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I’m pondering a 100/200/200/80/20 mixed Paulson set. I’m averse to relabelling and want denominated chips.

  • $0.25
    • Orange, yellow, or purple base colour
    • What are my options here for $2/chip or less?
    • Dont mind hot stamps
  • $1
    • Live Flamingo, Aria, Caesar’s Palace, or Wynn - I plan to harvest them myself one day
  • $5
    • Live chip from one of the above
    • Or any THC, RHC, or suits mold
    • Happy with a red or yellow 5
    • Not Jack, Horseshoe, Aztar, Terribles, Empress, PCA, PNY, LCO, Sterling, Majestic, or anything too rare/expensive. If it’s over $3 a chip I rather get a live one. I don’t think I have any choices but to go live, but just wanted to double check
  • $25
    • Live Caesar’s palace or Wynn, leaning Caesar’s
    • Same exclusion list as above
    • If it’s over $3 a chip I rather get a live chip
  • $100
    • Live Wynn or Aria, leaning Aria
    • Same exclusion list as above
    • If it’s over $5 a chip I rather get a live chip

Questions for you all:

1. Of the live chips above, which ones do you like best? Which combos do you think will go best together, or would you prefer to compile the whole set from the same casino?

2. Which non-live chips should I consider within my budget per denomination?

3. Any other tips/considerations that I might have overlooked?
 
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khp said:
I’m pondering a 100/200/200/80/20 mixed Paulson set. I’m averse to relabelling and want denominated chips.

  • $0.25
    • Orange, yellow, or purple base colour
    • What are my options here for $2/chip or less?
    • Dont mind hot stamps
  • $1
    • Live Flamingo, Aria, Caesar’s Palace, or Wynn - I plan to harvest them myself one day
  • $5
    • Live chip from one of the above
    • Or any THC, RHC, or suits mold
    • Happy with a red or yellow 5
    • Not Jack, Horseshoe, Aztar, Terribles, Empress, PCA, PNY, LCO, Sterling, Majestic, or anything too rare/expensive. If it’s over $3 a chip I rather get a live one. I don’t think I have any choices but to go live, but just wanted to double check
  • $25
    • Live Caesar’s palace or Wynn, leaning Caesar’s
    • Same exclusion list as above
    • If it’s over $3 a chip I rather get a live chip
  • $100
    • Live Wynn or Aria, leaning Aria
    • Same exclusion list as above
    • If it’s over $5 a chip I rather get a live chip

Questions for you all:

1. Of the live chips above, which ones do you like best? Which combos do you think will go best together, or would you prefer to compile the whole set from the same casino?

2. Which non-live chips should I consider within my budget per denomination?

3. Any other tips/considerations that I might have overlooked?
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So...I had similar thoughts a few years ago. :)

Within your budget, probably not, but I suspect everything is flexible. :) I will say, just go for what you want and bust your budget. Anything less will leave you only yearning for more.

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Quarters for $2 or less will be extremely difficult. Most casinos do not use quarters, many don't use fracs at all. So finding playable quantities of fracs can be extrely difficult.

Based off of your color choices and price range I would say Jokers Wild orange THC Hot stamps from Henderson NV would be the best option. They have multie shades of Orange within most of the racks out there, a few have been cherry picked to be the same or close to the same shade, but most are mixed and definitely some varience in condition (many have worn stamps)

Of all of the quarters I believe these to be the cheapest and right now even for a mixed rack I would expect them to go for around $350 - $400.

Good luck with the hunt!
 
So, on the $1s and $5s, I understand the "rather get a live chip logic," but why for $25 and $100s???

You can get some pretty dang good $25 and $100 chips for much less than face value. Certainly won't be $3, but they won't likely loose value if you decide to sell at a later date.

Just curious about the logic? :)
 
Ben8257 said:
Quarters for $2 or less will be extremely difficult. Most casinos do not use quarters, many don't use fracs at all. So finding playable quantities of fracs can be extrely difficult.

Based off of your color choices and price range I would say Jokers Wild orange THC Hot stamps from Henderson NV would be the best option. They have multie shades of Orange within most of the racks out there, a few have been cherry picked to be the same or close to the same shade, but most are mixed and definitely some varience in condition (many have worn stamps)

Of all of the quarters I believe these to be the cheapest and right now even for a mixed rack I would expect them to go for around $350 - $400.

Good luck with the hunt!
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As far as the varience in colors on the JW, just finished this rack.
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Lots of different oranges in there! Lol
 
khp said:
I’m pondering a 100/200/200/80/20 mixed Paulson set. I’m averse to relabelling and want denominated chips.

  • $0.25
    • Orange, yellow, or purple base colour
    • What are my options here for $2/chip or less?
    • Dont mind hot stamps
  • $1
    • Live Flamingo, Aria, Caesar’s Palace, or Wynn - I plan to harvest them myself one day
  • $5
    • Live chip from one of the above
    • Or any THC, RHC, or suits mold
    • Happy with a red or yellow 5
    • Not Jack, Horseshoe, Aztar, Terribles, Empress, PCA, PNY, LCO, Sterling, Majestic, or anything too rare/expensive. If it’s over $3 a chip I rather get a live one. I don’t think I have any choices but to go live, but just wanted to double check
  • $25
    • Live Caesar’s palace or Wynn, leaning Caesar’s
    • Same exclusion list as above
    • If it’s over $3 a chip I rather get a live chip
  • $100
    • Live Wynn or Aria, leaning Aria
    • Same exclusion list as above
    • If it’s over $5 a chip I rather get a live chip

Questions for you all:

1. Of the live chips above, which ones do you like best? Which combos do you think will go best together, or would you prefer to compile the whole set from the same casino?

2. Which non-live chips should I consider within my budget per denomination?

3. Any other tips/considerations that I might have overlooked?
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Difficult all around, unfortunately, especially if you don’t want to relabel. Your budget is healthy, IMO, but we’re in a period of hyperinflation and hyper-flippation so your budget doesn’t go as far as it used to.

For fracs, I’d consider roulettes, NCVs, T25s, or starbursts…all of these can be found for less than $2/per, which could save you $ to spend on other denoms.

I think your best bet would be to save your $ and wait for the next ChipRoom sale; if you don’t mind used chips, decent sets can be put together at well below your budget.
 
Seeking Alpha Social Club said:
So...I had similar thoughts a few years ago. :)

Within your budget, probably not, but I suspect everything is flexible. :) I will say, just go for what you want and bust your budget. Anything less will leave you only yearning for more.

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What changed your thinking? Did you get rid of your live set, and if so, why?

Speaking of that, @WhiteMamba1646 , I always thought your Aria set was amazing. What made you decide to get rid of it?
Ben8257 said:
Quarters for $2 or less will be extremely difficult. Most casinos do not use quarters, many don't use fracs at all. So finding playable quantities of fracs can be extrely difficult.

Based off of your color choices and price range I would say Jokers Wild orange THC Hot stamps from Henderson NV would be the best option. They have multie shades of Orange within most of the racks out there, a few have been cherry picked to be the same or close to the same shade, but most are mixed and definitely some varience in condition (many have worn stamps)

Of all of the quarters I believe these to be the cheapest and right now even for a mixed rack I would expect them to go for around $350 - $400.

Good luck with the hunt!
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Good information and thank you!
Seeking Alpha Social Club said:
So, on the $1s and $5s, I understand the "rather get a live chip logic," but why for $25 and $100s???

You can get some pretty dang good $25 and $100 chips for much less than face value. Certainly won't be $3, but they won't likely loose value if you decide to sell at a later date.

Just curious about the logic? :)
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The Vegas casinos I mentioned have sentimental value for me (excluding the flamingo, I think it just looks nice and has a cool history). I also think they look great, and would rather pay face value for them than $5-$12 for a NAGB chip or a nice looking chip from a random (to me) closed casino. Maybe I would change my mind though if you have any good suggestions for the $25/$100 chips?
 
ChipFinderSK said:
Difficult all around, unfortunately, especially if you don’t want to relabel. Your budget is healthy, IMO, but we’re in a period of hyperinflation and hyper-flippation so your budget doesn’t go as far as it used to.

For fracs, I’d consider roulettes, NCVs, T25s, or starbursts…all of these can be found for less than $2/per, which could save you $ to spend on other denoms.

I think your best bet would be to save your $ and wait for the next ChipRoom sale; if you don’t mind used chips, decent sets can be put together at well below your budget.
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Yeah, I figured it would be tough. Excluding the fracs, face value is $5200, less expensive than many of the sets sold on this site. The Jokers Wild Fracs are pretty cool, and if @Ben8257 ’s price estimate is right, the total set cost would be ~$5600, still cheaper than many sets.

I agree that TCR sales are great value, I just prefer my custom ceramics to a random (to me) casino. The last TCR sales have all been casinos I’ve never heard of.
 
khp said:
What changed your thinking? Did you get rid of your live set, and if so, why?

Speaking of that, @WhiteMamba1646 , I always thought your Aria set was amazing. What made you decide to get rid of it?

Good information and thank you!

The Vegas casinos I mentioned have sentimental value for me (excluding the flamingo, I think it just looks nice and has a cool history). I also think they look great, and would rather pay face value for them than $5-$12 for a NAGB chip or a nice looking chip from a random (to me) closed casino. Maybe I would change my mind though if you have any good suggestions for the $25/$100 chips?
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Sorry, I just meant that I was on a budget at one point in time. I eventually found myself spending a ton of money on chips that left me less than satisfied. I always recommend going after chips you want right from the get go.

Let me ponder the $25 amd $100 question and I will send suggestions tomorrow.

And I agree, if you want a live set, the Aria set is the way to go!!
 
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Seeking Alpha Social Club said:
Sorry, I just meant that I was on a budget at one point in time. I eventually found myself spending a ton of money on chips that left me less than satisfied. I always recommend going after chips you want right from the get go.

Let me ponder the $25 amd $100 question and I will send suggestions tomorrow.

And I agree, if you want a live set, the Aria set is the way to go!!
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You got me thinking hard about it and the Tropicana $25s and $100s might fit this Vegas themed mixed set well.
 
Splurge on the fracs. I’m not sure where you’re getting your $2, but that’s number was unrealistic a couple of years ago, for the colors you mention. If you’re willing to go with live $25s and $100s, you obviously have cash to spend; you’re just being choosey about how you spend it. So choose to spend a few more bucks on a rack of fracs.
 
khp said:
$0.25
  • Orange, yellow, or purple base colour
  • What are my options here for $2/chip or less?
  • Dont mind hot stamps
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Maybe only Roulette and Some other color Starburst can fit the $2/chip limitation

Yellow, Orange fracs will be closer to the $7-8 range rather than $2

khp said:
  • $25
    • Live Caesar’s palace or Wynn, leaning Caesar’s
    • Same exclusion list as above
    • If it’s over $3 a chip I rather get a live chip
  • $100
    • Live Wynn or Aria, leaning Aria
    • Same exclusion list as above
    • If it’s over $5 a chip I rather get a live chip
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Do take note that carrying or shipping Live Casino Chip to Singapore is equivalent to Cash, there may be tax implication
 
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Another thing to consider: go for a complete casino set instead of mixed. For me, there's just nothing like it, and fiddling with mixed sets never seems to end unless you absolutely nail it. A mixed set is great for getting a special rack/denom in play, but with your budget, a full casino set is attainable.

One drawback people seem to gloss over with live chips is Security. Coming up short a collectible chip at the end of the night hurts, but nothing like somebody sticky-fingering a barrel of live $100s. I know we all "completely trust our guys", but you'll still have to safeguard against it differently than you do custom ceramics.

All that to say, I do think you're seriously missing out not considering one of the nice leaded old-school casino sets you listed, but totally get why you're hesitant. Prices are crazy.

Good luck on your hunt!
 
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aggie said:
One drawback people seem to gloss over with live chips is Security.
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I was thinking this too. Not that I’d spend $10k on a NAGB set, but if I did, nobody would know what they’re “worth” except the people here at PCF.
But if I had $10k of live Aria chips in my house - I feel like the population of people who might want to break and enter just went way up.
 
The Aztar MO $25s that change hands quote a bit around here typically sell for $400 a rack. Leaded textured inlay THC awesomeness. I have never understood while other chips skyrocket these had been pretty steady. I would 100% use these in a mixed set myself and very resonable for what they are. BUT on your exclusion list.

Hundos can still be found Ambasador Plazas are running about $5.50 - $6 per chip. PCA primary $100s are even less I think still about $4 - $5 per chip. But on your exclusion list.

$5s are always the workhorse and lots of people hunting their workhorses in quantity so going for a live $5 might not be a terrible option, but other than Circus Circus who else is still running THCs that aren't beat to hell? But matching molds doesn't seem to be a concern

I get the whole I will mix it and be happy mentality. But I think if planning to lay out decent funds an atempt to match the chips may be worth while.

I would not over look the Boulder Station THC $1s (light blue) beautiful chips with an awesome feel and still running $250 a rack.

But then again you excluded most chips that change hands on a somewhat regular basis, it seems you would be happy with most live casino house molds so pretty much most of that is useless. Haha

The issue in today's time @upNdown is not "slpurging" for a rack of quarters. Its finding them. Some idiot named Ben in MD bought up most of the quarter market to build a mixed limit set. Lots of racks out there but most are not willing to let their fracs go. Even the old Horseshoes that used to go for $300 a rack are going up and up. Not enough original fracs to meet the demand of this hobby!
aggie said:
Another thing to consider: go for a complete casino set instead of mixed. For me, there's just nothing like it, and fiddling with mixed sets never seems to end unless you absolutely nail it. A mixed set is great for getting a special rack/denom in play, but with your budget, a full casino set is attainable.

One drawback people seem to gloss over with live chips is Security. Coming up short a collectible chip at the end of the night hurts, but nothing like somebody sticky-fingering a barrel of live $100s. I know we all "completely trust our guys", but you'll still have to safeguard against it differently than you do custom ceramics.

All that to say, I do think you're seriously missing out not considering one of the nice leaded old-school casino sets you listed, but totally get why you're hesitant. Prices are crazy.

Good luck on your hunt!
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I mean if you spent $100, it's played as $100,, what really are they getting other than the inconvenience of harvesting a replacement?

More to @upNdown point that most don't know what we have in our chips other than chippers. Most won't know that this is a $2k plus rack of chips (now) also nearly impossible to replace.
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But you put a rack of Aria $20s in play and next time they see them sitting on the shelf NOT in play... suddenly it looks tempting to grab that $2k rack off the shelf. I would hope none of us ever have those types in our games, but you never know. I have seen things "go missing" specifically chips at meet ups, so anything is possible.

Lots to consider on your first real set @khp and lots of good suggestions in your thread.

Again best of luck with the build and keep us informed.
 
aggie said:
Another thing to consider: go for a complete casino set instead of mixed. For me, there's just nothing like it, and fiddling with mixed sets never seems to end unless you absolutely nail it. A mixed set is great for getting a special rack/denom in play, but with your budget, a full casino set is attainable.

One drawback people seem to gloss over with live chips is Security. Coming up short a collectible chip at the end of the night hurts, but nothing like somebody sticky-fingering a barrel of live $100s. I know we all "completely trust our guys", but you'll still have to safeguard against it differently than you do custom ceramics.

All that to say, I do think you're seriously missing out not considering one of the nice leaded old-school casino sets you listed, but totally get why you're hesitant. Prices are crazy.

Good luck on your hunt!
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I’m also on the fence here - the pleasant uniformity of a matching set vs getting the best looking chip at the denomination and covering my bases in terms of sentimentality.

The fully matching options would probably exclude the Flamingo, as I read the condition of the $5s are awful and the $25+ chips aren’t pretty.

Regarding security - good point and another bonus to going for a Tropicana chip or what @Seeking Alpha Social Club might recommend.
 
aggie said:
Another thing to consider: go for a complete casino set instead of mixed. For me, there's just nothing like it, and fiddling with mixed sets never seems to end unless you absolutely nail it. A mixed set is great for getting a special rack/denom in play, but with your budget, a full casino set is attainable.

One drawback people seem to gloss over with live chips is Security. Coming up short a collectible chip at the end of the night hurts, but nothing like somebody sticky-fingering a barrel of live $100s. I know we all "completely trust our guys", but you'll still have to safeguard against it differently than you do custom ceramics.

All that to say, I do think you're seriously missing out not considering one of the nice leaded old-school casino sets you listed, but totally get why you're hesitant. Prices are crazy.

Good luck on your hunt!
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After looking at chip guide, I think if I were to do a matching casino set I would pick Caesars - great line up $1-$100 IMO. For mixed: Flamingo $1, Wynn $5, Caesar $25, Aria $100.

Both would absolutely scratch my clay set itch. The question is which one would be easier to acquire. I’m hoping the $5+ denominations I can just buy at the cage, and $1s should be doable by playing poker.

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@OfficerLovejoy For sure. Your and @horseshoez flamingo sets are a top 2 set for me on PCF, which are, in no particular order, @Eloe2000 Casa Mango Cash and your Flamingos.
 
Rhodeman77 said:
Best live $5 chip. It would be my go to for a live Vegas set.

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Stunning chip and absolutely a top choice. Unfortunately, @casinochipper22 has informed me that the condition on those are very poor
Eriks said:
This means mixed in terms of molds as well. Not an issue?
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When I first joined I wouldn’t have gone for a mixed set/mixed molds. Now, not an issue in the slightest. I don’t have any special attachment to hats and canes.
 

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