally nothing but compliments years later from chippers and non chippers alike. We only have maybe 16 - 20 hours banked but the heavy texture feels like it is made for the long haul! I would recommend these chips.

But hands down my favorite Tina chips are the Hybrid Ceramics with the textured inlays
View attachment 1117105
I haven't found any with "spinning issues" and I believe that is due to less surface area touching and also they have an almost rubber feel to them, very grippy but also still a great weight and the textured inlay is 100 times better than the "printed on" face of the cards molds
View attachment 1117108
Unlike the sunfly inlays these are all perfectly laying flat within the recess. These have a matte finish and they are fantastic on the felt as the high gloos often have bad reflections from table lights, and if the inlays are not laying perfectly flat in the recess it can be quite tilting to the keen eye. Very high recommendation on these chips.

As far as 43mm cards molds, I was very excited... until I felt samples. The clank and feel felt very cheap to me, didn't like the sound, the feel. I was planning on ordering all 43mm and quickly changed to the 39mm hybrids.

Remeber everyone has their own opinion on chips, as the veterans will always suggest... never go off of others opinions, at this point there are hundreds of thousands of these chips in the market. Put out a wanted ad for a sample set or shuffle stack and someone will likely help you out so you can get a feel for each option yourself.

For anyone looking to make a bit more of an investment over all of these choices, I 100% recommend the "regular blanks" by our vendor here @BR Pro Poker . I believe they still have some of the older chipco blanks and many here are fans of those, typically I would say "bring on the texture" but the regular blanks remind me of perfectly flat river stones. An absolutely perfect weight and just the right amount of grip.
View attachment 1117111
How amazed was I in their quality? Well I added on twice to make this ready for anything and any stakes 2 table set.

If your heart is set on a 43mm ceramic set, even after complaining about the inlays laying flat... everything else about the Sunfly 43mm ceramic Hybrids it pretty amazing and as veteran chipper @MegaTon44 has swapped out almost his entire collection to these I believe he would agree on their quality, feel and durability.
View attachment 1117113
Hands down over clay this is my go to ready for anything chips. I have banked several uses on these and everyone loves them (except clay snobs! Lol).

There are many options out there in the ceramics (economy) line of poker chips. Again I highly suggest getting samples especially before investing in larger chip count sets.

Hope that helps folks
Ben
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There he is!
 
We have been talking via PM Justin, but others that may still be curious on the subject... I feel like everyone knows my opinions and those that took the opposition and defending cards molds... well I am willing to bet none of them have banked 200 hours on their sets yet... and very curious of what their opinions will be when they start hitting that range.

My set of cards molds are fantastic and have exactly zero hours banked on them thus far

But the set that did have around 200 hours banked on them were slippery as hell, I don't even know how to count the # of spinners... over half. My personal opinion would be to stay away from those chips.

As far as "no molds" I feel like we're are referencing ceramic blanks... my experience with those are the original "scrub donkey" chips from the group buy ran by @Marhault , and countless hours spent on designs by @Kensco and artwork by the amazing @BonScot and from my understanding these were made by Tina

I love everything about these chips for the price point they were at. Literally nothing but compliments years later from chippers and non chippers alike. We only have maybe 16 - 20 hours banked but the heavy texture feels like it is made for the long haul! I would recommend these chips.

But hands down my favorite Tina chips are the Hybrid Ceramics with the textured inlays

I haven't found any with "spinning issues" and I believe that is due to less surface area touching and also they have an almost rubber feel to them, very grippy but also still a great weight and the textured inlay is 100 times better than the "printed on" face of the cards molds

Unlike the sunfly inlays these are all perfectly laying flat within the recess. These have a matte finish and they are fantastic on the felt as the high gloos often have bad reflections from table lights, and if the inlays are not laying perfectly flat in the recess it can be quite tilting to the keen eye. Very high recommendation on these chips.

As far as 43mm cards molds, I was very excited... until I felt samples. The clank and feel felt very cheap to me, didn't like the sound, the feel. I was planning on ordering all 43mm and quickly changed to the 39mm hybrids.

Remeber everyone has their own opinion on chips, as the veterans will always suggest... never go off of others opinions, at this point there are hundreds of thousands of these chips in the market. Put out a wanted ad for a sample set or shuffle stack and someone will likely help you out so you can get a feel for each option yourself.

For anyone looking to make a bit more of an investment over all of these choices, I 100% recommend the "regular blanks" by our vendor here @BR Pro Poker . I believe they still have some of the older chipco blanks and many here are fans of those, typically I would say "bring on the texture" but the regular blanks remind me of perfectly flat river stones. An absolutely perfect weight and just the right amount of grip.

How amazed was I in their quality? Well I added on twice to make this ready for anything and any stakes 2 table set.

If your heart is set on a 43mm ceramic set, even after complaining about the inlays laying flat... everything else about the Sunfly 43mm ceramic Hybrids it pretty amazing and as veteran chipper @MegaTon44 has swapped out almost his entire collection to these I believe he would agree on their quality, feel and durability.

Hands down over clay this is my go to ready for anything chips. I have banked several uses on these and everyone loves them (except clay snobs! Lol).

There are many options out there in the ceramics (economy) line of poker chips. Again I highly suggest getting samples especially before investing in larger chip count sets.

Hope that helps folks
Ben

A very helpful post!
 
We have been talking via PM Justin, but others that may still be curious on the subject... I feel like everyone knows my opinions and those that took the opposition and defending cards molds... well I am willing to bet none of them have banked 200 hours on their sets yet... and very curious of what their opinions will be when they start hitting that range.

My set of cards molds are fantastic and have exactly zero hours banked on them thus far
View attachment 1117099
But the set that did have around 200 hours banked on them were slippery as hell, I don't even know how to count the # of spinners... over half. My personal opinion would be to stay away from those chips.

As far as "no molds" I feel like we're are referencing ceramic blanks... my experience with those are the original "scrub donkey" chips from the group buy ran by @Marhault , and countless hours spent on designs by @Kensco and artwork by the amazing @BonScot and from my understanding these were made by Tina
View attachment 1117103
I love everything about these chips for the price point they were at. Literally nothing but compliments years later from chippers and non chippers alike. We only have maybe 16 - 20 hours banked but the heavy texture feels like it is made for the long haul! I would recommend these chips.

But hands down my favorite Tina chips are the Hybrid Ceramics with the textured inlays
View attachment 1117105
I haven't found any with "spinning issues" and I believe that is due to less surface area touching and also they have an almost rubber feel to them, very grippy but also still a great weight and the textured inlay is 100 times better than the "printed on" face of the cards molds
View attachment 1117108
Unlike the sunfly inlays these are all perfectly laying flat within the recess. These have a matte finish and they are fantastic on the felt as the high gloos often have bad reflections from table lights, and if the inlays are not laying perfectly flat in the recess it can be quite tilting to the keen eye. Very high recommendation on these chips.

As far as 43mm cards molds, I was very excited... until I felt samples. The clank and feel felt very cheap to me, didn't like the sound, the feel. I was planning on ordering all 43mm and quickly changed to the 39mm hybrids.

Remeber everyone has their own opinion on chips, as the veterans will always suggest... never go off of others opinions, at this point there are hundreds of thousands of these chips in the market. Put out a wanted ad for a sample set or shuffle stack and someone will likely help you out so you can get a feel for each option yourself.

For anyone looking to make a bit more of an investment over all of these choices, I 100% recommend the "regular blanks" by our vendor here @BR Pro Poker . I believe they still have some of the older chipco blanks and many here are fans of those, typically I would say "bring on the texture" but the regular blanks remind me of perfectly flat river stones. An absolutely perfect weight and just the right amount of grip.
View attachment 1117111
How amazed was I in their quality? Well I added on twice to make this ready for anything and any stakes 2 table set.

If your heart is set on a 43mm ceramic set, even after complaining about the inlays laying flat... everything else about the Sunfly 43mm ceramic Hybrids it pretty amazing and as veteran chipper @MegaTon44 has swapped out almost his entire collection to these I believe he would agree on their quality, feel and durability.
View attachment 1117113
Hands down over clay this is my go to ready for anything chips. I have banked several uses on these and everyone loves them (except clay snobs! Lol).

There are many options out there in the ceramics (economy) line of poker chips. Again I highly suggest getting samples especially before investing in larger chip count sets.

Hope that helps folks
Ben
Fantastic review.
Can we get a sticky, please? :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
We have been talking via PM Justin, but others that may still be curious on the subject... I feel like everyone knows my opinions and those that took the opposition and defending cards molds... well I am willing to bet none of them have banked 200 hours on their sets yet... and very curious of what their opinions will be when they start hitting that range.

My set of cards molds are fantastic and have exactly zero hours banked on them thus far
View attachment 1117099
But the set that did have around 200 hours banked on them were slippery as hell, I don't even know how to count the # of spinners... over half. My personal opinion would be to stay away from those chips.

As far as "no molds" I feel like we're are referencing ceramic blanks... my experience with those are the original "scrub donkey" chips from the group buy ran by @Marhault , and countless hours spent on designs by @Kensco and artwork by the amazing @BonScot and from my understanding these were made by Tina
View attachment 1117103
I love everything about these chips for the price point they were at. Literally nothing but compliments years later from chippers and non chippers alike. We only have maybe 16 - 20 hours banked but the heavy texture feels like it is made for the long haul! I would recommend these chips.

But hands down my favorite Tina chips are the Hybrid Ceramics with the textured inlays
View attachment 1117105
I haven't found any with "spinning issues" and I believe that is due to less surface area touching and also they have an almost rubber feel to them, very grippy but also still a great weight and the textured inlay is 100 times better than the "printed on" face of the cards molds
View attachment 1117108
Unlike the sunfly inlays these are all perfectly laying flat within the recess. These have a matte finish and they are fantastic on the felt as the high gloos often have bad reflections from table lights, and if the inlays are not laying perfectly flat in the recess it can be quite tilting to the keen eye. Very high recommendation on these chips.

As far as 43mm cards molds, I was very excited... until I felt samples. The clank and feel felt very cheap to me, didn't like the sound, the feel. I was planning on ordering all 43mm and quickly changed to the 39mm hybrids.

Remeber everyone has their own opinion on chips, as the veterans will always suggest... never go off of others opinions, at this point there are hundreds of thousands of these chips in the market. Put out a wanted ad for a sample set or shuffle stack and someone will likely help you out so you can get a feel for each option yourself.

For anyone looking to make a bit more of an investment over all of these choices, I 100% recommend the "regular blanks" by our vendor here @BR Pro Poker . I believe they still have some of the older chipco blanks and many here are fans of those, typically I would say "bring on the texture" but the regular blanks remind me of perfectly flat river stones. An absolutely perfect weight and just the right amount of grip.
View attachment 1117111
How amazed was I in their quality? Well I added on twice to make this ready for anything and any stakes 2 table set.

If your heart is set on a 43mm ceramic set, even after complaining about the inlays laying flat... everything else about the Sunfly 43mm ceramic Hybrids it pretty amazing and as veteran chipper @MegaTon44 has swapped out almost his entire collection to these I believe he would agree on their quality, feel and durability.
View attachment 1117113
Hands down over clay this is my go to ready for anything chips. I have banked several uses on these and everyone loves them (except clay snobs! Lol).

There are many options out there in the ceramics (economy) line of poker chips. Again I highly suggest getting samples especially before investing in larger chip count sets.

Hope that helps folks
Ben
I’m pretty sure you’re right about the scrub donkey chips being Tina. I had absolutely f*** all to do with the ordering process (because it was too much like hard work :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: ) but when the gimp chips were made I’m sure they were made by Tina and that’s why Todd went for those for the donkeys.
 
well I am willing to bet none of them have banked 200 hours on their sets yet... and very curious of what their opinions will be when they start hitting that range.
Not sure who "them" is but I will take that bet
 
I have (for science sake) the following Tina's

some Card Mold 39mm chips, very slippery, don't stack well and high% (3-5/barrel) of spinners
some Card Mold 43mm chips, slightly less slippery, stack pretty well, low& (1-2/barrel) of spinners
some No Mold textured 39mm chips, stack nicely, not really slippery and very low& (1-2/rack) of spinners

Print quality the same on all of them, except for the card mold chips there is some color differences/shading issues in the mold indentions on some chips.

I'm would only go with No Mold textured for any future purchases. Still think they are worth it at the price point.
Are the no mold textured chips more expensive than the card molds? Still same customization options?
 

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